Let´s not mince words about this. Kansas State, the No. 1 college-football team in the land, lacks some qualities that most of us have come to Unlike Oregon, which has flashy uniforms and a thoroughly modern offense, or Notre Dame, which has history to burn, or Alabama, which has the best coach money can buy,(snip)"There is a military aspect to the team, in terms of discipline," said Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback, a former student body president at Kansas State. "And in an era of self-promotion, this team believes that the player next to you is more important than your own glory." Source name spelled out to suit site style
Comments: *Matthew Futterman and Kevin Helliker Kansas State this year....red state values,blue collar work ethic, and kids you would be proud to call your own. Hard work still does lead to great rewards.
Until yhis year many had never heard of Bill Snyder because that´s the way ESPN,ABC,FOX Sports wanted it. Kansas State is the *conservatives* of the college football world,hated by the media and the good old boys, ie,Oklahoma, Texas, Alabama,NotreDame, etal. They dont like the nobodies crashing their party. Now, they have to deal with us, at least for now.
Thanks for posting. I´m a big Snyder fan. Years ago Kansas State came out here to play in the Fiesta Bowl. One night a woman claimed there was an incident in one of the players rooms. The police filed no charges. Snyder did and suspended the players. I think he actually gave them community service when they returned home. The win against the Okies was big, a win in the title game would be one for the ages.
Don´t go overboard. Snyder remains unknown by many non-college football fans as he has remained there seemingly forever. He is respected and built the program up from nothing. There is dirt in his program like there is in all major college football programs.
DOn´t make this into politics, keep it about football.
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God of Irony, 11/16/2012 12:03:13 PM (No. 9018546)
#2, don´t lump Oklahoma in that group. There was never hatred for KSU there was only indiffernce. But when Bob Stoops came to OU he went out of his way to praise his former boss, Snyder. Now the challenge is to not be a flash in the pan.
Full disclosure, I am an MU Alumni so by definition the only thing good that ever came out of Kansas was I-70. In the course of my undergraduate tenure I was able to attend football games at all of the Big-8 Universities. I dreaded going to Oklahoma where the point spread was the temperature at game time. Nebraska was always tough and we went there expecting to fight hard and lose.
I went to 2 K-State Games (in Manhattan) as an undergrad along with 2 KU games in Lawrence. K-Staters are good people, who cheered for their team, and host a good game. MU won most of the contest back then, but they were always good games.
KU? Meh! I remember one game where the fans were so shocked that they were beating MU that they pulled the goal post out of the ground with time still left on the clock. The officials had to threaten a forfiet if the fans did not return the goal post so that MU could attempt a P.A.T.
Lawrence is not a friendly place. Give me Aggieville anyday.
Kansas State has been known to recruit players who were non-qualifiers in academics at other conference schools. But in comparison to the KSU basketball program, the football program is relatively clear pf major scandal recently.
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