Last week’s presidential election left many Republicans looking for answers, having not only lost the White House, but by only by a small margin. And now that the dust has settled, it has given some the opportunity to figure out where things stand with the party, including Wall Street Journal columnist and former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan. In an appearance on CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday, Noonan was asked if the Republican Party could find a way to appeal to Hispanic voters.
Comments: How many Republicans does she really have contact with? Does she even know a conservative?
This stupid twit doesn´t know the difference between rage and desperation. I guess from her Beltway tower she sees only the stupidity of the simpletons in fly-over country. After all, who but the mindless simpletons who make up the Angry Mob would reject the more coherent view of the Republican establishment apparatchiks who know all, see all, and the proceed to lose all.
The fate of our nation depends now on the midterm elections and a turn around in the senate. If we are to make any real headway in avoiding the complete financial collapse and the accompanying civil unrest (war?) that will follow. I fear for my son´s future because of the cowardice of so many of the last three generations to make any real sacrifice. And I´m not sure that they will be any more ready in the next 24 months.
Sound fiscal principles sound pretty good to people with sound fiscal principles just as sound moral principles sound good to those who live by them. Whenever those principles are lived fully, they work. However, it enrages those devoid of principles and it their envy and rage that rings in Peggy´s ears.
It´s too bad that the hispanic voters don´t understand that by voting democrat, they are voting for the very policies that caused them, their parents, or grandparents to want to leave their home countries and come to America in the first place. The democrats are slowly destroying the opportunities that make the US a place worth immigrating to.
The republicans/conservatives have always been looked upon as being old fuddy duddy´s, square, not with it ... You get my point.
This is what needs to change, but without changing our message of self reliance, working hard, patriotism, etc.
In other words, we need to show that it´s cool to be conservative. I´m not sure how this can be done. I will leave that up to branding and marketing experts. Maybe the Republican Party should hire a marketing company.
They won´t be happy until the GOP elects a left wing Democrat as our Nominee. The cries that Mitt Romney was not moderate enough are actually kind of pathetic, and would be humorous if we were talking about something less important.
Frankly Peggy...it´s republicans like you are are the problem, have been the problem, and will continue to be the problem mof the GOP unless we stand up and kick people like you and the rest of the elite republican to the curb.
You speak for Peggy Noonan...and sadly, you always have!
Peggy, shut the heck up. Just shut up. I do not care what you think, you ridiculous twit who slobbered over Obama four years ago. People like YOU have contributed to where this country is today. So you go on and go to your little cocktail parties and sigh about how ignorant all us peons in flyover country are, and bravely soldier on for the cause of mediocrity. And in 25 years, you look at where the country is then, and you look in the mirror, and you take pride in what you see, because YOU helped build it. (And by build, I mean destroy.) I can´t write more about what I think of you lest I be banned by our gracious hostess, you ridiculous twit. I repeat myself, but some things deserve emphasis.
What a twit. I´m not going to add my vote to people who vote 70% Hispanic and 93% Black. I´m going to ask 93% of the white population to vote Conservative and follow the voting traits of the racial party. Vote for your own. That seems to be what they are preaching in the Democrat Party.
Noonan speaks for the establishment Republicans in the Beltway and leadership committees across the country. They cannot stand the people who make up the Tea Party and they cannot stand conservatives. If maintaining their station in life means adopting the ideas and principles of the Democrats then they are happy to do it.
Listen to what they are saying. They are pushing to make changes only to get votes. In effect they are becoming exactly like the Democrats and using minorities to gain and stay in power.
Before determining what it is going to do or needs to do, the Republican party needs to determine who and what it is first. Unfortunately, the division in the Republican party is too deep and wide to bridge and bring back together just as the division in the US appears to be as well.
The Republican party collected fewer votes in ´12 then in ´08, nominate a New England semi-RINO in ´16 and watch that number fall more. The Tea Party is the future of the Republicans or a third party. The Republican "establishment" is the problem, or is it us "fly-over" people who refuse to go along to get along?
The Tea Party begrudgingly got "some" credit for the historical GOP sweep in 2010. Two years later, it´s all that´s wrong with the Republicans and if only the Tea Party were shut up, the GOP would ride a cascade of success. The biggest concern the Tea Party had of Mitt Romney was his apparent waffling principles. But we were willing to overlook that in the hopes that he would defeat a Degenerate who has no principles except for looking out for Number Won. Now they are condemning us for losing the election? The Tea Party is the only remnant left in America that has a clear set of principles! How long do we listen to the rank and file GOP? When, just when is it time to form our own party? If we, as an independent party, stand for principles I think we would be amazed at the dichotomy of supporters we would have. Look - the same thing is happening in churches across the USA. When they water down their doctrine and allow the newcoming "experts" to dictate how things should be; when they try to be all things to all people - they reap the whirlwind -- they no longer stand for anything and prostitute themselves out to every stray and corrupt breeze that comes along. The Tea Party does not need to shrink and shrivel away, nor does it need to adapt itself to make it more palatable to others. We saw in 2010 what it can do. Stay the course, Tea Party!
Rage of the tea party? Where and when? Listening to old Peggy is like listening to Obama.....stuttering, uhing, uming until what she´s trying to say makes no sense. Go away, Peggy and Bill, etc. You have no idea what people like us are like. No idea at all. Dems and Republicans on the coasts and in DC are exactly the same. No thank you to any of them.
Oh, Peggy, we will get converts by the end of next year. You see, green is a color we all understand and when we are all in the same broke boat, we´ll come together. Seems many of our fellow Americans just need the 2x4 treatment.
And what did she think about Occupy Wall Street rage? Was that the kind of rage that wins over converts? public defacation, filth and blocking public access to their places of work... that´s more persuasive than all those grey-haired people with flags singing God Bless America.
Peggy Noonan is ultimately one of the elite establishment types. I´m just a Jewish woman, American who loves her country and also knows a few tea party types. Having attending three tea party meetings in my lifetime, I must say that they were the nicest most civilized concerned citizen I´ve ever met. There is more rage on the board of the average synagogue, because of differences of opinion than I saw at a tea party.
Who´s going to invite this old has-been to a cocktail party now? She spent the last 3 months or so shaking her head at how President Wonderbum had tossed away all his advantages and what a disappointment he´d turned out to be. That was when she thought the Republicans were winning. Now that she´s seen where the booze and the cozy treats are, she wants back at the Democrat table again, but why should they bother with her anymore? She abandoned Obama when she thought he was a loser; there are plenty of LOYAL journalists who can take her vacated place under the table licking up the crumbs.
Just as Noonan and the rest of the establishment RINO GOP created the false narrative--to cover for their repeated political failures--that Sarah Palin cost the republicans the White House last election, they are now going to try--to once again rewrite history--and blame this RINO disaster on the Tea Party. That´s funny considering the geniuses running Romney´s campaign wouldn´t even let anyone mention the name Tea Party let alone embrace them. That worked out great didn´t it Peggy?
You all outght to be listening to Noonan and other kind-hearted people. Believe no one is listening to you! You are the reason that GOP has been losing and will continue to if you do not become wiser, kinder and more caring.
A brilliant post 21. I´ll add that if a third party forms and starts to take off, quite a few of the old guard republicans will run out front and try to convince us they have been with us all along. Personal power is more important to them than pretty much anything. Dont listen to what they say. Look at what they do and have done.
I´ve had enugh with this drunk babbler RINO. Is there no one who can shut her up? Why does FOX now use her for commentary? Is anyone listening about the level of insult she extends everytime she picks up her booze soaked pen. For the love of all of us suffering, we don´t need this box of stupid telling us anything.
It´s really getting tiresome to have all these supposed GOP talking heads suggesting that conservatives in this country need to flush their principles down the sewer to be co-mingled with the Progressive/Socialists simply to win elections. If that´s the price, it´s too high and I for one would rather stand for what is right and be forever out of power than sell out to the immoralists and progressive secuularists. The truth, moral character, integrity, and family values have absolutely no meaning to those people. They may be in charge, but they will forever be wrong.
Is this thread a good place to post that aside from Lucianne, I have nowhere to go for information that, once there, doesn´t sadden me or madden me. Noonan became famous by dismissing Reagan as an aged actor in an empty suit - how many remember that? (Her gratitude for a speech writing job - heh.) Her empty-minded blather is blown up by the MSM because it always denigrates conservatism.
I am sick of reading our own blogs that are in the same reality-denying universe as the MSM, just coming at us from a different side. When I looked at RCP on the day before the election it was clear Romney wasn´t going to win (and I earlier predicted Romney would win Illinois in an optimistic burst of naivete.) Why then, were so many right-leaning blogs predicitng a Romney landslide? How are we well-served by such nonsense?
Jessie Jackson´s son gets a beer distributorship in Chicago after his father protests the company. Glen Beck is selling $100+ jeans and telling us it is part of some revolution. How do such people get so many followers that overlook the self-serving behavior?
Apparently the Jeremiah Wright style of rage, however, has won a lot of converts, one of whom was Ms Noonan in 2008. If there is any Tea Party Rage, it is because of the current policies that are leading to the decline of the US, not to progress as liberals like to pretend.
Moderates don´t win elections among either Dems or Reps. Perhaps the only exception was Clinton in ´96 but that was because (1) we ran a horrible candidate and (2) the economy was booming. Reps who win are conservatives and Dems who win are liberals.
As Truman said, when urged to move to the center: "Give people a choice between a republican and a republican, and they´ll pick the republican every time." We run as center-left, we love to the true lefties.
The tea party was not involved Noonan. They were not on the stage during Romney´s nomination process...not one. Romney should have included the tea party, Ron Paul, Palin, Coeburn, DeMint, Franklin Graham...by the way Peg I have talked to loads of people..no one.. not one believes Romney lost. Noonan & Krystol are what´s wrong with the party..not the tea party. Does she remember the 2010 & Walker elections??? She needs to get out DC more often.
Hey, peggy. Why don´t you just go ahead and admit you are a marxist democRAT? All you better red than dead washington, d. c., butt kissers do is try to destroy the republican party and anyone that does not worship at the karl marx altar.
The wimpy Republicans are not about to start winning future elections by becoming the Democrat Lite Party, neither are they going to win future elections by going along with liberal Democrat amnesty programs for illegal aliens that are bound to generate millions of new liberal Democrat voters in a few years. The highly partisan liberal Democrats would not be proposing those "path to citizenship" amnesty programs if they thought that more then a very small percentage of legalized aliens would ever vote for conservative Republicans.
All evidence to the contrary. 2010 went extremely well and Romney wasn´t a tea party candidate.
2014 will give the tea party their first opportunity to campaign against D senators in red states who have so far been held unaccountable for their votes on Obamacare and the government stimulus. Party on.
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