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Topic: Oklahoma Doctors vs. Obamacare |
Oklahoma Doctors vs. Obamacare
Reason Magazine, by Jim Epstein
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Posted By:KarenJ1, 11/15/2012 10:16:12 PM
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| Three years ago, Dr. Keith Smith, co-founder and managing partner of the Surgery Center of Oklahoma, took an initiative that would only be considered radical in the health care industry: He posted online a list of prices for 112 common surgical procedures. The 51-year-old Smith, a self-described libertarian, and his business partner, Dr. Steve Lantier, founded the Surgery Center 15 years ago, after they became disillusioned with the way patients were treated at St. Anthony Hospital in Oklahoma City, where the two men worked as anesthesiologists. In 1997, Smith and Lantier bought the shell of a former
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Comments: This certainly is interesting and a positive article. Wouldn´t it be nice to see more of this. Fortunately, 0bamacare doesn´t impact this business, even though Obamacare prohibits doctors from starting their own hospitals or expanding the hospitals they already own. What a travesty 0bamacare is.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
curious1, 11/15/2012 10:38:35 PM (No. 9017389)
And maybe those prohibitions will be challenged in court if O´care isn´t defunded.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Knotwyrkin, 11/15/2012 10:39:15 PM (No. 9017391)
Questions for anyone considering a surgery at a similar hospital
1. If I have a heart attack during the surgery, do you have cardiologists here that will treat me, or will I be dumped in an ambulance and transferred to a hospital?
2. If I have a stroke during the surgery, do you have neurologists here that will treat me, or will I be dumped in an ambulance and transferred to a hospital?
3. If I have an anesthetic reaction and it turns into into malignant hyperthermia, do you have intensivists here that will treat me, or will I be dumped in an ambulance and transferred to a hospital?
4. I don´t have insurance. Will you perform my surgery and let me make a payment plan.
Overall, I don´t think so. These surgicenters can function for low overhead since they cherry-pick insured, low risk, insurance-covered patients and provide minimal care.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
nhchemist, 11/15/2012 10:40:24 PM (No. 9017394)
My local hospital charged so much for a colostomy that the doctors opened their own surgical center. The net result was that my insurance paid the whole boat if I went to the surgical center, but only 80% the "discounted" amount charged by the hospital. Guess where I went.
My GP does not accept Medicare patients because of the low payments. He has built a practice that allows patients the face time necessary to provide quality care. He also is not accepting new patients because he refuses to shortchange his current patients. He could make more income with more patients, but he prefers the lower stress and less government and insurance company interference in his practice.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Not Always Right, 11/15/2012 10:46:11 PM (No. 9017399)
On the other hand here are some questions for someone being treated at a hospital run under Obamacare:
1. Is your death panel up to date or are you working off of last year´s guidelines.
2. Are your unionized healthcare providers happy in the workplace or are they on a work slowdown?
3. Will my political affiliation be a determining factor in my medical care?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
bamapreacher, 11/15/2012 10:49:37 PM (No. 9017405)
If something like that happens to you in a hospital, #3, yes, the cardiologist will be right with you as soon as he treats the eleven poor illegals who say they are having chest pains, and the neurologist will be with you as soon as he treats the three people shot in the head at an urban party. They are keeping the anesthetists busy, too. One was just knifed because she didn´t seem to be moving fast enough to treat the man with a hangnail. Meanwhile the administrator is busy trying to figure out how to cut the doctor´s salaries to pay for all the mandated freebies.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
bamapreacher, 11/15/2012 10:50:07 PM (No. 9017406)
Sorry, #2.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
jntsrgn, 11/15/2012 10:58:39 PM (No. 9017425)
Dear #2,
So low risk patients should pay 5 times the market rate just because they are low risk? Whatever.
I offer a self pay price for hip and knee replacement that includes all physician fees, a 2 night stay AND the implant for $15,000. Yes, you can make payments. I worked it out with my hospital and at that price they still make a little money. Why should Blue Cross then pay $50,000?
Ignorant regulations, moronic policy, self-entitled patients, and the Government all provide the toxic mix that drives up prices.
My reimbursement has DROPPED every year for the last 7 years. It ain´t me causing the crazy prices.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
freightdog, 11/15/2012 11:01:33 PM (No. 9017435)
I wonder what percentage of the clinic´s patients are Canadian nationals (whose pain exceeds their ability to wait for a hip replacement)?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
oh-heck, 11/15/2012 11:24:04 PM (No. 9017464)
There were a lot of these kind of doctor owned hospitals in the formation process when Obamacare passed. My recollection is that something like 2000 plus facilities were scrapped because of the impossibility of making this approach fit with Obamacare.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
cyberc, 11/16/2012 6:11:21 AM (No. 9017695)
Dear # 7, Please explain in more depth. You seem to have the answer for many of us. thanks
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