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How Many 2008 McCain Voters
Went Libertarian in 2012?

National Review Online, by Jim Geraghty

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Posted By:StormCnter, 11/19/2012 5:22:55 PM

Campaign Spot reader Michael writes in, having examined the claim of the missing Republican voters — the drop off from McCain’s 2008 total to Romney’s 2012. Immediately after the election, many were left incredulous in response to the apparent news that Romney received 3 million fewer votes than McCain did. As more and more states have counted their absentees and reported 100 percent of precincts, the numbers are less shocking. Michael points to Dave Leip’s Atlas of US Presidential elections and calculates the drop off is now only 479,000.* Most intriguingly, many of those missing

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It seems we have our own share of short-sighted voters.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: bkt23, 11/19/2012 5:40:55 PM     (No. 9024260)

I did.

If it´s short-sighted to embrace the rule of law and individual rights, color me short-sighted. And I´m proud to be so.

The truly short-sighted are those who voted for a gun-grabbing, big-government collectivist as well as those who voted for Obama.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: forward, 11/19/2012 5:49:56 PM     (No. 9024277)

I know a few in NY state who did. Of course this is a non-swing state, but still it does affect popular vote total.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Susannah, 11/19/2012 5:59:11 PM     (No. 9024292)

A vote for the libertarian was a vote for Obama. As Geraghty points out, the libertarian message isn´t going to be heard in Washington.

I´m pretty sure the students who voted for Johnson weren´t voting for smaller government but for the right to get baked legally.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Merrijane, 11/19/2012 6:14:22 PM     (No. 9024307)

I´ll color you short-sighted indeed. If you want to argue that voting libertarian was staying true to principle, then I´ll give you your point. But if you´re going to try to argue that voting libertarian did diddly squat to advance the libertarian cause ... well, let´s just say I need more convincing. However, it doesn´t look like libertarians crashed Romney. His own campaign did.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: kelty, 11/19/2012 6:25:05 PM     (No. 9024317)

No, it isn´t a vote for Obama. A libertarian or other third party vote, is a vote for your beliefs as they stand so you can get a proper, quality demographic read on the population - and the main parties can take that into account and start pandering to those segments in the next election.

Otherwise you end up with mathematical mediocrity.

Easy version:[www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo]

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Reply 6 - Posted by: chumley, 11/19/2012 6:42:49 PM     (No. 9024350)

To me, short sighted is voting for bad just to get rid of worse. Thats what got us into this mess in the first place. Both parties have done their level best to restrict our freedoms and loot our money. Romney was no different. He talked a good game toward the end, but his history of actions contradicted his words. Words from a politician mean nothing. Past behavior means something.

On an unrelated note...who decided what color the parties would be? It is far more appropriate for the Dems to be red.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 11/19/2012 6:44:50 PM     (No. 9024354)

Libertarians are idiots!!!!! They played a major part in killing this nation on 11-6-2012 by assuring that NØbama was re-elected.

There were two men running in this last election that had the chance to be president, NØbama and Romney. Unless you voted for Romeny, it was as good as voting for NØbama. Voting for a third-party candidate, or not voting, to make a ´´statement´´, simply made the statement that your ´´principals´´ were more important than the survival of this republic. Period!!!

This election was not about principals. It was about saving this nation from single-party Demon-RAT rule! We lost, and idiotic libertarians get a big chunk of the blame for that!!! Now, as soon as NØbama makes all 20,000,000+ illegals into citizens, and they all register and Demon-RATS, we will have that one-party rule for as long as it takes to make this once-great nation of freedom and liberty into a third-world cesspool.

Shove your principals, Libertarians. You blew it. And you won´t have another chance for those principals to mean spit again!!!!!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: yorkiemom, 11/19/2012 7:08:07 PM     (No. 9024391)

#4 is correct as usual. I saw and heard the moron Libertarians in my state.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: zoidberg, 11/19/2012 7:36:17 PM     (No. 9024434)

If I thought my vote would have counted for anything, I would have voted for Romney to get rid of Obama. But I live in Maryland.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: M Stuart, 11/19/2012 10:30:01 PM     (No. 9024595)

I know people who voted for Gary Johnson because they thought it was safe to make a protest vote.

Also the Ron Paul people need to thank their hero. Ron Paul could have done the decent thing and supported the party´s candidate. He and Ross Perot are two of a kind IMHO.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: steveW, 11/20/2012 1:11:30 AM     (No. 9024679)

I know libertarians who helped Obama get reelected by doing this. In my view, they intentionally helped Obama get reelected because their libertarianism leans more Left than Right, but they´d never ever admit this to anyone, including themselves.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: LanieLou, 11/20/2012 3:04:33 AM     (No. 9024710)

All this navel gazing is a waste of energy. If they don´t fix how elections are conducted in the US, we will never again have a real one.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Judith, 11/20/2012 8:03:16 AM     (No. 9024988)

Exactly what does the new and improved republican party have to offer? The recent party has offered us two rinos who really want to be dems. They even went so far as to offer a man who initiated the original obamacare, signed into law gay marriage and is at heart, pro-abortion. Now tell me, if that is not a dem, what is? And he could not be elected because? With the new ideas of the upcoming class of republicans, there is nothing left for a white right winger. One who believes in the U.S.A. Constitution, God, family, hard work, good education and being successful based on merit. Attacking someone like me is useless. YOU adapt and become the popular party (won´t happen, the dems have that niche). Don´t revile others for retaining their standards. Your new idols, dems, don´t do that.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: civilservant, 11/20/2012 8:56:25 AM     (No. 9025125)

To all who voted to retain their ´purity´, I hope it keeps you warm when the fit hits the shan.

You´re desire for ´purity´ stuck a stake in the heart of this country, and for that I wish you all suffer the same fate I have in mind for the Leftists, who also have done PRO-ACTIVE harm to this Country.

A pox on both your houses.



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Reply 15 - Posted by: Quaestio, 11/20/2012 1:11:50 PM     (No. 9025858)

Kudos #16. Hey, all you so-called libertarians who are so proud they voted for their principles, riddle me this. How did you vote for your principles by voting for a man who will ensure that this country becomes a socialist state? I guess this is a revelation, but we have a 2 party system, not a multi-party system. If you don´t like the way the Republican Party does things, then work within the system to make the Republican party reflect your principles. Start with local offices. Oh wait, that would take work, commitment, and more than just whining that Ayn Rand isn´t on the ticket. What you´ve done is simply hand this country to the leftists. I will make sure my children know that you are just as responsible for the coming end as the die-hard Marxists and ignorant leftists.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Bla Bla, 11/20/2012 1:34:28 PM     (No. 9025895)

What the post above me said.

Only it wasn´t just A vote, it was TWO votes!

When I was in line to vote, in walked my Democrat neighbors. Since our line wound down the hall & doubled back in the rec room, we stood facing each other for a few minutes. Loudly she said to me, "We´re just here to cancel out your votes. That´s the only reason we came."

"Isn´t America WONDERFUL????!!" I proclaimed, even louder.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Bla Bla, 11/20/2012 8:38:50 PM     (No. 9026651)

P.S. I bit my tongue first, because I really wanted to say, "What a coincidence! That´s why we´re here, too -- to cancel yours!"

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