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Topic: Where Do Republicans Go From Here? The Social Issues |
Where Do Republicans Go From Here? The Social Issues
Power Line, by John Hinderaker
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Posted By:Dreadnought, 11/11/2012 6:09:38 PM
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| Do Democrats engage in soul-searching after they lose an election? Maybe I miss it because I’m not a Democrat, but it doesn’t seem that they do. After John Kerry lost in 2004, did Democrats agonize over whether they should stop opposing the war in Iraq, or become pro-abortion? When Democrats were “shellacked,” as President Obama put it, in 2010, did they debate whether they should come up with a coherent plan to deal with the debt and start adopting budgets? Not that I recall. We Republicans are different. Whenever we lose an election, you can be sure two things
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Spidey, 11/11/2012 6:20:02 PM (No. 9007835)
Republican need to stay who they are for the most part.Keep your mouth shut about rape.We didn´t lose this election on issues but personality cult and massive government giveaways and the MSM being 100% in the tank for Obama.You also have an education system that´s rewriting history to make our founders look like villains.
People like Soros knew exactly what to do to destroy this country,all he needed was a willing stooge like Obama.A white Obama would never have gotten re-elected.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Susannah, 11/11/2012 6:28:54 PM (No. 9007848)
This article is brilliant. I hope more people read it.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
dadofboys, 11/11/2012 6:39:51 PM (No. 9007862)
I despise my country and what it has become. Where can I go to escape. Please, where can I go and be a white, male physician, veteran, never arrested, never cheated on taxes, never on the dole, paid for everything I ever had and raising some very decent law abiding kids. Is there a country that wants me?? Willing to travel!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
PoliticalJunky, 11/11/2012 6:46:01 PM (No. 9007868)
Reply 3, you must not despise your country. Despise its leaders. I understand and share your misery. It is a bitter pill to swallow that the Republic is lost. America, 1620 to 2012, RSP.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
sunsong, 11/11/2012 6:46:12 PM (No. 9007869)
This is excellent. Take heed all you know-it-alls and purists :-) A big tent wins more elections than a holier-than-thou tent.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Muguy, 11/11/2012 6:48:56 PM (No. 9007871)
How about trying some [r]epublicanism as advocated by the founders....
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
dolphin, 11/11/2012 6:50:34 PM (No. 9007874)
Everybody should be able to love whichever consenting adult he or she wishes to love.
Marriage is a religious rite. It violates the separation of church and state for the state to marry people. The state can recognize a civil union. (What next, atheist baptism?)
Abortion is murder. Period.
If we don´t stop sending our children to state run schools we will all die in concentration camps.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Not your typical New Yorker, 11/11/2012 6:51:51 PM (No. 9007875)
I don´t despise my country but I do hate what it has become.
I don´t know much, I´m just a guy but I say fight the dems and let them have what they want now, when the the crash comes, I mean the catastrophic crash comes, we will be the savior of the country with clarity and fiscal sanity.
Right now the population wants Santa Claus, let them have it in spades but be against it all the way.
When people find themselves selling apples on the street corner it will clarify their minds like nothing else... let it come, sooner rather than later, get it over with.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Mike PHX, 11/11/2012 7:00:43 PM (No. 9007887)
There should be a list of faux Conservatives, even Republicans. Whenever the MSM tries to trot them out as "conservatives", or even "Republicans", we can nip them in the bud. Lets begin with the Stupid Media´s favorites: David Brooks David Frum Peggy Noonan Steve "Dumbass fat bald MF" Schmidt
This is just a starting list...
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Yephora, 11/11/2012 7:19:53 PM (No. 9007923)
My core values come from the Bible -- period. Hollowed-out politicians on both sides of the aisle with their eye fixed on society´s moral weathervane will inevitably wind up pandering to the sewer. Christians must resolutely stand with the unchanging word of God.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
sgtfox of the jarhead clan, 11/11/2012 7:26:20 PM (No. 9007931)
Will we ask ourselves that same question when the brown shirts come to take us away...where do we go from here ? I look at my neighbors with deep suspicion now. More than half of them are plotting an end to my America .
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
GreatPlains, 11/11/2012 7:32:37 PM (No. 9007937)
The author makes valid points . Somewhere along the way , the attitude towards a big tent party was deemed to be heresy. Republicans will be looking at a pup tent if they don´t take Hinderaker´s sage advice.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Lt.Mom, 11/11/2012 7:42:55 PM (No. 9007953)
Amen, #10, Amen!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
rabbit, 11/11/2012 7:49:24 PM (No. 9007959)
I agree with the author´s approach on abortion and gay marriage. But I think the welfare issue needs more fundamental thinking.
Running against ´welfare´ is a non-starter, for it depends on what one means by ´welfare´. Seniors don´t think of their Social Security payments as ´welfare´, but once they have received back what they and their employers put in, plus interest...it is welfare, plain and simple. And Republicans don´t intend to run against Social Security.
I think we would all agree to government payments to people who are unable to work due to severe disabilities. Millions of families have a disabled loved one. When Republicans talk about the fat, lazy nonworkers on welfare, it drives away these families who have responsibility for a severely disabled adult who would love to work...if he could.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
lakerman1, 11/11/2012 7:59:19 PM (No. 9007966)
I respectfully disagree with you, #14. I collect social security, after I and my various employers paid into the fund for 60 years! And I also paid both sides of ss for my self employment for 31 years. If I had been able to invest the money put into my account over 60 years, I would be much better off than I am now, with the mandated monthly benefit. So I don´t consider my monthly check to be welfare, but a relatively low rate of return on my investment.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
bluehouse, 11/11/2012 8:00:56 PM (No. 9007970)
The worry of gay marriage isn´t just gay marriage per se. Many are concerned of the slippery slope. If gay marriage is allowed why not polygamy? Gay marriage will of course be advocated in the schools and if it conflicts with your religion you and your children will be bigots.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
mominNoCA, 11/11/2012 8:00:57 PM (No. 9007971)
Good points, #14, but many of us who have adult children with disabilities on SSI know the GOP isn´t referring to our kids when they speak of the Gimme Crowd. It´s not always articulated well by our party´s candidates, that´s true.
I was touched when Mitt Romney mentioned his sister, who has an adult son with Down syndrome, at one of his last campaign stops. He should have made his position on government assistance for this group clearer much earlier in his campaign.
However, I think Republicans should also study and learn strategies to combat election fraud. That was also a factor in Obama´s win, and it has nothing to do with the parties´ positions on various issues.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Coy860, 11/11/2012 8:10:35 PM (No. 9007987)
For starters, how about going back to the Constitution? Explain to the People what the government is and is NOT in place to do.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
octrojan, 11/11/2012 8:18:25 PM (No. 9007993)
No, #15, you haven´t "paid" into SS. FICA taxes are general budgetary revenues and are used for current expenditures--war, welfare, foreign aid, interest on the debt--it goes into the general pot. There is no trust fund or "lock box." You haven´t paid a penny into SS.
You´re also taking out far more in benefits that was supposedly "paid" in on your behalf. You´re collecting welfare, period. Not saying we junk SS, but let´s at least be honest. But no one is going to take SS away, so it´s a bit of a red herring. Your comment, however, shows how hard it is to talk honestly about "welfare," corporate or otherwise.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
FormerDem, 11/11/2012 8:24:05 PM (No. 9007998)
Try this advice and I will abandon you for a third party. Here is a warning: I´m a sledgehammer.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Katie Corrupt, 11/11/2012 8:34:01 PM (No. 9008014)
When families were strong, before skyrocketing divorce rates and out-of-wedlock births, people never needed government to be the answer to all their problems. Families cared for their own. The government is a poor substitute and as government attempts to be Mommy and Daddy to 50 million or so people, they are destroying the future of the other 250 million people.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
ramona, 11/11/2012 10:11:18 PM (No. 9008114)
I do not see how we can separate out social issues from fiscal issues. Why? Because the bar keeps getting pushed, by the left, further and further towards the absurd.
For example, my liberty is threatened when I am told that I must play along with some poor deluded soul who was born with male parts and DNA but who now wants to be a female - even if he wants to share the restroom with me. In the workplace or school, notices are posted that promise state sanctions against anyone who shares a differing opinion.
I understand Hinderaker´s view here, but life is not so simple any longer. Ramona (the Pest)
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
TXknitter, 11/12/2012 12:30:30 AM (No. 9008219)
Amen #10 - and we are going to do just that.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Japanorama, 11/12/2012 1:17:50 AM (No. 9008240)
Certainly not to another Bush, Dole, McCain, or Romney.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
StormCnter, 11/12/2012 7:03:12 AM (No. 9008370)
Yup, we lost a crucial election. Nope, we are not doomed, done for, killed off or moving to Canada. Not if we retain our love for country and everything it has stood for all these years. I was as depressed as anyone else, but I refuse to allow Barack Obama´s victory to reprogram my confidence that my party can learn from our missteps (perceived or real). And, I will not be defeated by the media and David Axelrod. Those of you who are lying down in surrender should be ashamed.
Thank you, John Hinderaker. I agree with almost everything you said.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
dadofboys, 11/12/2012 8:21:43 AM (No. 9008475)
I guess I will be fine with a government that is fully socialised, as long as we all pull the cart and I dont get treated like a pack mule because Im white. Hence, I will not be living in the US, because when the US goes full socialist, it will be Venezuela, not Sweden. When I do move, it will be to an all white, no mexican hispanic country, wherever that may be.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
MDConservative, 11/12/2012 10:42:29 AM (No. 9008822)
Great advice to politicians, ignoring the fact that many hold deep concerns about social issues, including marriage, abortion and "welfare". So, the best strategy is to expect those with "nowhere else to go" to show up along with a number of lightly-principled-centrists to vote for conservatism, if not exactly buy into it. Genius...?
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