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Time to Let the Country Crash?
American Thinker, by Ebben Raves

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Posted By:DW626, 11/15/2012 6:44:07 AM

"Let it crash!" "Give them what they want and they´ll see what happens!" "Surely, once the left´s programs are implemented and the economy crashes, people will come to their senses." Since the election, many on the right have echoed this meme. They are convinced that widespread poverty and lack of opportunity will bring a resurgence of the America many of them knew growing up. Grandma and Grandpa´s America. Perhaps these people forget that Roosevelt was re-elected three times during a depression that he helped prolong

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: planetgeo, 11/15/2012 6:58:56 AM     (No. 9015454)

No need to let it crash. Like the Titanic, the crash has already occurred, and though the band is still playing and people are still dancing, the ship is indeed going down. The only question is who´s going to survive.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Spidey, 11/15/2012 7:01:35 AM     (No. 9015460)

I agree,let it happen. the country can´t keep going on lines of credit to fund foolish programs and ideas.

Look at how this socialite and husband lived well beyond their means and are millions in the hole. This can be extrapolated to the country´s debt.Student loans,FHA loans and pensions are well over a trillion in debt each. How long with tax increases keep all the going.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: twinkle93, 11/15/2012 7:08:50 AM     (No. 9015467)

It is not "fair" to the American taxpayer to have to pay the President and the Senate when they have failed to pass a budget that is required by law.

Matter of fact, I would like to see a lawsuit claiming that the govt. can not collect taxes without a budget.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 11/15/2012 7:34:48 AM     (No. 9015500)

A crash is the only thing that will clarify everyone´s mind at the same time.

Let it come sooner rather than later, let´s get this over with so this country can right itself.

Selling apples on the corner will get everybody pulling in the same direction quicker than the back and forth political snipefest we have now.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Pilot222, 11/15/2012 7:41:30 AM     (No. 9015511)

This is how dictators take hold. This is exactly what Dumbo wants, A CRASH.. Riots, emergency tax increases, martial law. This is chapter 3 of Alinsky. In 3 weeks all your life savings will be gone. Think the absolute worst for the country , multiply by 3 and that is what Pelosi, Reid and Dumbo want. Be careful what you ask for!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: BarryNo, 11/15/2012 7:41:58 AM     (No. 9015512)

Why do you think China and Russia have kept their tyrannies for so long? A bankrupt nation is easier to manage for a dictatorship. America succeeded in the Revolution, in part because we were a rich nation with a lot of raw wealth. What is so dangerous about Obama, is that if he succeeds in destroying this wealth, an armed and angry citizenry alone will not overthrow him. He has squirreled away billions for his war chests leaving us holding the bag. The Feds have millions of rounds of ammo themselves, and our most loyal troops are overseas fighting in useless military operations wasting their strength and isolated from events in their homeland.

We can NOT wait for a financial crash to wake up a lax citizenry. Likely, any financial pain will be reported as Republican obstructionism, as it has in the past and that crowd of kool-aid drinkers will readily lap it up. What ever we do must be done, here and now with an eye for changing Education and how someone qualifies as a voter.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: idahospanky, 11/15/2012 7:51:10 AM     (No. 9015524)

I agree with the author. The populace feels entitled. Today´s entitled youth don´t want to work. They feel that the rich have an obligation to support the middle-class and the poor. If the country crashes, it will only fuel their argument for the government to save them from the evil rich right. But what they don´t realize is that the rich are the ones who make their miserable existence through their tax revenue. I read an article about the amount of revenue that the top 5% create and it was staggering. So what if the top 1% decide that they´re not going grow their companies to avoid paying higher taxes?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: dolphin, 11/15/2012 7:51:22 AM     (No. 9015526)

When the country crashes, and it will, it will be blamed on us regardless of what we´ve done. That is apparently what we´re here for. We are now the official villains.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: BarryNo, 11/15/2012 7:52:51 AM     (No. 9015532)

(Continued)

1. Education is number one. We must promote America and Civics from day one. We stopped this long implemented education because the Left complained it was ´indoctrination´. They then promptly stepped in and indoctrinated generations in their philosophy - which is the principle reason we are, where we are. Morality, responsibility, and success through hard work must be restored as gold standards of a renewed America.

2. I think no one who is accepting more from the government than they put in should be allowed to vote, unless they are in a high risk job - such as active military. You should only have a vote if you have skin in the game. If you fall into economic hardship, it would be a good reason to lift yourself up again, in order to have a say in your government.

3. We should have a requirement for a balanced budget, with taxes limited to a set percentage of the GDP. Government must stay within their means, and we would vote in part in how well they serve us. A greedy bunch that hordes the taxes for their private use wouldn´t last long.

4. We must define and refine what a Natural born citizen is. Regardless of what you think of the birther business, we need to get a handle on the ´Path to Citizenship´. Government Assistance should only be for U.S. citizens. Non-citizens should be legally permitted to seek help from private institutions, and work here, if they want, but only citizens should benefit from government aid in times of trouble. Only citizens should be permitted to vote or serve in government.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Wetlandz, 11/15/2012 8:00:39 AM     (No. 9015550)

A crash is not optimal as it is often replaced with something much much worse.

But yet it is coming anyway.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: disasterman, 11/15/2012 8:08:12 AM     (No. 9015569)

The crash will not convince the other half of the country that their choice was wrong. The Republicans could vote present for the next two years, let Pelosi, Reid and the won have it all and still get the blame because the MSM will make sure of it. They will rouse them up to the point of violence then all bets are off.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: idahospanky, 11/15/2012 8:12:17 AM     (No. 9015574)

The left rely on scare tactics to promote their agenda. They must have an evil villain for the government to slay. It´s just like breast cancer. Don´t misunderstand me. I think cancer is terrible for anyone to have to endure. I have lost many friends and family members to its effects. But you don´t see the same kind of support from the left for heart disease because heart disease is curable even though heart disease kills 10 times the number of people each year than breast cancer. We´re the disease.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: erv, 11/15/2012 8:33:43 AM     (No. 9015626)

When this country crashes look to the implementation of a world currency and a world government. This will be easier to bring about with a US economy in the tank. I beleive that this is the goal.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Axeman, 11/15/2012 9:05:50 AM     (No. 9015712)

It´s not the country that needs to crash, it´s the federal government that does. I know many will think it´s the same thing and that´s the big problem, maybe the biggest problem. Each state is like it´s own smaller country bound together by the federal gov´t. The states are comprised of smaller local districts. Many of these are doing just fine. If the feds were off their backs the country could recover quickly and reclaim it´s purpose. I think this is what Zipp0 stands in the way of happening.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: buckhorn_cortez, 11/15/2012 9:10:17 AM     (No. 9015726)

The GOP certainly has proven they don´t have a plan. So, if you´re expecting either the Democrats OR the Republicans to do something other than maintain THEIR favored status and taxpayer paid perks - you´re fooling yourself.

No more GOP for me - I´m changing my voter registration to Independent and don´t plan on voting straight Republican again. I´m joing the majority. I want my "free stuff" - and a mint julep...

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Reply 16 - Posted by: mickturn, 11/15/2012 10:12:26 AM     (No. 9015881)

Yea, how´s that working out for Greece?

Given all the forces against a real solution those in power are purposely crashing the system. They think they will be the ones to rebuild it...I think a revolution will result and those that caused this problem will be held to account just like in the French Revolution!

Get the baskets ready!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: oh-heck, 11/15/2012 11:56:12 AM     (No. 9016247)

Several points:

The crash was baked into the cake when the Bush tax rates were extended only to the end of this year. Same with Obama´s assorted tax credits and Payroll Tax Holiday. Same with the Sequester. This is what a Democrat President and Congress passed. Obama campaigned on the Clinton tax rates and that is what is currently on the books.

If the tax rates go up on everyone to Clinton levels, then a lot more people will be taxed than are now currently taxed. Only those who pay taxes worry about size of government.

Sequestration will be cooked into the baseline. No more 8% increases in spending declared to be cuts.

Let the Dems propose compromise. If they are as silly as Obama and Reid´s, laugh. And remind them they passed the current plan. Then let the time run out.

The GOP can´t win. The Dems can certainly lose. Let The People experience a Worker Paradise.

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