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Topic: Exit Petraeus–And His Famous Military Doctrine |
Exit Petraeus–And His Famous Military Doctrine
Time, by Michael Crowley
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Posted By:Drive, 11/12/2012 9:31:52 AM
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| The disgrace of David Petraeus has ended more than a great military career. It is also the symbolic end of a major chapter in American security strategy. The fall of the former Iraq and Afghanistan commander adds a tawdry exclamation point to the decline of counterinsurgency, the military theory for which Petraeus offered a heroic public face. Flash back to the mid-2000s. The Iraq war was an unmitigated disaster, with no apparent hope in sight.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
MisterDickens, 11/12/2012 9:37:12 AM (No. 9008634)
Look over here, quick, look over here.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
thomthomp, 11/12/2012 10:08:29 AM (No. 9008738)
You can argue over Petraeus´ military ideas, but it is utter barking at the moon nonsense to claim his personal scandal has anything to do with them. If that were true William Jefferson Clinton would have ended liberalism.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
stopevhillary, 11/12/2012 10:23:26 AM (No. 9008774)
Pay Attention. The goodies were got on Petraus and saved until needed. After all, who in their right mind would believe a "dirty old man" if he were to suddenly, I dunno, spill the beans on Benghazi or something...
And Time Magazine comes through with the discrediting of his military creds....it´s all so very convenient.
Beck posited this today: There is one way to destroy a nation. Destroy the press--check. Destroy the Education system ---check. Destroy the Economy --check. And finally, destroy the nations faith in it´s military.....That last part is fully underway right now via Benghazi (men were left behind!)and Petraus (military hero a dirty old man!)...check.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Stopstoreload, 11/12/2012 12:07:02 PM (No. 9009009)
Problem # 1: the Iraq War was not an unmitigated disaster. On September 11, al Qaeda attacked our towers and Pentagon causing many deaths and millions in damage armed only with box knives. What could they have done with WMD? Who had WMD?:
Saddam Hussein. He had used them them against the Kurds in the north. Georges Sada has written that they were removed before our ( GW Bush) Kuwait border crossing to Syria on converted air liners. John Loftus ( I believe)and others reported that the Russians helped Hussein fly WMD out of Iraq.
Another author wrote that, at the time of our invasion, his sons transported WMD from an area north of Baghdad to al Qaim just inside the Syrian border, and they were transferred to the Bekaa Valley and beyond.
Why Saddam? After the first (GHW) Bush war, his gunners were shooting at our patrolling aircrews, who were where they had a right to be doing what they had a right to do. ( contd).
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Stopstoreload, 11/12/2012 12:45:40 PM (No. 9009080)
There were rumored to be one or more al Qaeda training camps in northern Iraq, and the British had, in fact, reported that Huseein had sought yellowcake WMD ingredientsn Africa.
What could al Qaeda have done with WMD provided by Saddam? A small quantity of WMD chemicals placed in the reservoir of a place like Darien, Connecticut could have destroyed the entire population.
So unmitigate me any unmitigated disasters in our attacking Iraq. That was the challenge facing President Bush. There was one misclculation in our later occupation which caused a lot of grief, but the invasion was justified. For one thing, It stifled the ambitions of Libya´s Moammar Ghsdaffi, until someone (mentioning no names) aided in his overthrow - we have not seen the end of paying the butcher´s bill for that.
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