Hispanics vote dem for the same reason blacks and other minorities do.They want free things.I don´t think legal immigrants give a rats behind about immigration.Rush discussed this at length the other day.

I had this debate today. I pointed out that amnesty has never helped a GOP candidate. In Fact, the case could be made that amnesty for illegals will guarantee that minority groups will never vote republican again. I was told the GOP should just abandon social issues. I simply replied that is exactly what the Democrats want us to do, which means the GOP should engage on social issues across the board. With Lawyers. In Court. Game On.

I agree that amnesty is not the big issue with legal Hispanic voters. But, they care very much that our words seem to demean and disrespect them. We have to do a better job of showing that our policies are good for them.

#1 I disagree with your citing that the Hispanic people are people who belong to the "gimmee" types. I grew up with them in California, I studied with them, worked beside them, ran track and crosscountry with them, ate at their tables, prayed with them in church...you get the picture. They are angry at the "Pendejos" who ghetto´d them. Yes english should be the national language but all my friends spoke english well. If you have ever been in the Netherlands, most of all people ...children too, speak at least 3 languages, some as many as six. They do have an official language...and they as we print it and teach it. They also teach other languages too. My point, hispanics come here to work. Their children know who their fathers are and sit at table with them. By the way, the parish I belonged to had masses in spanish. Many english only also attended. To learn!!!
Later on why the gangs. Over the L. quota.

Free rice, beans and tortillas might help.

I know there many "gimees" that are here; but for me in our older neighborhood that many hispanics can afford, they´re law abiding, hard working people who want better for their families. Don´t have a problem with that AT ALL.

I grew up with Hispanics too. Folks, there evidently ARE a good number of "gimmes" cuz we now have proof at the ballot box. Hey, even my Mexican girlfriends in West Texas say so. If most are really really that mad about being classified that way, then where are they? Why aren´t they standing up publicly, forming organizations to help white conservatives fight the stereotypes? When they are willing to incur the wrath of the LaRaza types in their neighborhoods to stand up for the values they say they believe in, I will believe them.

A fool´s errand. The GOP needs small government supporters, not Bush Big Government social conservatives. Central Americans will not vote GOP because of race, even if the GOP tries to outdo the Free Stuff party. Amnesty will not buy the GOP a single Mexican vote. The Democrats have been totally successful in dividing America into ethnic, racial, and sex-based identity groups. The solution is to split the country.

Hispanics vote Dem. That is all I need to know about them. I have nothing more to give. The Blacks took my last dollar.

They´ll need someone to replace all of us conservatives.

The stupid party (the Republicans) would be committing long-term political suicide by supporting liberal Democrat devised amnesty programs for the 12-20 million illegal aliens here now, that gives them a permanent immigration status and that puts them on "a path to citizenship" that is liberal Democrat code for eventually granting them US voting rights. Do doing that the stupid party (the Republicans) would be handing the liberal Democrats many millions of new foreign born socialist oriented voters in the years ahead. Once that happened the stupid party (the Republicans) would never again have enough votes to win future national elections.

This author is 100% correct about the leftist community organizing that has been underway now for a long time on the ground in Hispanic-American and immigrant communities. The stupid party (the Republicans) have no such ground game.

The highly partisan liberal Democrats would never be supporting such amnesty programs if they believed that more then a very small percentage of legalized aliens would ever have an epifinany and vote for conservative Republicans, that´s just not going to happen.

I have a question. If many of us believe there was some kind of fraud committed last week at the polls that caused us to lose, doesn´t that mean we probably actually won? If that´s true, then could it be our message did get through to a greater number of voters this time? Just wondering.

Most are hard-working, want to raise their families and be good citizens.
Most have been conditioned to distrust Republicans who want to deport them, to isolate them, etc...

Not even Obama says they should be allowed to advance to the front of the line which rules out amnesty.
Set up a path to legalization, and increasing the legal quota is the way to do it.
Have them sign up, register, pay a non-refundable application fee of $3000-5000 each, and get processed just like everyone else.
But, don´t just limit this increase in legal quota to the current illegals in the U.S., but expand this to allow for Irish, Germans, Chinese, India, Vietnam, Russia, etc...

Add a whole new wave of immigrants in a legal manner looking to achieve the American Dream.

What happens to the unemployment rate when you ´add´ 20 million + people in THIS economy???