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Jindal: ‘Absolutely reject’ Romney’s
explanation of loss

Washington Examiner, by Byron York

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Posted By:garnet, 11/15/2012 6:37:27 AM

LAS VEGAS — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a possible Republican presidential contender in 2016, is leveling strong criticism at Mitt Romney’s theory of why President Obama won, and Romney lost, the presidential election. In a conference call with donors Wednesday, Romney said Obama won votes by offering enticing “gifts” to key Democratic voting groups like blacks, Hispanics, and the young. Subsidized health care, cheaper student loans, free contraceptives — those were all things Romney said Obama gave those constituencies in order to win support at the polls.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Rob_NC, 11/15/2012 6:48:30 AM     (No. 9015436)

..nothing here..move along....
..anybody know a patient teacher of Greek..I think I may need that....

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Reply 2 - Posted by: cartcart, 11/15/2012 6:49:50 AM     (No. 9015437)

Romney is half correct. What he said was true enough but he left out unions, pensions, food stamps, amnesty, suppression of religion, confiscation of guns and government largesse beyond what he described--including jobs in an expanded government and investment of tax dollars in losing enterprises. He offers substance where there is only debt.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Wetlandz, 11/15/2012 6:50:49 AM     (No. 9015438)

I absolutely disagree with Jindal here. Entitlements are breaking our backs out here. Until the bottom 50% start paying something into the system there is no hope, no jobs no growth. Also unions have become paid disciples of the democrats how can our volunteers compete with their ground game?

I also agree with Ryan, we need growth revenue not just higher taxes on the rich. I´m not rich and I can see his why can´t the rest of them? Revenge motivation works apparently.

I know he wants to be optimistic to run for future office. I don´t want to compromise facts and truth to win our elections either.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 11/15/2012 6:51:14 AM     (No. 9015440)

Jindal would be right if everyone wanted to pursue the American Dream. Unfortunately, the American Dream requires a lot of hard work and standing on one´s own two feet. It is not the easy way. In fact, many people think anyone who thinks it is wrong to accept taxpayer money to sit on the front porch is a fool.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 11/15/2012 6:51:48 AM     (No. 9015441)

The governor may have never heard of Philadelphia ´street money,´ which is used to get out the vote in that city. 59 districts in Philly in which Romney got ZERO votes on 6 November 2012. Come on, Jindal. Wake up! Smell the corruption.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: upstate54, 11/15/2012 6:54:39 AM     (No. 9015447)

"Gifts?" Try "buyouts."

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Hermoine, 11/15/2012 6:54:40 AM     (No. 9015448)

I like Bobby Jindal and I think he´s right about this...free stuff may have effected the usual suspects (those already solidly on the Democrat plantation), but it doesn´t explain the entire result of the election.

Much like real estate is about three things: location, location, location; well, winning elections is about three things: message, message, message.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: bpl40, 11/15/2012 7:04:27 AM     (No. 9015464)

IMO Gov Jindal is too smart and practical not to be aware of habitual moochers and street money and the deep rootedness of dependency under two generations of ´Rat rule. But..there is a way of saying these things if you want to win elections. Newt is also right in what he says but he hasn´t gone anywhere.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: iamtinman, 11/15/2012 7:12:02 AM     (No. 9015472)

Bobby Jindal is looking for higher office and can´t afford to antagonize that 47% but I´m not running for anything and I think Romney has it mostly right. Barack had something for everybody. For latinos he had immigration reform, for blacks he had ethnic identity, for women he had equal pay and freedom of choice, for college kids he had free education, and for seniors he had no changes in medicare. For asians I´m not sure what the attraction was but I don´t believe the GOP and Romney do either.

Throw in the 47 million on food stamps, the free phones, Obamacare for all, Beyonce and Jayzee, and the mob has their cake and circus.

You and I short term will pay the bill for all this but rest assured that before this bum has finished his second term, your childrens childrens children will inherit an unsustainable debt load, which being human, they will kick down the road also.

I mourn for America and for all the lives wasted to build this shining city on the hill only to see it destroyed by greed and envy.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: ebgodard, 11/15/2012 7:14:47 AM     (No. 9015477)

I´m over Bobby Jindal. He is dead wrong and Romney is right. I hate Republicans who sing a different tune after they were huge supporters. We didn´t deserve Romney. Time will prove that Romny was right. Oh and all the cheating at that polls helped as well. We are fast becoming a 3rd world country and we let Obama do it.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Spidey, 11/15/2012 7:14:54 AM     (No. 9015478)

I agree with romney and Jindal to a degree here,I´m just sorry they´re busting each others chops instead of Obama. If nothing else the GOP needs to start standing for the rule of law again,that would get some hispanics back. They weren´t all bought off with amnesty.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Malia2012, 11/15/2012 7:15:06 AM     (No. 9015479)

I like Bobby Jindal too, but when he "absolutely rejects" what Mitt Romney said about entitlements, IMHO, he is wrong and proves he needs more life-experience to run for President. He sounds like a lot of Republicans who don´t want to offend the takers and people looking for freebies from the Government so they blame circumstances or the GOP candidate. And like other Republicans, he does not even mention the "irregularities" (aka THEFT) that were common during this and past elections.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: radvet1, 11/15/2012 7:33:54 AM     (No. 9015497)

As a veterinarian, I work with the public. I see people making really bad choices about their money. Even though their situation is dire, and many don´t receive much from the government, they still see Obama as making it better. They don´t see at all how their own decisions keep them down. They just think someone like Obama is going to make life easier for them. One lady was in yesterday. She bought a house for $5000 and a used furnace.Furnace didn´t work - no heat for her and her handicapped daughter. Bill for dog - $271. Obama bumper sticker.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: rmagnus, 11/15/2012 7:58:04 AM     (No. 9015544)

Tell a drug addict he will be better off in the long run if he quits shooting up and see what he does.

A majority of our country is addicted to government.

Most addicts don´t change until they sink so low that they´re staring death in the eye.

I´m afraid that´s what will have to happen to our country before it changes.



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Reply 15 - Posted by: wordstress, 11/15/2012 8:02:19 AM     (No. 9015555)

Well, I reject Jindal´s rejection of Romney´s explanation. Romney was right.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Grace Veritas, 11/15/2012 8:03:45 AM     (No. 9015563)

Romney is right on substance, and Jindal´s reaction is along the lines of, "We can´t afford to talk about the takers like that - we need their votes!"

On the marketing side, Jindal is right. We need to call people UP to conservatism, UP from dependency, UP to nobility and citizenship. An inspirational pitch probably shouldn´t start with calling the target audience bought-and-paid-for whores.

The establishment republicans are eager to cave on principles they gave up on years ago and become a "We´ve got snacks, too" party. "We´re not as bad as you think" - how´s that for a winning slogan?

Positive, challenging, inspirational, patriotism versus pessimistic, angry, resentful dependence and victimhood - that´s the battle we´ll frame if we are true to conservative principle. It´s an uphill battle, but even if we lose altogether, we will want to have been on the side of the angels.

Romney right on principle. Jindal right on tone.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: disasterman, 11/15/2012 8:15:51 AM     (No. 9015580)

Romney was only half right. It was more like 50% freebies, 60% fraud. If my math doesn´t seem correct to you, don´t vote for me to be County Supervisor of Elections.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: ebuilder, 11/15/2012 8:19:26 AM     (No. 9015589)

If the reality is that illegals and the non assimilated and homosexual stoners are more important voters than American entrepeneurs, it is over. Mitt failed to sound a clear alarm. He failed to take on the press, or debate selection. He failed to trot out Palin to cement his base. He failed to imagine a strategy to win over 47% of voters. In Mitt´s words, going conservative was the equivalent of setting his hair on fire. As a Mormon he could not nuance that our future hangs on receiving the curse of one who cursed Israel. As the father of socialized medicine in Massachusetts, he was unable to explain how Obamacare kills the capitalist job expander. He is more interested today in giving business tips to Obama, for a fee probably, than to check on the fact that democrats electronically control the voting outcomes whereever they need to.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: slipstik, 11/15/2012 8:19:58 AM     (No. 9015592)

The republic is lost, face it. This government is emulating Greece, Spain, and all the other failed Eurogovs. They´re just a little further down the road than we are...yet. this country will NOT survive another 4 years. If we are all still alive in 4 years, we won´t recognize where we live. We are now controlled by the massive group of takers, who gladly eat their children to keep their benefit train on the tracks. There is no hope, unless there´s a truly massive reboot which throws us all into survival mode in an instant.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 11/15/2012 8:25:35 AM     (No. 9015602)

It´s way too early to know exactly why the election happened the way it did. Neither one knows but may or may not be partially right. Time will tell for those of us whose heads are not in the sand. That would not be the MSM, the liberals or the democrats, by the way.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: civilservant, 11/15/2012 8:26:26 AM     (No. 9015606)

#20, I still feel you are a johnny come lately troll but for every one of YOUR stories, I can tell you a HUNDRED about running back healthy ´urban´(Black, white yellow brown) residents on SSDI, scamming it dry.

Sorry, NORMAL people realize that YOUR case is exempted but the fraudulent are NOT.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Judith, 11/15/2012 8:48:27 AM     (No. 9015662)

Jindal is disconnected from reality. When you overlay the maps of the heavy turnout for obama OVER the map of high unemployment (which equals heavy entitlement areas), voila, you have a match.
I guess jindal has watched a scam in action and has decided to duplicate it in his quest for the whitehouse.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: LOL Thomas, 11/15/2012 9:18:28 AM     (No. 9015748)

Jindal wants 100% of the votes?

When Democrats force Republican election inspectors out of the polling precincts?

When warehouses full of ballots aren’t discovered until after the election?

When the military are prevented from obtaining ballots?

When an airplane bulging with military ballots crashes? What a coincidence, huh?

When SIGNIFICANTLY more Democrats vote than are registered?  Like in Ohio, Colorado, Michigan, et al., and the bloated count in St. Lucie County, Florida?  I invite you to look at that county’s vote data, Governor Jindal.  Here it all is, all 94 polling precincts:

http://tinyurl.com/akr7v77


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Reply 24 - Posted by: altoona, 11/15/2012 9:21:55 AM     (No. 9015754)

To add to what #13 said, there is indeed a general perception in the public--whether they are on government support or not--that Obama is for the little guy and Mitt was not. I still blame the media (news, entertainment, sports) more than anything else for supporting in every possible way the toxic and false message of the O campaign. I would think more of Jindal if he were to call out the media.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Coy860, 11/15/2012 9:30:42 AM     (No. 9015778)

Obama won the election by using Alinsky´s Rules for Radicals. He played Americans right out of the book.
The victim base, class warfare..pretending to be one of the middle class and thus, feeling their pain.
The suckers fell for it hook, line and stinker.
America has been too lenient with invaders from Mexico, while allowing immigration from other countries to very small numbers. People who may vote Republican are NOT encouraged to come to America.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: crill, 11/15/2012 9:30:49 AM     (No. 9015779)

First Christie, and now Jindal. The candidate selection list for 2016 is narrowing...

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Reply 27 - Posted by: CEP, 11/15/2012 9:31:19 AM     (No. 9015780)

#20, nobody faults those who need the help, that is what welfare is about, those who need he helping hand up. It is the able bodied, the woman who has 6 kids with differnt men, the person who scams the system for disability etc. that is what Romney meant and there are an awful lot of deadbeats not paying their fair share, they voted for Obama because why work, they can say i am poor and downtrodden i have no pride, let those rich people pay let me demonize those rich people and nobody will say a thing about me just those rich people are evil.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Crosscut, 11/15/2012 9:32:47 AM     (No. 9015783)

Forget it, Jindal. Romney lost because he is white.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: god of irony, 11/15/2012 9:40:33 AM     (No. 9015802)

Big talk from the sidelines.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Pepper Tree, 11/15/2012 9:43:49 AM     (No. 9015818)

My initial reaction to Jindal was that he´s a smarmy opportunist. He says safely correct things in measured tones so as not to be offensive to anyone.

There is no doubt he´s real smart, but rather than get a real job, he gravitated early to politics. Not to my mind a good indicator of strong character or as Sarah Palin puts it, a servant´s heart. Marco Rubio fits the same mold.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: FunOne, 11/15/2012 9:44:34 AM     (No. 9015819)

Sorry Bobby, but the problem comes down to totally different value systems.

You cannot get people interested in being responsible for a multi-trillion dollar debt when they buy a vehicle with the understanding that it will probably be repossessed before it is paid off.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: LadyVet, 11/15/2012 9:53:11 AM     (No. 9015835)

Jindal has dealt with the Katrina types who were too stupid to evacuate a city below sea level with Force 5 hurricane headed their way. He knows the mentality.

Of course, he is "unexciting" so he´ll never be chosen as a candidate. Competence counts little when you get to Iowa. I´m really beginning to detest that state, taken as a whole.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: southernboy, 11/15/2012 9:55:51 AM     (No. 9015839)

@#29 "...#20, nobody faults those who need the help, that is what welfare is about, those who need he helping hand up…."
The trick is getting the people like #20, who are legitimate, to condemn the many who are not. In their efforts to justify their own needs, they defend the welfare cheats, the lazy, the takers, on the grounds that ´you just don´t know them.´ I know some of them. They are the ones with full shopping carts on the days the food stamp account is re-filled. They are the ones loading these same groceries into $600 jacked-up Cadillacs with $3000 rims while talking endlessly on cell-phones. They are the ones filling the emergency rooms with the smell of unchanged diapers while waiting for a doctor to prescribe cough syrup to their kids with the sniffles. To know them well is not to denigrate the ones who legitimately need help from Society. We can tell the difference. #20 should not be defensive about his own situation….and should not defend those undeserving of defense.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 11/15/2012 10:17:52 AM     (No. 9015897)

"If we’re going to continue to be a competitive party and win elections on the national stage and continue to fight for our conservative principles, we need two messages to get out loudly and clearly. One, we are fighting for 100 percent of the votes, and secondly, our policies benefit every American who wants to pursue the American dream, period." - Article

All true, but those wanting free stuff from the Government aren´t interested in principles, let alone conservative principles. Three of our neighbors voted for 0bama because they got their "0bama mortgages". All three are massively underwater. A condition for qualifying was to stop paying their previous mortgage for several months. This is the level of dishonesty we´re dealing with. They are nothing but thieves.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: arkfamily, 11/15/2012 10:26:22 AM     (No. 9015922)

#20, I did have a family member who was on disability but is no longer because she died. My mom. I want to tell you about a woman that tried to work after having brain surgery but could no longer do so. She died of brain cancer but I have to tell you she never felt sorry for herself. She had guts and never worried about having to work too much.

I realize that there are people who can´t work. I am tired of the people who can but won´t. Big difference. I don´t want to be lectured on how bigoted or racist or whatever because a person doesn´t know what is in my heart.

I reject what Bobby Jindal says. There are a lot more people who could be working but won´t. It doesn´t change how I feel. I have the spirit my mom did. I´ll work until I can´t.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: tisHimself, 11/15/2012 10:36:51 AM     (No. 9015961)

"One, we have got to stop dividing American voters. We need to go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent — we need to go after every single vote. And second, we need to continue to show that our policies help every voter out there achieve the American dream, which is to be in the middle class, which is to be able to give their children the opportunity to get a great education, which is for their children to have even better-paying jobs than their parents.”

We put for the wrong candidate to advocate free markets to the middle class. Jindal gets it.


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Reply 37 - Posted by: mickturn, 11/15/2012 10:50:38 AM     (No. 9016019)

Jindal is right but one point is that the ´gifts´ were definately a turning point. When you have useful idiots getting free stuff the term idiot and free combine in their small brains and it turns into love for the gift giver. It´s really that simple. No amount of logic or other inducements can interrupt the idiot to gift to free linkages. Don´t bother to try.

It´s like giving a monkey a bananna...pretty soon he gets really peaved when the bananna is even 5 minutes late in delivery.

I had a friend who got a job with the postal dept. He told me that welfare reciepients would be waiting at the mail box for their check and if he didn´t have it they got really mad, cursed him and some even tried to hit him. So it goes with Obama supporters, nothing change behavior to negative quicker than ´breaking promises´, and that is exactly what the Dims use against all of us!

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Reply 38 - Posted by: fritzilou, 11/15/2012 12:11:16 PM     (No. 9016309)

Jindal just doesn´t want to alienate his poor constituents, so he threw our candidate under the bus. In doing so, he affirmed their opinion that Romney doesn´t give a darn about the poor. This is not the behavior of a man who I thought was qualified to be president as well. Jindal, by speaking like this, has shown me he is a panderer too; not a good thing. Jindal, please just tell the truth without attacking a fellow Republican who had good intentions for the country.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Muguy, 11/15/2012 7:18:17 PM     (No. 9017114)

Sadly, I wish Jindal was correct, but he is not. It would be great if all was honorable and honest in this world, but let´s face it-- the moochers won.

Some are in dire circumstances, but unless we re-write the laws, they can never earn their way out of welfare because theY will "make too much money" to get out of its restrictions.

To get off the dole, is hard, next to impossible without a great deal of sacrifice, and a willingness to do so.

The Obamaphone lady won--her and those like her are too ignorant and uneducated to do much else but be victims who are preyed upon by unscrupulous politicians.

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Former Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kan.) said a number of junior GOP senators considering a presidential run in 2016 do not yet have the experience — specifically naming Rand Paul (Ky.), Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Ted Cruz (Texas). The former 1996 GOP presidential candidate sounded particularly skeptical of Cruz in an interview this week with The Wichita Eagle. "A number of the younger members, first-termers like Rand Paul, Rubio and that extreme-right-wing guy, Ted Cruz — all running for president now. I don´t think they´ve got enough experience yet," Dole said. The 90-year-old former senator said, however, his main concern about 2016 is living

Jeb Bush is your only chance
against Hillary, Republicans

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Hot Air, by Bob Schrum    Original Article
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If Jeb reaches for the nomination, there will be a titanic battle between the party establishment and the Tea Party. Steve Schmidt, McCain’s strategist in 2008, insists that in the end Republicans usually settle on the most electable candidate. To get by, this Bush may be forced to trim his positions, although the cautionary tale of Romney suggests that he would have to tack artfully and carefully for the sake of the general election. Certainly he will have the resources to outlast, discredit, and disqualify his rivals.

Michelle Obama:
´splurging is the key to life´

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Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
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Washington - Michelle Obama said "splurging is the key to life" if you regularly eat right and stay active. Her biggest guilty pleasure: French fries. "How would you appreciate vegetables if you never had chocolate?" she asked. "You couldn´t live without a little chocolate, a little French fries." The first lady took questions from children reporters Monday after appearing at the White House Easter Egg Roll. She told the children that if they eat right the majority of the time, then a splurge or snack is not going to hurt them. "I still splurge when I can, but that's why I try to exercise almost every day," she said.

Fraud runs rampant in Census Bureau
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New York Post, by John Crudele    Original Article
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There’s a pattern of falsifying statistics throughout the entire Census Bureau. And anyone who attempts to blow the whistle on the fraud is either retaliated against or ignored, according to two new sources who have experienced the process firsthand. As I’ve been writing for more than six months, the Census Bureau office in Philadelphia uncovered a case of fraud in 2010, did nothing about it and allowed the practice to continue. In that instance, a data collector named Julius Buckmon was faking reports that went into the nation’s all-important jobless tally and consumer-inflation survey. Because the Census Bureau’s surveys are scientific — meaning

Benghazi attack could have been prevented if
US hadn´t ´switched sides in the War on Terror´
and allowed $500 MILLION of weapons to reach
al-Qaeda militants, reveals damning report

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
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The Citizens Commission on Benghazi, a self-selected group of former top military officers, CIA insiders and think-tankers, declared Tuesday in Washington that a seven-month review of the deadly 2012 terrorist attack has determined that it could have been prevented – if the U.S. hadn´t been helping to arm al-Qaeda militias throughout Libya a year earlier. ´The United States switched sides in the war on terror with what we did in Libya, knowingly facilitating the provision of weapons to known al-Qaeda militias and figures,´ Clare Lopez, a member of the commission and a former CIA officer, told MailOnline. She blamed the Obama administration

Professor: ‘Colleges Will Start Closing Up’ if
‘Racist, Misogynist, Money-Grubbing’ GOP Wins

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National Review Online, by Andrew Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/22/2014 4:42:50 PM     Post Reply
New audio reveals an Eastern Connecticut State University professor warning that Republicans will “want things to go back — not to to 1955, but to 1855? if they win control of Congress in November. Republican victories could also put him out of a job, he cautioned. “We will live in a very, very, very different kind of country if that happens,” Professor Brent Terry told students in his Introduction to Creative Writing course, according to audio obtained by Campus Reform. “I mean, colleges will start closing up if these people have their way.” Over the course of his rant, Terry characterized conservatives


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