It’s beginning to feel a lot like the 1860s — and not just because Steven Spielberg’s Lincoln opened nationwide this past weekend. There is a secessionist movement afoot: hundreds of thousands of Americans from all 50 states have signed petitions to secede. Texas is in the lead — no great surprise, perhaps — with ABC reporting last week that the Lone Star State’s petition was the first to get more than 25,000 signatures. It now has more than 100,000. That 25,000 mark, which at least seven states have hit, is significant. The petitions were shrewdly placed on a White House website
Comments: Oh, we probably could, but it´s not going to happen. It´s fun to think about, however.
The goal really isn´t about secession,it´s about a protest of the Obamastyle ran government and the loss of the Constitution. People just don´t have a lot of options in protesting the government and people don´t care if they hold massive protests in the streets because they´re all white.
Obama´s plan was always to create a minority majority and he pulled it off by opening the borders and stopping deportations the past 4 years.According the republican pundits,politicians and advisers we should just jump on this illegal bandwagon instead of pushing for self deportation measures.
It´s a cop out and cowardice to say there´s too many to deport so let´s give them a welcome wagon instead. Stop the welfare to anchor baby mommas and watch how fast they flee back to their own country.
The whole anchor baby provision was really set a longtime ago to assure blacks got citizenship,it had nothing to do with outsiders plopping in here for welfare.
You may not see the states seceding, but you´re sure going to see a lot of people seceding from the economy. As we become more like Europe, one of the ways we´ll be copying them will be in tax evasion and an underground economy. People who feel cheated by the government will themselves start cheating the government. Watch for tax revenues to plummet even though they will be raising the rates.
#7 The frightful thought that came to mind is Courts. Obama now has the opportunity to stack the quourt with at least 3 Justices to assure a 5 justice liberal majority. Possibly 6 with the Chief Justice Roberts.
It may not secede, but its state Legislature (and only its state Legislature has the right to do it) can legally split the Lone Star state into five states, each with (most likely) two Republican US Senators.
The author infers from the back that our Constitution does not mention the right to secede, that States therefore do not have that right. That would be shocking news to the Founders. Until Andrew Jackson, most everyone in America assumed that States had the right to pull out. Even up until Lincoln declared War, most newspapers in the North were fine with the South seceding. That is, until they figured out that free trade ports in the new South would decimate trade at the tariff-hungry ports of the North.
#2 Is right on about the anchor babies. I live in a community north of Houston in which there are several homes owned by Mexicans and are used only for housing pregnant Mexicans who come here and have their babies. It´s probably a very profitable business. Just another way of destroying this once great country. We will end up with a citizenry that has no connection, no idea what it means to be an American and really doesn´t want to. They are just coming for the freebies period.
Could the thirteen original colonies "legally" secede from the British Empire? Nope. They did it anyway. We have an illegitimate and unlawful government that completely ignores the Constitution. Screw legal.
"If you want to use force against me, bring guns."
The Mafia and the government have something in common: If you try to quit the gang you will be destroyed. Lincoln proved it. To him, maintaining the union was more important than maintaining the liberty of the union. We see where that has gotten us. Thanks Abe. What this will hopefully be is a wake up call to the few politicians with a conscience and a true love of country, that something is very, very wrong.
Liberals think secession is preposterous, but it is a common event in history: Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, Roman Empire, India, Korea, Vietnam. Scotland wants their own Parliament. There are separatists movements in Tibet, Quebec, Basques in Spain, Belgium, Ireland, Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey. Cypress is divided. The U.S. had civil war. But the Liberals guffaw, and I despise them.
Actually yes..it can. And it can take everything in it within it´s original borders when Texas came into the Union....stick to what you know Adam instead of pontificating on what you have no clue about.
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St. Pitbull, 11/20/2012 10:08:47 AM (No. 9025318)
#6 - I´ve been saying the same thing. A couple of anecdotal items: 1. In a small independent restaurant, pay at the register with cash and watch how often the cash register drawer is opened instead of a sale rang up; 2. As someone in Finance at large corporations, much of the theft and pilferage that I noticed occurred was perpetrated by people who felt that they were not getting paid "fair" - and the person would come right out and say so.
The sates certainly have the right, legal and otherwise, to secede. In practice it would be difficult consdering how attached people (and states) are to the federal teat.
The Union knew it was legal. It´s why they never actually tried Jefferson Davis for treason. If the courts found him not guilty it would mean the federal government promulgated an illegal war that killed hundreds of thousands of people.
The constitution is the law of the land that supports the Declaration of Independence. The Declaration states that we have the right and the responsibility to throw off tyrannical government. Secession is one of the ways this can be accomplished. However, the remedy that will work better today, is to have State legislatures with the guts to stand up to DC. In their discussions this is one of the primary duties of State legislators, to stand in opposition to the over reach of the feds.
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