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Topic: Obama to open fiscal talks with $1.6 trillion plan to raise taxes on wealthy |
Obama to open fiscal talks with $1.6 trillion plan to raise taxes on wealthy
Washington Post, by Zachary A. Goldfarb and Lori Montgomery
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Posted By:Dreadnought, 11/13/2012 10:47:14 PM
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| President Obama is taking a hard line with congressional Republicans heading into negotiations over the year-end fiscal cliff, making no opening concessions and calling for far more in new taxes than Republicans have so far been willing to consider. Obama plans to open talks using his most recent budget proposal, which sought to raise taxes on corporations and the wealthy by $1.6 trillion over the next decade, White House press secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday. That’s double the sum that House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) offered Obama during secret debt negotiations in 2011.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
BaseballFan, 11/13/2012 10:51:06 PM (No. 9012661)
So this is the big bipartisan plan to work together, hmm? pResident I Won. /s off/
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl, 11/13/2012 10:51:35 PM (No. 9012663)
Looks like "I won" is back at the table. Maybe the Republicans should walk. They´re going to be blamed anyway.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
RussVet, 11/13/2012 11:03:30 PM (No. 9012685)
Time for the House to put ole voting fraud lame duck back in his cage ...no to raising debt ceiling, no to new taxes and no to U.N gun take away effort ... who cares what he wants ... Obozo ran over everyone in his first two years and they have the power to impeach him over Benghazi...cant wait
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Davids918, 11/13/2012 11:08:49 PM (No. 9012695)
Let him propose his budget. The last 3 didn´t even get 1 single Democrat to vote for it.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Nimby, 11/13/2012 11:15:36 PM (No. 9012710)
As swipe
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Phil_hk, 11/13/2012 11:18:46 PM (No. 9012718)
Republicans except for enough RINO´s in seats the left could steal should vote "Present" Instruct a few of the left leaning guys to vote their conscience or what they need to do for reelection.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
God of Irony, 11/13/2012 11:19:49 PM (No. 9012723)
$1.6 trillion taken right out of the economy! How does that help? That is payroll, research, supplies, equipment and infrastructure that will not be bought the eocomy. This decrease activity will cause tax revenues to decrease.
If you are a Republican government official feel free to use this post to educate the uniformed.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec, 11/13/2012 11:21:52 PM (No. 9012726)
At this moment I am more afraid of Boehner than Obama. With Barack we know what we are getting, Boehner, not so much.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
noddy, 11/13/2012 11:33:28 PM (No. 9012740)
I don´t know if it is up to the House any more. President I Won has got the people behind him (them, the dumb ones, not us) and believes he can walk over any one and do anything. He should be renamed Dictator I Won Won. I´m waiting to see medals appearing on his chest.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Mr. Hanky, 11/13/2012 11:50:40 PM (No. 9012764)
Screw Obama. He hasn´t proposed a budget that a single Dem would vote for anyway...
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
fiddle ed, 11/13/2012 11:57:19 PM (No. 9012768)
Amen #6. Any form of agreement is the old Republican Party reverting to the entrenched minority. Their motto is Just Think How Bad It Would Have Been! Abstain, vote Present. Nothing this administration will do is for the welfare of the country. Devotion to the liberal ideology is the one and only thing they believe.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
belwhatter, 11/14/2012 12:33:39 AM (No. 9012798)
Boehnor better not cross the aisle on any of this - he´s our weakest link unfortunately.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
LanieLou, 11/14/2012 12:33:58 AM (No. 9012800)
4 years of Revenge has already begun. One surprising change has occured... all of the sudden, all comments on MSM website articles seem to be critical of The Won. They used to all tow the lib line.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Jimmyfoxhound, 11/14/2012 12:49:39 AM (No. 9012813)
It´s a spending problem, not a taxing problem my gosh.....
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
OhMy, 11/14/2012 1:27:50 AM (No. 9012840)
The cry baby with one half of one third of one tenth or whatever of the government has the whip hand. Just say NO to raising the debt limit, No to any revenue (tax) increases. The power of the purse is paramount. Don´t vote present. Don´t cry. Don´t be the least bit swayed by the howls from the left. Do the right thing, Do your job. Be a hero. Save the country. Do you realize that if the house shows courage and makes this debt limit stick they will force the issue on entitlement reform. Living within current income no longer leaves any discretionary spending outside of debt payments and entitlements. Every time this confrontation is postponed the situation is more dire the next time and it is plenty dire right now. This action will allow the best kept secret, a much better kept secret than any national security secret in the nation to "leak" out. The wealthy, even if you tax them penniless, cannot pay for the plans and promises Obama and liberals make. Producers are already in decline trying to come up with 61K for each "poor" Obama Voter. It is much easier to promise things and have dreams than it is to pay for them. A choice between fantasy and reality. Wow, who knew?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
dolphin, 11/14/2012 1:58:45 AM (No. 9012859)
End representation without taxation. Tax everybody. If you can´t pay, then you can work for your keep.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
OhMy, 11/14/2012 3:24:27 AM (No. 9012886)
That is it in a nutshell #16 representation without taxation! Rush goes on for hours trying to make this point but as he would say "Brevity is the soul of wit".
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Trigger2, 11/14/2012 3:32:28 AM (No. 9012892)
Barry met with all his union pals yesterday to discuss the fiscal cliff. Cavoto had the head of the teachers union on. His solution: Raise taxes on the rich; no cuts. Next up is big business (small business or at least the Chamber of Commerce was NOT invited). Of course, having big business discussions is just for show.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
oh-heck, 11/14/2012 7:34:14 AM (No. 9013113)
My response, tell them if they want to raise taxes, let the Bush rates expire and go back to the Clinton rates. Very simple, just let the extension expire. Let the payroll tax holiday extension also expire. Obama gets what he planned for on his first day of office - a massive tax hike. The GOP should draw the line keeping some extensions but not other. Let President Obama explain how he is investing the 8 to $10,000 he is taking from every taxpayer. See if they like his investment choices with their money.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Fosterdad, 11/14/2012 8:26:02 AM (No. 9013248)
Let him do it.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Echohawk, 11/14/2012 9:25:27 AM (No. 9013427)
Sometimes the best thing to do is to do nothing. Don´t raise the debt ceiling, let Obama explain why he needed to raise taxes, let him explain a year from now why his gov´t is still running huge deficits. Then, let him explain to the freebies crowd why they´ll be getting less freebies, not more. We get to pop the popcorn. Every once in a while a Briton finds a buried cache of gold and jewels. That was a family´s liquidated assets, a family as determined to keep it out of the hands of gov´t, as gov´t was equally determined to get their hands on it. Be shovel ready!
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