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Kristol: Yup, Time to Raise
Taxes on Rich People

National Review Online, by Eliana Johnson

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 11/12/2012 9:21:06 AM

Time to raise taxes on the rich. That’s according to Bill Kristol. On today’s Fox News Sunday panel, the Weekly Standard editor argued that the Republican Party should not “fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of whom voted Democratic and have of whom live in Hollywood and are hostile to Republican principles.”

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He should just go on over to the other side. He is just not helpful to our cause. This is the entire article with video.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: stopevhillary, 11/12/2012 9:26:45 AM     (No. 9008602)

He´s always been a squish, selling the farm for the latest cocktail party invite. Never had a backbone his entire life.


Reply 2 - Posted by: jackson, 11/12/2012 9:27:37 AM     (No. 9008605)

Little Billy is right for a change. The optics kill Republicans. They should have agreed to a higher number than 250k when they had a chance - say $1 million - This would permit the very rich to skate anyway. The problem is spending - not taxes. Anyway, simple math will solve this problem the day interest rates rise and the econmy collapses.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: KG4Bush, 11/12/2012 9:35:20 AM     (No. 9008630)

He is the one who I wish would go away. He represents the out-of-touch Republicans, the Beltway boys.


Reply 4 - Posted by: stablemoney, 11/12/2012 9:37:13 AM     (No. 9008635)

The democrats can print the money, which raises taxes on everyone, or borrow it, if the Chinese will lend it, and the next generation can repay it. The Republicans should not support any tax increase or tax reform, a trap for Republicans.
Elections have consequences, we voted the Republicans into control of the House.


Reply 5 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 11/12/2012 9:44:09 AM     (No. 9008655)

Why does The Stoopid Party insist on saving Dear Leader from his plans for the economy. Let Good King Barack own it.. Let him soak rich, do gooding, white liberals, let him sour his union buddies with four years of Zero job creation. The GOP will have plenty of areas to offer resistance: I.e. no new welfare/ "social net" spending; no Amnesty (which is just a ploy to score new voters for the Democraps). Oh, yeah, and fire Reince while your at. Hire Liz Cheney. Fire McConnell and hire Rubio or Rand Paul for Senate Minority Leader.


Reply 6 - Posted by: AGGW, 11/12/2012 9:48:10 AM     (No. 9008667)

Bill Kristol thinks way too highly of himself.


Reply 7 - Posted by: RUReadyY3K, 11/12/2012 9:53:54 AM     (No. 9008692)

I read this somewhere else, but looks to be true - take a look at the red and blue map of the U.S. It is probably the case that most of the rich people live in the blue counties and likely voted for Obama. So, Republicans are fighting to prevent raising taxes on mostly rich Obama supporters. Not 100% true of course, but the generalization may have more truth to it than not.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: dman, 11/12/2012 10:00:23 AM     (No. 9008712)

Just vote "present". Going to the mat on this issue simply re-enforces the ´party of the rich´ reputation.

They won´t do it, of course, since their Establishment is beholden to the money of the rich.

That is why we need a new party.


Reply 9 - Posted by: JAN, 11/12/2012 10:07:30 AM     (No. 9008732)

Hey billy boy. Kiss my grits.


Reply 10 - Posted by: thekidsmom66, 11/12/2012 10:07:34 AM     (No. 9008733)

Well...I think he´s right. Breitbart had an article a few days ago stating the the wealthiest did, in fact, vote overwhelmingly for Obama. They want to screw the country? I say it´s time we return the favor...


Reply 11 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 11/12/2012 10:07:34 AM     (No. 9008734)

It´s time to give up on this and let them do it. If their followers can learn anything they will see that it was useless. Someone said "Give the people what they want until they can´t stand it any more." Sounds sensible to me. We really can´t stop it anyway.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 11/12/2012 10:08:26 AM     (No. 9008737)

If he´s going to advocate this, why not then immediately add ´especially rich movie stars who don´t pay their fair share´.

I´m serious.if George Clooney and Tom Hanks want to pay more, then let´s play class warfare with them as the bad guys. How fair is it that they make $10 million in 6 weeks? Why didn´t Bill Kristol aim for Warren Buffett or,the family grifters at Wal Mart? Make these people pay.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: graniteman2009, 11/12/2012 10:22:38 AM     (No. 9008772)

All we are doign is trying to plug the damn with our fingers and our toes.

If you look at the Red&Blue map the millionaires are on the coasts. They vote for the Dems.

The GOP should let the rate rise. Let the GOP vote "present" like Obama did or vote Yes.

Tell Grover that the party is over. We are done defending rich democrats that stab us in the back every chance they get.

Not only raise the rate but close all the loop holes, especially for Hollywood. Close the loophole that benefit Michael Moore and Bill Maher and all the rest. No more Hollywood accounting.


Reply 14 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 11/12/2012 10:31:55 AM     (No. 9008800)

The Demon-RATS have a mandate to raise taxes on everyone. They know it, and they will be running with it.

Don´t get me wrong, they may call the tax increases ´´fees´´ (or other terms), but there will be tax increases and they will effect all of us.

At least we know it´s coming. I can´t wait for all those idiots that voted Demon-RAT because of all the cool ´´free stuff´´ that they were going to get, to suddenly realize that they are paying a lot more too. Of course, they will just blame it on the Republicans and vote Demon-RAT in future elections too.

You can´t fix stupid...


Reply 15 - Posted by: janjan, 11/12/2012 10:54:41 AM     (No. 9008855)

The rich are not going to pay. Ask France. Their new ´leader´ raised taxes on the rich to something like 70% and they are fleeing the country in droves. This has been a false argument from the beginning. $250,000 a year is far from rich. They are targeting small businesses who will either close or lay people off. The idiots do not get this.


Reply 16 - Posted by: Axeman, 11/12/2012 10:59:23 AM     (No. 9008865)

Businesses don´t pay taxes, we all pay their taxes for them if we buy their goods or services. Raising taxes on anyone raises the overall burden on the economy.
The people targets of the tax punishment will find more ways to avoid it making the plans to increase revenue fail.


Reply 17 - Posted by: kanphil, 11/12/2012 11:05:09 AM     (No. 9008883)

I am against higher taxes for anybody, even rich movie stars and industrialists. Taxes feed bigger government. It is naive to think that pols would use additional tax revenues to pay down debt. What Kristol should have done, indeed what we all should do is to scream at our elected representatives to cut spending.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: KingBubo, 11/12/2012 11:05:39 AM     (No. 9008885)

$250k per year is rich. You cna´t retire, but it is rich. This was part of Romeny´s problem. He came across as out of touch and the media was all too happy to portray him in that manner.


Reply 19 - Posted by: Safari Man, 11/12/2012 11:45:56 AM     (No. 9008970)

Its not just that the government drains the private sector by spending too much, its that the things they use the money on are working against my self interest. If I felt like the money was used wisely, I might feel a little bit differently, but its actually harmful to me when a section 8 housing project appears down the street and the food stamp users flood into my grocery store.


Reply 20 - Posted by: MissMann, 11/12/2012 11:56:48 AM     (No. 9008987)

A bunch of them may be Hollywood crazies, but a bunch are also small businesses. Yes, maybe the taxes will pass or 0bama will "decree" them, but republican should not help the process.

Stand for something, for goodness sake!


Reply 21 - Posted by: KimoSaavy, 11/12/2012 11:57:51 AM     (No. 9008990)

This is not a popular opinion, but I am with Kristol. You can tax every rich (anyone with a job) 100% and the deficit remains untouched. What does need to happen is to balance the move by:

-Ensuring all rich folks (whatever that is) are accounted for including and especially the hipocrites in the entertainment section (clooney, longoria, streisand, et al) who get a break from some obscure act that protects their income. BTW, boycot hollywood.

-Republicans need to demonstrate well into 2016 that inspite of these taxes nothing happened because they dems made NO concessions and we are now at 20 trillions in debt. Let the dems own that one.

-Ultimately taxes will come down as prompted by Bush.

-Any business adversely affected by increased taxes (obamacare comes to mind) should fire people at will. Fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire. They wanted bams, they should get bams.

This is not hard.


Reply 22 - Posted by: oh-heck, 11/12/2012 12:00:55 PM     (No. 9008996)

GOP should become the All of Nothing Party. If DNC wants to raise taxes on everyone, go ahead. If they want to raise taxes on no one, that too is fine. But make it the DNC choice.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: horacer, 11/12/2012 12:02:35 PM     (No. 9009000)

95% of the nation couldn´t explain the difference between marginal tax rates and effective tax rates. When the public is so uninformed the argument is lost.


Reply 24 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 11/12/2012 7:36:00 PM     (No. 9009849)

This guy is no conservative. I wish he´d get fired from National Review.


Reply 25 - Posted by: Penney, 11/12/2012 8:24:13 PM     (No. 9009926)

It will NEVER be enough for the radical activist dem pols! Their appetite for what belongs to other people can NEVER be satisfied, Kristol. ...The past 100 years of failed socialist history should have taught that lesson to everyone, but apparently not.

A thief is a thief is a thief...........



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