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Maine’s striking Hostess
workers say company’s
collapse a strong
message of union resolve

Bangor Daily News [Maine], by Seth Koenig

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 11/17/2012 12:54:40 AM

BIDDEFORD, Maine — Labor leaders in Maine say the resilience of the Hostess workers on the picket line at the company’s Biddeford plant, which is in the process of being shut down after the company on Friday said it would liquidate the business, gives them inspiration in the face of what they believe have been ongoing efforts — by politicians, including Gov. Paul LePage, and corporate investors — to reduce union influence. Bakers’ union officials and their supporters say also that the demise

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Kendet1946, 11/17/2012 12:59:41 AM     (No. 9019828)

Truly delusional, so blind. How can they celebrate losing their livelihood?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Kendet1946, 11/17/2012 1:03:43 AM     (No. 9019831)

From reading another site, it seems that the true objective is for the state to take ownership, as in the former Soviet Union.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: coldoc, 11/17/2012 1:03:46 AM     (No. 9019832)

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Garage Logician, 11/17/2012 1:04:14 AM     (No. 9019833)

Morons.

These products will soon be produced in a right to work state.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Evocatus, 11/17/2012 1:05:53 AM     (No. 9019834)

This does not increase my support for unions one whit. In fact, I find this point of view to be vicious and pathetic at the same time.

The business units will be sold in whole or piecemeal and will be resurrected as a new company, probably without union representation.

If union workers worked as hard as they whined for pay and benefits, all would be well. So often, union workers use the union to do as little work as possible for as much compensation as possible.

The hell with them. Many of us will vote against their extortions at every opportunity.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: asu86pe, 11/17/2012 1:09:23 AM     (No. 9019838)

Unions: Proud to be the catalyst of a beggar nation.

Unions used to be concerned with the progress of the host company. Now their aim is collapse the host company.

What´s next - Fascism?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Gallo3, 11/17/2012 1:11:28 AM     (No. 9019840)

Unions= Cancer

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Reply 8 - Posted by: GoodGrief, 11/17/2012 1:15:07 AM     (No. 9019849)

#2 perfectly describes liberals.

Cartoonists should start depicting them with little plus signs for their eyes. An asterisk would carry the reader/viewer to #2´s post.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: Th-Gr-Sil-Majority, 11/17/2012 1:18:08 AM     (No. 9019854)

...ahhh, union resolve. Guess what...YOU´RE ALL OUT OF WORK!

...I have no fear that Twinkies and HO HO´s will find new life. For the workers, not so sure. When you read of how management wanted to strealine so work practices, not so out of line...

...there is no blaming Bush for the NEW 0bama economy...

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Reply 10 - Posted by: GoodGrief, 11/17/2012 1:18:24 AM     (No. 9019855)

So sorry, I miscued, That should have been #3.


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Reply 11 - Posted by: Japanorama, 11/17/2012 1:19:14 AM     (No. 9019856)

I believe the diagnosis here is cutting off one´s nose to spite one´s face.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: dvc, 11/17/2012 1:19:26 AM     (No. 9019857)

OK, so you destroy the company, put yourselves out of work and then you consider it to be a good thing.

And finally - blame it on managment and Romney.

Exhibit 246 in the "Liberalism is a mental disorder" case.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Kurto, 11/17/2012 1:25:38 AM     (No. 9019860)

These unionistas are stuck on stupid. They voted for 0boohoo and now they can get in his unemployment lines. They have proven only that they can shoot themselves in the head. Big accomplishment, not.

#2 Wonder is privately held = no SEC/government involvement. They have determined to sell off all of their assets, so state involvement will not happen. Other bloggers, elsewhere, are talking about an employee owned Wonder. That will not happen either. The employees did not cooperate with the company, and the company will not cooperate with the employees.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: annie xango, 11/17/2012 1:28:17 AM     (No. 9019862)

Hostess brand will be purchased..and one can assume that it will be in a right to work state.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Pinchem, 11/17/2012 1:59:16 AM     (No. 9019881)

#14...or China or Mexico.


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Reply 16 - Posted by: carolina blue, 11/17/2012 1:59:19 AM     (No. 9019882)

Come on down south we will welcome you with open arms. leave your obama phones up north tho......

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Reply 17 - Posted by: RochFireball, 11/17/2012 2:04:52 AM     (No. 9019885)

Well, you guys sure showed the company didn´t you. They went under and now you´re all fired!

It reminds me of the "I´m going to shoot the sheriff" moment in Blazing Saddles, only this time, the company let the sheriff shoot himself

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Reply 18 - Posted by: noproblems, 11/17/2012 2:08:01 AM     (No. 9019887)

Ya, and I am sure the steelworkers in Pittsburgh in the late 70´s and early 80´s said the same thing.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: flatwater, 11/17/2012 2:09:07 AM     (No. 9019890)

These union parasites infected their host and then killed it....

....and they´re proud of it.

God, how I hate you union filth, from the brainless thugs at Hostess to the vile pieces of excrement who comprise New York and New Jersey´s utility "workers."

Go straight to hell, all of you.


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Reply 20 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 11/17/2012 2:12:34 AM     (No. 9019894)

The jobless workers expect to be paid by the union because they are owed for destroying their employer.
Good luck there folks your union benefits will run out quickly when no dues are pouring into the coffer.
Some really must have thought the company didn´t dare shut down because the Union told them it couldn´t..

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Reply 21 - Posted by: snakeoil, 11/17/2012 2:22:58 AM     (No. 9019898)

Now they get unemployment compensation.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 11/17/2012 2:24:06 AM     (No. 9019899)

I was going to agree and question how people could throw their jobs and their very company away.

Oh, and then I realized, 1/2 this country wants to throw their country away. My bad.

You know who I feel sorry for? The small percentage of non-union conservatives that worked for that company, that just wanted to go to work and support their families.

The rest of you? I agree with the writer above. You can go to hell. You are everything wrong with the country, from your vote, your jobs, and your belief system. Have fun shopping at the Dollar Tree for your Christmas gifts this year, may your child be safe from the lead poisoning in that junk. May they be taken away by CPS because your house is freezing with no heat. They might have a chance with someone else.

Go freeze to death. You can always dream about the Obamas and the fine fare they eat. Oh, just remember, if you really get hungry you can swallow a handful of free birth control pills, I hear they contain a small amount of sucrose.

Don´t eat the yellow snow.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: CEP, 11/17/2012 2:34:32 AM     (No. 9019906)

So these union folk think they won by putting the company out of business?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: geekrunner, 11/17/2012 2:44:48 AM     (No. 9019910)

IIRC out of app. 18,000 Hostess employees, only 5000 were unionized. So the union screwed over 13,000 non-union people.



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Reply 25 - Posted by: Mike PHX, 11/17/2012 2:58:01 AM     (No. 9019913)

Duh...we got dem on da run...duh...we kin trust r leeders...duh...dey give us good wage....
Whut u mean, no show up Mundy? Mundy werkday...me need hours.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: iamtinman, 11/17/2012 3:07:45 AM     (No. 9019916)

As an ex Maine-er I can testify that they are difficult to teach.

They should have learned the dangers of unions after the disastrous results of the shoe business and the Bates Mills in Lewiston who moved lock stock and barrel to southern states leaving Saco and Lewiston without their largest industries and making Maine a welfare state whose biggest export is young people who can´t find work.

I loved that state. What´s been done to it is shameful!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: vwlarry, 11/17/2012 3:14:26 AM     (No. 9019919)

It´s good to know that the AFL-CIO will be there to help the thousands of Hostess workers who are now unemployed through this difficult time.

...Just kidding.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: liberalslovetaxes, 11/17/2012 3:36:53 AM     (No. 9019923)

They´ll gladly sit back and accept an unemployment check instead of go to work. Makes me think they didn´t work that hard when they were employed.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: janylou, 11/17/2012 3:51:53 AM     (No. 9019931)

How´s that whole resolve thing working out for you?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Trigger2, 11/17/2012 3:52:20 AM     (No. 9019932)

Well, that ´union resolve´ just got them on the unemployment roll and must mean that welfare for free is more lucrative than actually working for wages.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Spidey, 11/17/2012 4:32:09 AM     (No. 9019949)

If Twinkies become collector´s items,you could still eat one 20 years from now if your un short on food.

The reason these people are forced to lose their jobs is they don´t want a domino effect in other industries.A private company can´t loot the taxpayers unless of course you´re part of the UAW.
Unfortunately,a lot of non union folks are going to lose their job due to Obamacare.

This really isn´t any different than unions blocking walmarts from opening,even though they would give shoppers more choices and cheaper prices and give poor people jobs.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Edgelady, 11/17/2012 5:18:20 AM     (No. 9019961)

There is indeed two Americas.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: guamdivers, 11/17/2012 5:43:37 AM     (No. 9019977)

Hostess is John Galt...

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Reply 34 - Posted by: nina584, 11/17/2012 6:07:14 AM     (No. 9019986)

Hostess will re-emerge from bankruptcy stronger without the union and will restart operations with a more profitable outlook.now try to find employment for the high school drop out bakers will be interesting specially inthe NE.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Janjan, 11/17/2012 6:11:05 AM     (No. 9019988)

This is remarkable spin. Union officials beating their chests shouting ´We showed you´. Meanwhile, back in realityville, they didn´t show anybody anything except their ability and willingness to close a company and lose 18,000 jobs.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: pineledger, 11/17/2012 6:22:55 AM     (No. 9019994)

The fact is, the mere mention LePage´s name makes liberals´ heads explode. I love it.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Kansas Conservative, 11/17/2012 6:33:23 AM     (No. 9020010)

Atlas shrugged. Ayn Rand´s prophecies have come true. The union nazis and their Obama sympathizers can all go to hell. I could care less how many people lost their jobs over this. The trademarks, intellectual property, recipes, and brands will be sold to a new firm that will organize without union influence. The country will be better off in the long run. I absolutely despise and hate unions with a passion I normally reserve for al Qaeda and the Democrat party (i.e. - the Voter Fraud, Welfare Cheat, and Obamaphone Party).

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Judith, 11/17/2012 6:38:23 AM     (No. 9020016)

Destroy the business and collect the government handouts. Yeah, jindal and christie, I´m blaming Romney´s Bain and his statements. MORONS!

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Not gonna take it anymore, 11/17/2012 6:42:24 AM     (No. 9020020)

I have never liked Twinkies. Yuk!

And now, check the ingredients on those packages. They don´t even resemble the Twinkies of my childhood.

I did like the Devils food cupcakes and Snowballs. But I have no idea what they taste like now.

If the company sells its name and recipes will the new buyer use the actual ingredients that they used in the earlier part of the last century?

The products might actually have some taste again besides just sweet.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Grace Veritas, 11/17/2012 6:55:38 AM     (No. 9020043)

Now if they are still picketing outside the chainlink fence when the windows are busted out and the weeds have taken out the parking lot - now THAT will show some resolve!

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Reply 41 - Posted by: frenesi1, 11/17/2012 7:09:34 AM     (No. 9020062)

My husband´s cousin worked for Eastern Airlines and when it was on the verge of bankruptcy, the employees went on strike. I asked him how he could go on strike knowing that the strike could cause the airline to shut down and how does a man with two small children to support go out on strike.He couldn´t give me a good answer and by the time he decided to cross the picket line, the airline went under. He had to work two jobs after that and his wife had to go to work plus they got help from her father. And I had no sympathy for him at all.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: JimS, 11/17/2012 7:56:30 AM     (No. 9020138)

I guess Hostess was not "too big to fail" or there would have been a TARP loan waiting for them.
Guess the baker´s union doesn´t have the stroke that the UAW does.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: BirdsNest, 11/17/2012 7:57:10 AM     (No. 9020140)

It´´s likely that some company in Mexico will buy the company. Lots of cookies and candies are made in Mexico, some from old time brands. Labor is cheaper and they used real sugar long before the outcry in this country about HFCS.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: redmom, 11/17/2012 8:20:53 AM     (No. 9020173)

Some enterprising entrepreneur, who lives in a Right to Work state, should buy the recipes and as much equipment as possible from Hostess, and hire back all the non-union workers that are willing to move.

The unions are destroying our Country. Can we start blaming Zero, now, or is it still Bush´s fault? /s

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Reply 45 - Posted by: hamrman, 11/17/2012 8:41:32 AM     (No. 9020216)

Give me a break, you can put the inspiration spin on this if you want, however unions No Good!

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Reply 46 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 11/17/2012 8:43:52 AM     (No. 9020224)

The unions, the democrats and the mob, all rolled up together in one big festering boil on society´s backside...

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Reply 47 - Posted by: preciosodrogas, 11/17/2012 8:55:50 AM     (No. 9020253)

Black Knight Syndrome.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: LAW428, 11/17/2012 8:59:25 AM     (No. 9020267)

Are union workers required to take stupid pills? This is just bizarre reasoning.

Remember the ad jingle that said, "Look for the union label?" I think of that these days and wonder what kind of lazy, mediocre, chump made the item. Then I look for a replacement.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: tulipwood, 11/17/2012 9:07:52 AM     (No. 9020283)

Nothing like having ´strong resolve´ when you are unemployed.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: JAN, 11/17/2012 9:08:23 AM     (No. 9020286)

They all live in a yellow submarine.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: rustycfc, 11/17/2012 9:16:00 AM     (No. 9020297)

make the bread overseas like everything else
and ship it back here.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: comstock, 11/17/2012 9:30:14 AM     (No. 9020320)

The Union Thug Bosses are beating their chests, but do you think you´ll see them on the unemployment lines with the workers?

I didn´t think so.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: jerseyden, 11/17/2012 10:03:55 AM     (No. 9020398)

They were probably told by their union bosses not to worry because if the company does shut down they´ll be able to get one of the millions of jobs the "O" admin is going to create. Problem is the jobs won´t be created for another 3 plus years"just in time for next election".

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Reply 54 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 11/17/2012 10:20:23 AM     (No. 9020432)

I view unions as a necessary evil, especially in the skilled trades which we no longer teach in school in an effective manner. My objection to unions, is that like Major League Baseball, they are exempt from the Sherman Anti-trust Act.

A union is a business enterprise. It´s business is selling labor. The service that the union provides is screening, training and delivery of qualified workers. There should be no right to operate as a sole source of labor, ergo another union should be allowed to form and compete for contracts.

Bottom line in this mess is that the union thinks that they won, while their members will eventually discover that they lost.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 11/17/2012 10:44:59 AM     (No. 9020487)

The union´s useful idiots will soon figure out they were just sacrificial pawns. The union will drop them quickly now that they can´t pay their dues.

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Reply 56 - Posted by: LoneStarLarry, 11/17/2012 10:49:58 AM     (No. 9020496)

Jonestown, Maine. Enjoy the Kool-Aid!

#33 Give yourself a pat on the back for me.

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Reply 57 - Posted by: LanieLou, 11/17/2012 10:50:05 AM     (No. 9020497)

The strategery is to paint all businesses with the Bain/Romney greed brush. Then Obama will pick & choose which businesses he likes... and he´ll buy them with tax $$´s & gift them to the unions... just like GM!

I doubt Hostess will make the cut... it is sugar, after all. But if he does, no way will I eat a Gov´t Ho-Ho !

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Reply 58 - Posted by: stonepony, 11/17/2012 12:39:39 PM     (No. 9020700)

if you looked at the work rules that were in effect it is amazing Hostess lasted as long as it did.... having said this the demo union thugs cannot even eat cake....hope they all have mortgages, kids in school, car payments to government motors... but you can be sure that they will have their hands in the pockets of those hard working Americans who do pay taxes...

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Reply 59 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 11/17/2012 1:48:45 PM     (No. 9020793)

I think some "big labor" leaders don´t want their houses firebombed, so they´re sugar coating the loss.

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Reply 60 - Posted by: Screwgun, 11/17/2012 1:55:26 PM     (No. 9020804)

Typical union mentality. Now they can collect 99 weeks of unemployment benefits then go on disability. Democrat voters for life.

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Reply 61 - Posted by: franq, 11/17/2012 2:02:50 PM     (No. 9020823)

Dr. Dumka declares the operation a success.
The patient died.

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Reply 62 - Posted by: TinCan, 11/17/2012 6:32:38 PM     (No. 9021132)

Union smarts: picketing a closed plant.

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Reply 63 - Posted by: RussVet, 11/18/2012 6:08:26 AM     (No. 9021500)

Saw this same identical thing happen here years ago ... The union folded a huge manufacturing company with similiar tactics and the company sold the plant hardware to a company in Brazil and shipped it there... the union workers were still picketing an empty fenced in lot two years later ... To me not real bright

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Reply 64 - Posted by: Judith, 11/18/2012 7:46:09 AM     (No. 9021589)

Reading in the news yesterday, the article claimed that the teemsters union had someone run the figures and that the company was not lying, there was no money for these things if the company and jobs were to survive.
This comes straight from afl/cio bully boys. And, as I commented before, the workers at the ohio plant would rather collect unemployment than work.

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On the defensive about their prospects in the midterm elections this fall, congressional Democrats have spent all of April savaging the Republican budget proposal, decrying the Koch brothers and championing a series of bills meant to ingratiate themselves to struggling middle-class voters. In promoting legislation that would extend unemployment benefits, increase the minimum wage and promote equal pay for women, the Democrats have declared themselves the party that will ensure a “fair shot” for all. Republicans, they insist, are the party of special interests. It has been a classic Washington messaging campaign for these partisan

For Hillary Clinton and Boeing,
a beneficial relationship
Washington Post, by Rosalind S. Helderman    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 4/13/2014 10:13:05 PM     Post Reply
On a trip to Moscow early in her tenure as secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton played the role of international saleswoman, pressing Russian government officials to sign a multibillion-dollar deal to buy dozens of aircraft from Boeing. A month later, Clinton was in China, where she jubilantly announced that the aerospace giant would be writing a generous check to help resuscitate floundering U.S. efforts to host a pavilion at the upcoming World’s Fair. Boeing, she said, “has just agreed to double its contribution to $2 million.” Clinton did not point out that, to secure the donation, the State Department



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Washington Post, by Soroya Nadia McDonald    Original Article
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After presenting at the Academy Awards this year, Kim Novak didn’t want to leave her house. The Hitchcock screen siren, 81, was too humiliated to venture from her home near the Rogue River in Oregon. She read the cruel posts and Internet snark about her appearance, and it was just too much. “It got to me like it gets kids and teenagers,” she told the Associated Press. The “Vertigo” actress, considered one of the great beauties in her day, posted a note on her Facebook wall Thursday, acknowledging that she’d gotten fat injections in her face and addressing her halted

Analysis: Obama Celebrates
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Again Declares Debate ´Over´

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Townhall, by Guy Benson    Original Article
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The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
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The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
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It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
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A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
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To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
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Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
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First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.


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