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Conservatives Must Forgo Secession and
Other Fantasies and Work Within GOP

Daily Beast, by Michael Medved

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Posted By:StormCnter, 11/20/2012 4:49:09 AM

Some fringe conservatives seem perversely determined to turn a stinging electoral defeat into an epic, sweeping disaster. That’s the deeper meaning of current talk about impeachment, secession, third parties, civil disobedience, and onrushing apocalypse. The Conservative Majority Fund has announced a new robocall campaign to build support for impeaching President Obama over mishandling of the affair in Benghazi, Libya, and alleged malfeasance on a host of other issues. Meanwhile, petitions demanding the secession of Texas, Alabama, and at least a half dozen other states have already gathered tens of thousands of signatures, while perennial presidential candidate Alan Keyes

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: mws50, 11/20/2012 5:35:43 AM     (No. 9024782)

What´s wrong with Medved? Why is he whining about conservatives wanting change from what we have now?

Does he not understand the federal government has ditched the Constitution for a socialistic form of government where "big government" takes care of its "special" citizens to the detriment of the producing citizens? Does he not see the revolution we may have to perform to change this un-American form of government? Did he not see how many ignorant voters decided they want their goodies, no matter how it hurt the USA?

We need a change we can believe in... NOW!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bkt23, 11/20/2012 6:18:15 AM     (No. 9024807)

No, they mustn´t. To heck with the GOP. I don´t compromise my principles for a party and I don´t toe a party line just to beat the other guy. If the GOP has abandoned the rule of law and our founding documents, it has become an irrelevant party at best or an enemy of the state at worst.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Janjan, 11/20/2012 6:21:13 AM     (No. 9024810)

Oh must we? We might be done working within the GOP.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Country Boy, 11/20/2012 6:42:29 AM     (No. 9024842)

What about the story that the GOP can´t challenge the DEMS on voter fraud?

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/

If this is true, the GOP is dead. Start new.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 11/20/2012 6:45:58 AM     (No. 9024848)

Medved belongs to the howler monkey segment of the GOP. That is what makes his screetching so annoying. What is that old saying? I didn´t leave the party, the party left me?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: noproblems, 11/20/2012 7:15:51 AM     (No. 9024889)

aint playing that game any more. the republican party has turned into the Whig Party.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Tucker, 11/20/2012 7:29:12 AM     (No. 9024910)

How come conservatives must always change or work with the others, but liberals are never, ever asked to do the same?
What? Double standard...

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Reply 8 - Posted by: dmjr, 11/20/2012 7:31:59 AM     (No. 9024913)

So getting into a lifeboat to avoid going down with the Titanic is a "fantasy?"

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Topic Thunder, 11/20/2012 7:32:56 AM     (No. 9024916)

Thanks Mike, I suppose we should just settle for giving Obama a "Golden Turkey Award".

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Spidey, 11/20/2012 7:42:47 AM     (No. 9024934)

In case anybody missed it. Big Sis is going to start monitoring Facebook for signs of bioterrorism or pandemics. I mean seriously how could a pandemic break out and people not knowing unless they saw it on facebook. And why would a bioterrorist announce his plans on FB? No,the real reason she´s going to monitor FB is to see if there´s an organized revolution being worked on. Even so,this is pretty silly considering FB is largely a left wing thing.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: dolphin, 11/20/2012 7:59:02 AM     (No. 9024976)

We just lost an election because they used the full force of the popular media to ridicule us and spread relentless vitriol about us and because they used voter fraud and bribes and because they silenced us and blackmailed us and sabotaged us and because they accused of us racism and every other vile thing they could think of and now we need to act better? Do I have that right?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: JAN, 11/20/2012 8:09:02 AM     (No. 9025006)

Medved, once a dem always a dem. Just can´t get away from his roots.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Bevan, 11/20/2012 8:15:30 AM     (No. 9025022)

So, to win future elections, conservatives have to bow to the Grand Old Panderers.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: paulfromTexas, 11/20/2012 8:18:04 AM     (No. 9025028)

Such erroous thinking.
We are under no such obligation.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: BarryNo, 11/20/2012 8:46:18 AM     (No. 9025091)

ichael, people see the looming financial disaster perpetuated by this maniac, and that he expects them to pay for.

Is it insane to want to escape a thief? Is it fantasizing to wish to be free? If so, our founders had similar dreams. If this gets more serious, I may move to a secessionist state - if only to live in a Free America.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Axeman, 11/20/2012 8:50:40 AM     (No. 9025105)

Michael "McCain is the only way to win" Medved has always been telling conservatives to shut up. He also thinks illegal alien amnesty will save the Repubs.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Judith, 11/20/2012 8:56:22 AM     (No. 9025124)

not going to happen. The leftist in the republican party have been nudging that party to the left for quite some time. With this loss and the intentions of the republican elite announced, they have made it clear that conservatives are not welcome in this party.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 11/20/2012 8:58:36 AM     (No. 9025137)

We must do both, and there is no reason why we can´t do both. We don´t need to choose one to the exclusion of the other.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: BruisedOrange, 11/20/2012 9:10:30 AM     (No. 9025171)

Save this article. There is wisdom here.

Previous posters notwithstanding, this is NOT another GOP insider "we must compromise to get back in" piece!

When we get past the anger stage of our grief (natural, and appropriate) and we´re ready to actually get back to WORK trying to save this country (because there is no other alternative except to camp out in one or another self-debilitating stage of the grief process) Medved is speaking truth.

Agreed: we despise the elitist, D.C. wing of the GOP, and we WILL NOT concede the Constitution or our God-given rights! So... now what? That´s where Medved is now, while most of us are still hurt, angry and bewildered.

When you´re ready to get back in the saddle, when you´re ready to posse-up again, when you´re ready to think clearly about what we can/must actually do to educate and win back the electorate to rational, conservative principles... go back and read Medved´s article again. He´s speaking wisdom. It´s easier to continue capturing the GOP and utilize it´s resources to educate the voting public than to start from scratch.

Sure, I love the idea of a new, Constitutional party--but that´d be like some B-17 bomber pilot flying over the just bombed, burning Pearl Harbor and telling his navigator to chart a course for Tokyo. Emotion and determination will not suspend the realities of logistics, time and distance.

Nor will it deflect the very real bullets of an enemy that´s playing for keeps.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Felixcat, 11/20/2012 9:13:19 AM     (No. 9025176)

# 11 - Bingo!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: stablemoney, 11/20/2012 9:52:35 AM     (No. 9025269)

There is a lot of discontent. We should just be content with the GOP. Be content with being robbed, incivilities and vulgarities thrown in your face by the Left, while the GOP always caves. Just live with it. Really?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: mickturn, 11/20/2012 10:01:00 AM     (No. 9025299)

Mikie, your costant wailing about how we all need to suck up to DIMS and Moderates gets us nowhere. You are truly a RINO!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Chief1942, 11/20/2012 5:51:07 PM     (No. 9026349)

Been there. Done that. It hasn´t worked in the past and it won´t work now. Simply time to get major aggressive and scare those pukes to thier core so they´ll change their socialist plans for this nation.

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