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Thousands rally in Ireland after
Indian woman denied abortion dies

The Times of India, by Staff

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Posted By:crabam, 11/15/2012 8:32:26 AM

DUBLIN: Thousands of people rallied outside Ireland´s parliament on Wednesday to demand strict abortion rules be eased after a pregnant Indian woman repeatedly denied a termination died in an Irish hospital. Savita Halappanavar, 31, admitted to University Hospital Galway in the west of Ireland last month, died of septicaemia a week after miscarrying 17 weeks into her pregnancy. Her repeated requests for termination were rejected because of the presence of a foetal heartbeat, her husband told state broadcaster RTE.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Michaelus, 11/15/2012 8:45:59 AM     (No. 9015658)

Maybe if they kill a child now then Kali will bring the woman back to life.



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Reply 2 - Posted by: crabam, 11/15/2012 8:49:40 AM     (No. 9015664)

#1 If you don´t have something intelligent to say, please don´t waste the bandwidth on this site with your bigotry.

To save one, kill the other and ultimately kill both --- I guess that´s what God intended too.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 11/15/2012 8:50:00 AM     (No. 9015668)

I´ll bet there is more to this story that we will never find out.

She should have gotten on a plane and whipped over here to a Planned Parenthood office. "No problem, lady, hop up on the table. No, no, we don´t want to know why. That´s not important".

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Reply 4 - Posted by: artman1746, 11/15/2012 8:53:22 AM     (No. 9015672)

Liberals always take a single incident with a negative outcome to justify policies that do multiple times the damage to culture.

Yes, in isolated cases a misdiagnosis MAY result in the death of a mother ( oops, guess they are not a mother unless she actually wants the "baby", oops , guess its not a baby unless the "mother" wants the "baby"). As opposed to the FACT that a living fetus will be snuffed millions of times if laws are liberalized.

Of course this does not matter when it is a baby near term to these people who want their abortion of convenience.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: TexaTucky, 11/15/2012 8:54:03 AM     (No. 9015673)

#2, you do see the irony in what you just did, don´t you? Bandwidth waste and all?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: crabam, 11/15/2012 8:55:57 AM     (No. 9015679)

After reading posts #1 and #3, I am firmly convinced that this website is now frequented with racists and bigots. It used to be great website for thoughtful discussion. Anymore, any article that does not involve non-white prostestant males is automatically derided and suspect. Some people here hate Jews, Black, Hispanics, Females, Gays, Catholics, Mormons, .... basically anyone who does not look like them or believe in what they believe. Goodbye. Please continue your miserable isolated lives. The world is a far better place than for me to waste my time on this nonsense. I´ll find a real conservative website. I´m amazed that the moderators of Lucianne.com permit such postings.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: skedaddle, 11/15/2012 8:56:07 AM     (No. 9015680)

I´d say it´s more a cautionary tale of the evils of socialized medicine. In the U.S., at least for now, she could have went to a different hospital, doctor, city, etc. and found someone willing to take her symptoms seriously.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: TexaTucky, 11/15/2012 8:59:14 AM     (No. 9015692)

#1 and #3, I salute you. Well done.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: bluehouse, 11/15/2012 8:59:50 AM     (No. 9015693)

According to the article, the Irish supreme court had ruled 20 years ago that abortions to save the life of the mother were legal. Something else seems to be going on.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: kahunavol, 11/15/2012 9:03:22 AM     (No. 9015707)

Based on post #6 I would like to thank posters 1, 3, 4 and 5.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 11/15/2012 9:11:01 AM     (No. 9015728)

We pretty much have license to write what we want to as long as it is pertinent and no foul words. If I got all huffy about someone disagreeing with me, I would not be
offended. It happens, and I do have a comment pertaining to brit medicine, there is a reason that they come here for treatment. I had friends who were there and the wife needed surgery and she was horrified at the care she received.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: drive, 11/15/2012 9:15:43 AM     (No. 9015738)

The Catholic church permits abortions to save the life of the mother. there is much more to this story and it sounds as if the pro-choice crowd is exploiting what is probably bad medical system

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Reply 13 - Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth, 11/15/2012 9:17:38 AM     (No. 9015744)

Nice screed from #6. Looks to me as if someone is hypersensitive and defensive about abortion. Almost as though derogatory comments about those who seek abortion hit a little to close to home.

That´s OK. Despite being a White Protestant intolerant racist bigot, I did not cease and desist from dating the woman who is now my wife when she revealed to me that she had once had an abortion.

Once of the nicest things about this site is that it was always a place where playing the RACIST! BIGOT! HATER! card has always been viewed with disdain bordering on contempt, as #6 would have noticed had she or he actually been paying attention back in those halcyon days of yore.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Hermoine, 11/15/2012 9:18:04 AM     (No. 9015745)

My guess is that there is more to this story. I´m also wondering why she didn´t just pop over to England or Scotland, where, I do believe it´s legal? Could it be due to the NHS and how it works? Don´t know, just asking.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Whamdbambam, 11/15/2012 9:18:21 AM     (No. 9015747)

"After reading posts #1 and #3, I am firmly convinced that this website is now frequented with racists and bigots."

Don´t let the door hit ya where the Lord split ya.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bpl40, 11/15/2012 9:41:55 AM     (No. 9015809)

Hindu scriptures clearly say that taking a life where there is no other recourse is an act of non-violence. And flinching in the face of such duty sin. This is entirely a tragic affair. Unfortunately it will become more tragic as it gets used as an excuse to kill more healthy babies.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: earlybird, 11/15/2012 9:48:20 AM     (No. 9015829)

It´s probably a good idea to go and read the article which answers the questions asked on this thread and pretty thoroughly explains what happened here.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: mcparland, 11/15/2012 10:00:22 AM     (No. 9015846)

This is classic "progressive" strategy: work up faux outrage over one unfortunate case (e.g., pregnant woman dies of freak medical condition, daughter raped by a relative, etc.) to justify a million abortions per year.

There is nothing in this story that explains why this Indian woman wanted an abortion, why she miscarried, why she got septicemia afterwards, or why an abortion would have prevented her death. Do these protesters demonstrate every time a woman dies after getting a botched abortion in a Planned Parenthood clinic?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Rockdoc, 11/15/2012 10:05:34 AM     (No. 9015861)

By definition a miscariage is a dead fetus...normal pregnancy does not cause sepsis...she apparently just needed a D & C to evacuate the nonliving tissue...this was a case of malpractice, not denying abortion that would have saved a life

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Reply 20 - Posted by: mcparland, 11/15/2012 10:13:10 AM     (No. 9015884)

Hindus are against killing cows, but killing unborn humans is okay I guess.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Mike43, 11/15/2012 10:19:59 AM     (No. 9015904)

Septicema is the cause of death 7 days later. This is a case of medical malpractice. Septicima is usually easily treated with antibiotics.

It seems they should be protesting shoddy medical practice, not abortion policy.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Judith, 11/15/2012 10:41:10 AM     (No. 9015976)

The irish have a long history of being useful idiots.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 11/15/2012 10:51:35 AM     (No. 9016023)

A read of the article will reveal that the law says she could have had the abortion to save her life but there is still something in the constitution that says no. The two were never reconciled and the doctors are left in limbo.

The protests in Ireland are against the government, the bureaucracy that could allow this to happen again.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: rosefenn, 11/15/2012 10:51:59 AM     (No. 9016027)

If there was still a fetal heartbeat, then there was no miscarriage, at least not yet. The medical term would be "threatened AB" which indicates that a miscarriage is imminent or likely. There is also the medical term "missed AB" which means the fetus is dead but has not passed out of the mother´s body through the birth canal and perhaps a D&C needs to be performed to remove it and stop the bleeding. A miscarriage is called a "spontaneous AB" which means the pregnancy has ended unexpectedly and disastrously, but that no tissue has been retained in the uterus.

Without having more details about what actually happened in this instance, it is inflammatory and pointless to speculate. If there was still a fetal heartbeat, and the woman had septicemia as well, the question is, what in hell had gone on so that she ended up with speticemia? Had she tried to end the pregnancy herself? Did a back-street abortionist get his hands on her? Again, pointless to speculate without knowing more facts.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: oh-heck, 11/15/2012 11:27:12 AM     (No. 9016152)

Though not a doctor, I was puzzled by the septicema 7 days after a miscarriage. Why did she not go to the doctor immediately after the miscarriage?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Michaelus, 11/15/2012 11:59:24 AM     (No. 9016265)

Just to clarify: Hindus believe in Kali. There are at this moment Hindu cults that sacrifice children to Kali. Who are we to condemn other religions? Go read the Karpuradi-Stotra. Sit back and enjoy what happens when we abandon Christ.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: jlw509, 11/15/2012 5:15:46 PM     (No. 9016949)

I agree that there´s not enough information in the article to support anything but rashjudgment, and poorly-suported innuendoes.

In defense of Ireland´s pro-life policy: Ireland has the lowest maternal mortality rate of any country in the world.

Check it out:
http://tinyurl.com/ireland-maternal


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