Ten days after failing to sail into the White House, Mitt Romney is already being tossed overboard by his party. The former Massachusetts governor — who attracted $1 billion in funding and 59 million votes in his bid to unseat President Obama — has rapidly become persona non grata to a shellshocked Republican Party, which appears eager to map out its future without its 2012 nominee. Romney was by all accounts stunned at the scale of his Nov. 6 loss, dropping quickly from public view after delivering a short concession speech to a half-empty Boston arena. Then came a series
As decent and as admirable Mitt is, he ended up just like John McCain, a loser to a radical, deceitful and ineffective Obama. Romney vastly underestimated the assault that Obama would make on his character, his success and his views on how to restore growth. Mitt sent Palin into exile during the convention and kept GWB off the podium in a silly attempt not to have Obama link him to Bush. Finally, Mitt is a conservative in his values, but he is a moderate Democrat when it comes to politics. A restrained Dem could not beat the Gift Giver.
In this time and place, if you can´t win with someone as capable as Mitt, you´re never going to win. Maybe he should´ve gone more for electability in his running mate by selecting Rubio, although for actual governance Ryan was the better choice. The common pejorative here is that the GOP is only for old white males who´ll soon be a minority or gone, and exploiting this reverse racism and sexism was the key to the Democrat victory.
A lot of people could have written this, but coming from the WaPo, or the NYT for that matter, this just comes off as spiking the ball. What Dan Egghead didn´t get:
None of the conservative A team even ventured onto the field of play two years ago, which says a lot of the state of conservatism in the USA at the moment. Of the hearty souls that tried, most were quite adept in stepping into their own foibles and quickly eliminated. Romney was never a favorite and even into the primaries, there was much angst among the party faithful about Romney carrying the ticket. From this perspective, it´s not hard to see Romney loosing, but 0bama is such a pathetic being its hard imagining my 78 year-old mother loosing to him.
It is my feeling we conservatives absolutely and the country as a whole are tired of being lied to and treated as idiots (I choose my words carefully here) by our elected officials. The underlying feeling is that Romney had the look and feel of another 4 years of Bush.
Somewhere there has to be a straight talking, principle-based conservative articulate and artful at selling freedom and liberty with brass enough to stand up to the media and call them the cowards they are. There´s no sense in listening to what Romney did wrong in the campaign and election because what he did wrong started 20 years ago.
I still believe that he lost this due to vote fraud....that being said..I was talking with an friend the other day..I always thought he was a conservative etc. he is very involved in the Wounded Warrior project. you could have knocked me over with a feather when he said he was a moderate and he voted for Obama..did it to send a message..WTH for what?? if anything ,Mitt was a moderate. I just walked away from him and told him thanks for another 4 years...I am still in shock it doesn´t make any sense.I can see if he was a conservative and did it because Mitt was too moderate..I just do not get it...sigh...
The damage could have been done when the Tea Party was snubbed at the Republican Convention....and not fully made up by the selection of Paul Ryan.
That said, Republicans knew the stakes and a bunch of them decided that the upcoming Supreme Court appointments weren´t as important as their personal political positions. (I voted for Romney in order to protect the Supreme Court).
Stay-Home Republicans are the people who deserve the blame for the result. Romney is what he is...and within his philosophies he ran a hard-working, fine campaign. I developed a lot of respect for him during the campaign. There is no question but I wish we were looking forward to a Romney presidency.
Mitt Romney was as fine a man and candidate as we could have asked for. Obama and co would have demonized any other as well. The nation will spelt wish he had won. I thank him for his great effort, and Paul Ryan as well. Walk can pound sand if they think they can talk for our side; they have zero credibility.
Obama would have demolished any of the other potential candidates--and far worse than Romney. Can you imagine what they would have drug out on Newt and his princess wife? How they would have bloodied Santorum? How about Perry in three debates? And if you suppose a more conservative candidate would be ideal, just look at how effective Ron Paul´s candidacy turned out.
Romney lost due to vote fraud. Apparently there is a lawsuit in which the settlement prevents Republicans from challenging fraud if a minority might be implicated. So the Dems send bus loads of folks into swing states and nothing can be challenged. My blood is boiling.
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Ida Lil, 11/17/2012 2:29:07 AM (No. 9019900)
it´s too bad that you are so busy trashing Romney because he still would have been the man to act in setting up storage warehouses and giant food distribution efforts after the real Obama crash in a few months to a year. You can bet the hated Mormons will have sought his help and their people will survive. Perhaps you can recall the Hebrews and Joseph chapter. . Perhaps he does love the nation enough to ignore all the venom and act.
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Country Boy, 11/17/2012 2:29:39 AM (No. 9019902)
I do think the election fraud was massive. Many types of fraud, topped off with the voting machine software was hacked. Must have deleted many millions of Romney votes.
So I think that NOBODY could have beat obama. But I have to wonder if Newt at least would have demanded a recount (at least Ohio). Same as Allan West. Don´t think that Newt would go down without a peep.
As for the talking heads (e.g. Britt Hume and R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. in particular), these dirtbags can go suck eggs. When Newt was ahead, before the Iowa caucus, they were screaming like little girls that Mitt was the true champion. Mitt would take us across the finish line. Newt had to go. No interest in anything these guys have to say, ever again.
The tea party and uber conservative members of the Republican party have got to understand that the demographics have made them irrelevant.They are a dying breed but there is a way for the Republican party to be a power again....first, the next 4 years are going to be hell economically and second, Latinos are basically conservative and hard working and want to own their own businesses. I used to go to all the naturalization ceremonies in San Diego Ca. and there would always be a table full of democrats welcoming the new citizens and signing them up to vote, and no table full of republicans. We need to start convincing immigrants that we are the party with their best interests at heart, because it´s true. And it´s not just Latinos, those ceremonies are full of people from all over the world who were brave enough to come here and are not just looking for a handout. They want jobs, they want to start their own businesses and they do. We need to talk to them and convince them that the Republican Party is the way to the life they dreamed of. This is not rocket science.
The George Bush crowd did what it could to undermine Romney. Jeb Bush ran a shadow campaign all summer with his usual negativity and snide remarks. He ran a shadow convention in Tampa. Amazing for a guy who couldn´t even deliver the state of Florida to his brother in 2000. George Bush was quoted in Oct. 14 NY Mag saying he was critical of the Romney campaign and skeptical that he´d win. For the Bush crowd it isn´t enough to have destroyed the GOP, lifetimes of work and sacrifice, and put George Soros in the Oval Office. They´re far from done.
Romney and Bush were cut from the same cloth. Conservative when it was useful, progressive otherwise. I may be irrelevant, but I sleep well knowing I am not a sell out. #7 makes some excellent points. There is such a person in this country who can do all those things. She would have made an excellent president, and may still some day. I am absolutely disgusted with what the republican party did to Mrs. Palin, in favor of yet another progressive. That´s why I quit them and wont be back. I didn´t stay home, but I sure had to hold my nose tight.
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mary Ellen, 11/17/2012 4:30:00 AM (No. 9019947)
I won´t support a party who so easily and swiftly tosses the best of them out the door. America has gone off the moral cliff and the Democrats lead the way, Republicans are just followers. They won´t support the candidate they choose at their conventions and then when he loses they scream bloody murder and kick them out the door. A pox on both parties.
Actually, his comments in the spring, and now these, reinforce my thoughts that he is a very smart man. Too civilized to have been engaged in a fight with savages. That is not a racist term, it is what I consider the entire dem party to be.
The message sent, #9, was probably that your friend was jealous of Mitt Romney--his fine family, his youthful looks, his success, his honor and restraint. The politics of envy worked on O´s base but also on a wide swath of the electorate who were given permission by Axelrod´s relentless "hate that rich, uncaring Romney" message to vote with their resentment. O is nice looking, successful beyond all counting, and has an intact family too, but he is the Resenter in Chief, the stoker of the fires of envy, and, as such, was reelected by people voting for revenge, not love of country.
What #17 said. In the inner city 95 % plus black and Hispanic polls we needed to have a strong presence. Starting right now. I live in Cleveland in the inner city on the west side and I have minority friends who do work and talked to them constantly about Romney. They voted for him. Most republicans for whatever reason see the ´hood as a terrifying place which is wrong and we give all those polls away in urban areas of swing states where the election was "won". We also should have had attorneys in every poll which had 100% or greater turnout. Mitt Romney would have been a great president. We failed to promote him where it mattered.
The problem was not Mitt. The problem was and will continue to be the lapdog media. They think it´s their job to be the voice of each and every minority, and with 24/7 news they can simply outlast and outblast any conservative. Objectivity is passe. We have no hope UNTIL we can organize a national effort to boycott the media. STOP watching CNN, MSNBC and the alphabets. No viewers, bad ratings. Bad ratings, no sponsors. No sponsors, no shows. We MUST demand objective reporting.
Don´t believe the Wash. Post. They make up lies as they go along. Many, many folks are sad and still believe that Romney would have been a great, great president. Just because a few Repubs dump on him doesn´t make the majority of Romney voters agree. I DO NOT BELIEVE the liberal press. And it was definitely VOTER FRAUD! Too many things do not add up.
I also think we played too nice - why did Mitt not go after Obama like he did his opponents in the primaries? There was so much Obama could and should have been attacked on, on a daily basis, but it was never even brought up - his own words could have been used against him, like they did Romney´s, but again we did nothing.
I actually think the Republican party has been way too nice in every election. We are running against EVIL - and we need to use whatever it takes to fight EVIL.
I am thinking of changing my registration to the D party where I can vote in the D primaries and vote for the worst person running (of course on that side all choices would evil). My voting in the R primaries doesn´t ever seem to matter.
This loss was not Mitt Romney´s fault. To those republicans that threw their fits and didn´t vote for Romney SHAME ON YOU. Remember what the teaparty started out as? Taxed Enough Already party...remember that? Let´s get back to that and quit this stupid crap like putting up candidates that spew garbage like a woman´s body has the capability to not become pregnant if she is raped. PLEASE!
There is no doubt that massive Democratic vote fraud was a problem. If 243,000 vote in a district with 187,000 (etc.) registered voters, you have to suspect there is a problem. That fact that the turn out was so anti- Romney in 59 districts in Philadelphia and Ohio and various places, suggests that the vote fraud was not strictly localized. Does that make sense? Who could have orchestrated it? Those pesky Amish again?
But let´s put the blame where it belongs: stupid people who decry "Rino´s" (even now!), closet Mormon haters too embarrassed to admit it, stupid jerks who wanted to vote for Ron Paul, Santorum, or some other loser..., old ladies who sat home, sports page enthusiasts, college stduents who know about as little as anyone about government because they look at it from the small end of the horn.
We are beset by our dependence on people to think harder and better than they are able to. Romney was an outstabnding candidate. His selection was the result of a too-long process of winnowing out oddballs. He knows more about getting things done than the rest of the field, including Obama, combined. Shame on us.
Another instance of a nice guy finishing last. If Romney had been a Catholic or a Protestant he would probably be getting ready to move into the White House, as it is quite obvious that a lot of folks who should have voted Republican stayed at home instead, rather then cast a vote for a Mormon.
If Romney would have had enough steel in the spine to sit in the WH, he would now be getting to the bottom of Voter Fraud, just as West is doing in Florida. Voter fraud was rampant in all of the swing states-----have heard of no activity of voting machines in either the solid red or solid blue states having problems. I am still of the same opinion and have so stated over the last 4 years that voter fraud along with the MSM put him in the WH in the first place. The MSM reporting bogus polls to demoralize Republican voters. Tell the story enough and then one begins to believe it. Many, many of us held out nose to vote for Romney as a means to remove the Fraud in the WH.
If Romney was the right candidate, he would have won. Vote fraud and liberal media have been part of the electoral landscape my entire life. As for demographics, this same country sent the TEA party to Congress two years ago. Mitt Romney had three problems: 1. He ran a nasty primary and ran to the right of his conservative rivals to win it. This fractured the party and locked Romney into positions that cost him in the general. Before you start complaining about the Hispanic vote, remember that Mitt Romney attacked Perry and Gingrich for being soft on immigration. 2. Having positioned himself as a conservative to win the nomination, Romney was rhetorically inept at framing issues in conservative terms and defending conservative ideas. The only people who truly believed Romney was a "severe conservative" were credulous admirers and liberal opponents, all of which demobilized our base and mobilized theirs. Romney got all the conservative baggage and none of the benefit. 3. The Romney Campaign proved staggeringly inept at everything from basic messaging to electoral mechanics. Remember: Team Romney had Mitt chasing votes in Pennsylvania in the last week and left him sitting in a hotel room with an acceptance speech on election night.
We don´t elect nominees to give us excuses after they lose; we elect them to win. Mitt Romney lost. We need to deal with it and learn from it.
The problem will continue to be voter fraud. When they had the house and senate, Republicans could have written voter id laws. They could have gone with the purple finger for the hapless morons who vote, but can´t get an id! More dumbocrats please, we need their winnie-assed opinions like we need a traitor sabotaging the country.
Obviously it was the fault of billions of fraudulent votes, raging anti-Mormonism, treasonous stay homers, active sun flares on Narnia´s outer moons and the Lord Almighty who inflicted Hurricane Sandy! Certainly it had nothing to do w/Willard the Inevitable, whose decency, goodness, breeding, manners and schooling were a beacon of light. So let peace reign. Yeah right. Paranoia rules supreme.
Let´s face it, he never did better than 24% in the 2008 and 2012 primaries. He was the choice of the Bill Kristol/Karl Rove wing of the Republican Party and he did pick up more GOP base support than anyone would have imagined, just because the alternative was evil. However, the fact Romney never denounced that ´Romneycare´ travesty was enough to keep principled members away from him. Also, they approached their campaigns as analytically and with no humor. Reagan and GW Bush campaigned on their likability, whereas Romney and Ryan were hardly so inclined.
This betrayal by the republicans, and the attack by the rinos, should finally silence Romney and allow the overhaul of the republican party into a less efficient, liberal, democrat party. Really, this is the thinking from ivy league graduates?
RE: #25 "Most republicans for whatever reason see the ´hood as a terrifying place which is wrong"
I guess it depends on what your definition of "terrifying" is. I lived the first 11 years of my life in the Oak Cliff area of Dallas & hope to never live in such a place again. Burglars broke into my dad´s clinic regularly, & I vividly remember him answering the door to our home with his service revolver in hand when some crackhead (or whatever the cheap drug of choice was back then) was banging on it in the middle of the night. The experience was harrowing, but has served me well as I am much more attuned to danger than those who grew up in a safer environment.
Romney & Ryan did a great job...it´s the so called TV repubs pundits who hurt the party. The far left wing abccbsnbccnn WP, NY Times spent the last four years not reporting anything negative on the won. I will never be convinced Romney lost... look at Florida it´s Nov 18th the election was Nov 6th. they not have completed the count, and the military were never counted. I just wish the TV pundits who trash Romney would remember the 2010 sweep of the house by the tea party candidates. Romney would have made a great president, what a horrible loss for our country.
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