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The Voters Who Stayed Home
National Review Online, by Andrew C. McCarthy

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Posted By:tocsin, 11/11/2012 9:38:41 AM

The key to understanding the 2012 election is simple: A huge slice of the electorate stayed home. The punditocracy — which is more of the ruling class than an eye on the ruling class — has naturally decided that this is because Republicans are not enough like Democrats: They need to play more identity politics (in particular, adopt the Left’s embrace of illegal immigration) in order to be viable. But the story is not about who voted; it is about who didn’t vote. In truth, millions of Americans have decided that Republicans are not a viable alternative

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I voted for Romney because I believe he is a better man than Obama. Not because of his politics.
The Republican Party MUST learn that as long as they keep giving us Democrat-Lite, they and The Country will continue to lose. Period!

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: tren9, 11/11/2012 9:45:44 AM     (No. 9006861)

Many of the Dem wins across the country were the result of voter fraud. Listen to Stalin. Uncle Joe said that he didn´t care who voted; he cared who counted the votes.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: MDConservative, 11/11/2012 9:56:31 AM     (No. 9006876)

FTA: "...(When Republicans)ran Washington during the Bush years, (they)orchestrated an expansion of government size, scope, and spending that would still boggle the mind had Obama not come along."

I have a pre-existing condition that is miraculously almost gone now...a middle-class life.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: tomishere, 11/11/2012 10:02:13 AM     (No. 9006892)

I think this article is a rationalization trying to explain why the traitors on our side who stayed home.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Vivi, 11/11/2012 10:03:25 AM     (No. 9006894)

How many voters stay home because the media tells them the only votes that matter are in Ohio, Florida, and North Carolina?


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Reply 5 - Posted by: HistoryBuff, 11/11/2012 10:09:21 AM     (No. 9006911)

And the ones who showed up voted to lower their standard of living.

Farewell America, the world will miss it.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Pearson365, 11/11/2012 10:09:35 AM     (No. 9006912)

GOP has to stop its foolish use of rerun candidates, the candidates whose lingering power is stronger than their political principles. McCain and Romney were both primary challengers to GWB in 2000. McCain resurfaced in 2008 with no clear reasons for running other than that he was a POW and Obama wasn´t. Romney tried again in 2008 and succeeded in 2012. But why? Like McCain, he offered remarkable personal decency, but little in the way of a truly conservative philosophy. Neither man was prepared for the incredibly negative attacks of Obama nor able to clearly explain why they were running. Nice guys without clear political beliefs do finish last.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: preciosodrogas, 11/11/2012 10:12:19 AM     (No. 9006920)

I think that Mr. McCarthy has a valid point. I don´t think they were able to steal 11 million votes. The two parties are very much alike and like it the way it is. It cannot be changed from the top down. There is no difference between the two parties as the article pointed out and as did many poster here did during the primary. Tea Party, build from the base up, build from local elections up, gain the majority and the power. We can´t topple them we need to divide and conquer to replace them. We need a conservative party not a dem-lite to save the country. The Republican Party gave us another dem-lite candidate and we lost again.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: fire_mission, 11/11/2012 10:13:11 AM     (No. 9006924)

Bingo #3. Early in the cycle, Ralph Reed said that Romeney would need evangelical votes at the same level as Bush attined in order to win..and he was heading a drive to maximize their turnout.

IN the end, they failed to turn out, along with the libertarians. Tea Pary types were huge supporters of Romney.

Also, McCarthy implies that he saw little difference between Romney and Hussein. He is a nutjob. Then again, McCarthy was a huge supporter of Fitzgerald when he persecuted Scooter Libby.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: laotzu, 11/11/2012 10:16:46 AM     (No. 9006935)

I have yet to see in any post-election reporting that the Libertarian vote nearly tripled from 08 to 12. And no, I did not throw my vote away in 08 with a Lib´t vote. Just making the observation that their base is growing.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: CEP, 11/11/2012 10:22:57 AM     (No. 9006943)

Why has Arkansas gone Red? The state that spawned Clinton and Hillary, it is now Red, all 4 Representatives, 1 Sentator the State House is now almost Red, our County is now Red. WHY?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: disasterman, 11/11/2012 10:25:17 AM     (No. 9006947)

Gary Johnson siphoned away over a million votes from Romney and that was with most Libertarians staying home because Ron Paul was not running. If Paul had showed up at the Republican convention and endorsed Romney enough votes would have been gained to overcome the fraud and we wouldn´t be having this conversation.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: hpy879, 11/11/2012 10:27:48 AM     (No. 9006952)

Stop putting the blame on the Republican party. It´s the fools that did not get out
and vote. Your neighbors, friends, relatives/kinfolks, they the one´s at fault.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: mws50, 11/11/2012 10:31:33 AM     (No. 9006965)

Has anyone investigated the voting machines for a trojan bug? The understanding I have is they all come from one Soros owned company.
Is that an urban myth?

We need something to explain the vote discrepancy. Huge Romney rallies, small obama rallies. Worst economy in recent memory, thanks to democrats, blame Bush crowd is minimized. Highly motivated voters versus lack of enthusiasm voters.

Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: chumley, 11/11/2012 10:36:26 AM     (No. 9006976)

Probably one of the best articles I have read in a long time.
Both parties are driving the same car down the same road and toward the same cliff. They fight (in public view) over which lane to drive in. Both parties are power drunk and equally corrupt, and neither party cares much about the founders or the Constitution.
The dems drag us to the left, and the reps hold us there till the next dem gets in. Big deal. Thats how the UK ended up where it is.
I voted for Romney after much agonizing over my priciples. I dont like to reward people who have served me badly, but once again I did. Apparently other people have stronger resolve than I do.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: St. Pitbull, 11/11/2012 10:36:49 AM     (No. 9006978)

How about, "The votes that weren´t counted?"

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Catherine, 11/11/2012 10:42:01 AM     (No. 9006992)

No one was listening to us. Beltway GOPers didn´t want any Rush listeners involved in this campaign. They definitely didn´t want the Tea Party. And every word Palin said was ridiculed and made fun of. So, did they learn their lesson last week. I hope so. I have voted for a RINO for the last time. And that´s a fact.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: sfacheem, 11/11/2012 10:46:29 AM     (No. 9007009)

Anyone "conservative" who did not find Romney suitable enough to vote for is, in my opinion, a spoiled child. Nobody will make you happy because you have allowed the perfect to become the mortal enemy of the good.

Go to hell, all of you.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: trapper, 11/11/2012 10:48:17 AM     (No. 9007011)

The voters who stayed home? More precisely, the voters who were expected to vote for Romney, but who stayed home. So, who were they? Paulies? Evangelicals? Angry culture warriors? Who were they?

Mr. McCarthy dances all over the floor, but until we identify precisely who it was that Romney was counting on but didn´t show up, there really is not much to talk about.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: brianod1, 11/11/2012 10:49:54 AM     (No. 9007014)

It is pure hokum that Romney didn´t run as a conservative (or isn´t one), didn´t run against Obamacare, didn´t raise Benghazi as an issue - he did all of those things. As I posted on another thread yesterday, I believe there was a strong but silent undercurrent of anti-Mormon bigotry at play here. Not among conservatives (but where were they on Election Day?), but among others who didn´t want to vote for Obama but did because they couldn´t vote for a Mormon.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Susannah, 11/11/2012 11:00:00 AM     (No. 9007034)

If Romney lost because he wasn´t sufficientl;y conservative (which I don´t believe for a minute) then how do you explain the losses of "purer" conservatives such as Mia Love (her state went for Romney), Akin, Mandel, Mourdock, and (apparently) West? Granted Akin and Mourdock--and to some extent, Mandel--are blockheads, but shouldn´t the purity of their conservatism have overcome that, if it´s truly what the majority wants? I feel bad about Love; she never put a foot wrong, as far as I can see.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 11/11/2012 11:00:07 AM     (No. 9007035)

Well, McCarthy doesn´t have a lot of new facts here, we still need another couple of weeks to tell us exactly what happened.

A lot of voters of BOTH sides probably stayed home in big blue states like California and New York. Have to focus separately on the battlegrounds.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: J F Ackerman, 11/11/2012 11:07:19 AM     (No. 9007054)

The Republican Party needs to face a few facts. Evangelicals, Ronulans, libertarians, and bigots of all stripes are not going to vote for them... neither are many litmus-test conservatives. Evangelicals, in particular, believe we are in the end times and will not lift a finger to postpone them. Republicans need to move on from all these voters and re-build its message as best it can... not easy to do with all the forces arrayed against it. Darkness has fallen and, honestly, I don´t know if we´ll ever see a constitutional America again.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: tocsin, 11/11/2012 11:08:41 AM     (No. 9007060)

Please continue to deny that the Elite Establishment Republicans are underminers of genuine conservatives.
And let them off with the ´´fraud´´ excuse.
Then we will continue to get what we have gotten.
#20-the above reason is why we continue to have weak and ´´blockhead´´ candidates.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: addicted_to_coffee, 11/11/2012 11:08:59 AM     (No. 9007061)

I was formulating a suitable comment when I reached #17.

ditto - in spades

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Reply 25 - Posted by: MissMann, 11/11/2012 11:09:07 AM     (No. 9007064)

But it was balanced out by the 147% that showed up for the dems...

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Reply 26 - Posted by: bluefindad, 11/11/2012 11:47:43 AM     (No. 9007138)

Excellent analysis. Kudos to Mr. McCarthy. Prior to the election, I discussed and argued the election choices with a number of men. These men were not ideological liberals, nor were they staunch social conservatives or evangelicals. However, they were overwhelmingly cynical. They were convinced that the politicians, both Democrat and Republican, were all crooks and traveling down the same road.

I voted for Romney, as did my entire family.
However, I have never been greatly enthused because, I´ve realized for man years that Romney was not a reformer. There was no credible candidate, including Romney, who beat the drum and shouted from the rooftops that he would do something about the corruption.

That is why I was so disappointed that Sarah did not run. I wanted to see Obama nailed for his crony ventures and paybacks by someone with a history as a reformer. That´s the only thing that could have excited me, and perhaps even the cynics I spoke with.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: keeptherepublic, 11/11/2012 11:53:23 AM     (No. 9007150)

Who stayed home? My county turned out 90% of the registered voters. And we voted 4 to 1 for Romney.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Cotton Top, 11/11/2012 12:14:19 PM     (No. 9007198)



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Reply 29 - Posted by: absalom, 11/11/2012 1:32:28 PM     (No. 9007339)

Andy McCarthy pens a lucid truth and the paranoids are out in force w/their lame excuses; voter fraud, anti-Mormon bigoty, treason etc. Principled conservatives warned in vain about Dudley-Do-Right from day one but we were told to buzz off. The majority of voters understood in their souls that Obama was out of his depth but they related to him because of who he was w/his troubled upbringing and all. As for Willard, they also understood that fine breeding, good manners and proper schooling are the hallmarks of the pretentious rich and had nothing to do w/them. Perhaps most critically, when it came to policy, voters grasped that Willard was for anything, everything and nothing, all in the same sentence; Romneycare being Exhibit A. Yet despite the stone cold fact that Willard was a modish lefty in the Rockefeller mold, w/o any core; the DC establishment insisted he was the Man. Hey they don´t call the GOP the stupid party for nothing.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Stopstoreload, 11/11/2012 1:38:34 PM     (No. 9007343)

A lesson in words of one syllable so that even idiots can understand it: "If you don´t vote, and they do, they will win."
Don´t make me have to tell you this again.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Cor-vet, 11/11/2012 2:27:16 PM     (No. 9007419)

I really believe it´s the spoiled voters whose fav candidate lost in the primarys, so they just stayed home. Kind of like, "If I can´t be the quarterback, you can´t use my football!´ in kids games.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: pickle1, 11/11/2012 2:42:32 PM     (No. 9007443)

Yeah right. The minorities didn´t need to show up as their votes were already there in the machines or wherever ready to be counted 200 percent. The whites did show up but their votes got lost in the machines.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 11/11/2012 2:51:30 PM     (No. 9007463)

I admire and respect Andrew McCarthy immensely. But.... I am firmly and thoroughly convinced there was massive fraud perpetrated against Romney and Republicans. It´s only a matter of time, with the proper persistence of the right people, before it´s known. I pray it´s not too late by that time as it may already be too late.

But I DON´T want to hear these excuses and ´´oh well´s´´. We´ve been had. Our side DID turn out....the polls were NOT wrong. WE have been disenfranchised..... OUR votes were corrupted after-the-fact.

I DON´T accept this fraudulent re-election of this fraudulent imposter.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: M Stuart, 11/11/2012 3:16:10 PM     (No. 9007503)

I think it was partly racism against the somewhat blonde blue-eyed white couple. Every time I saw them on TV I was struck by their classy behavior and bearing, and I was reminded that the changing culture is more comfortable with gawky, uneducated, vulgar, disheveled, arrogant, cool people who make them feel better about themselves in comparison.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 11/11/2012 9:32:03 PM     (No. 9008081)

Many here did not vote because they were too special to vote early or stand in long lines. Some left the lines because they were not physically able to stand in line for hours and there were no accommodations for the disabled.

Now we all pay.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Italiano, 11/11/2012 9:40:02 PM     (No. 9008089)

I got wiped out again in California, across-the-board smackdown on every one of my issues and candidates. I´ll keep voting, if for no other reason than the potential opportunity to kick the crap out of a New Black Panther or union puke observer some day.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: msjena, 11/11/2012 10:00:07 PM     (No. 9008103)

It is indeed shocking that so many who voted the last time did not this time. It does not follow, however, that they stayed home because they thought they had no choice between the two candidates. Here are a couple of other possibilities: The population may have increased but many are still too young to vote. It may be that the WWII generation is dying off or is too infirm to vote and that the voting population has decreased. Some people just couldn´t bring themselves to vote for a Mormon--and I´m sorry to say that this is true of some, not all,evangelicals. There was no enthusiasm for either side this year--unlike in 2008 when both Obama and Palin brought out the crowds. Candidate likeability makes a difference.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Penney, 11/11/2012 10:32:03 PM     (No. 9008132)

There were reports & even photos the day of the election about voter intemidation for 0bama at the polling places & the actual security of the vote, yet after the count, we have read nothing from any investigations, much less any inquiries by the Congress, regarding any accountability. There are absolutely no reassurances by any in authority about the sanctity & security of legal ballots. mmm mmm mmm

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Bla Bla, 11/11/2012 11:14:54 PM     (No. 9008159)

Well, if this election is going to be looked at by who´s voters stayed home, then Mitt Romney won by 7,000 votes. GOP had 3k less than last time, but the Dem side had 10K less. I feel slightly better, thanks McCarthy.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: ragu, 11/12/2012 12:40:47 AM     (No. 9008224)

Isn´t it obvious that the reason Romney was all of the above? Voter fraud, voters who stayed home, and the reason mentioned above in these replies.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: OhMy, 11/12/2012 2:35:52 AM     (No. 9008253)

I encourage everyone to follow the ZeroHedge link to the blog post "It doesn´t matter" The point there is that we are already over the fiscal cliff some time ago - not in a few weeks time. Romney thought he could be president by running against a total disaster of a president. I don´t doubt that vote fraud plays a part but the point of this article is that Romney was also painting a rose coloured view of the present situation and the solution. Now we must rely on the cry baby as our leader! The problem will get worse before it gets better, Obama will do as he pleases, and we are already sliding down the cliff..

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Reply 42 - Posted by: OhMy, 11/12/2012 3:03:32 AM     (No. 9008261)

Please pardon me for a second post. Andy McCarthy´s pal Mark Levin was warning in the primaries that Romney´s brutal methods against his rivals would leave a bad taste in a lot of GOP making it hard to generate real unity. We can´t count too much on the Obama disaster for GOP unity! Also, do you notice we know how to pick a candidate after we pick ourselves. McCain and Romney both picked good VP candidates to make the overall ticket more popular. The best candidate cannot make it to the top of the ticket - their only hope is for 8 years later!

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Posted By: Drive- 4/16/2014 11:20:22 AM     Post Reply
Look, everyone loves Sean Connery, particularly Sean Connery. That’s why he plays Sean Connery in every movie he’s in. People love that Scottish brogue so much, they don’t mind that he has it when he plays Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez, an immortal Spaniard in Highlander. The guy even won an Oscar for playing an Irish cop with a Scottish accent. Talk about sexist double standards: Meryl Streep has to master foreign dialects to get her golden statuettes. Connery just has to show up on time. In economics you devalue a currency by printing too much of it. In film you

White babies just 15 months old show racial
bias when picking playmates, study found

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 10:23:35 PM     Post Reply
Toddlers show racial bias when picking playmates, a study reveals. They also take account of how fairly others behave. Researchers tested the reaction of white 15-month-olds as toys were distributed. Two white adults divided the toys, one equally and the other unequally. Seventy per cent of the toddlers chose to play with the researcher who distributed the toys fairly. But in a second test, when one researcher favoured a white recipient over an Asian one, they picked the ‘fair’ researcher less often, the journal Frontiers in Psychology reports. And the babies are more likely to help those who share the same ethnicity, which is known as

Elizabeth Warren whines about coverage
of her fraudulent Indian claim

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Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:54:52 PM     Post Reply
Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote in her forthcoming book that she was “hurt” and “angry” by 2012 reporting on her fraudulent claim to Native American heritage. “What really threw me, though, were the constant attacks from the other side,” Warren wrote in her book “A Fighting Chance.” “I would almost persuade myself that I was starting to get the hang of full-throttle campaigning and then — bam! Out of left field, the state Republican Party, or the Brown campaign, or some blogger, would launch a rocket at me,” Warren wrote, adding, ”I was stunned by the attacks.” This reporter (blogger?) reported extensively


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