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America has become
an Old World country

Telegraph [UK], by Janet Daley

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 11/11/2012 8:14:53 AM

So Europe got the American president it wanted--the one who would present no threat to its own delusions. The United States is now officially one of us: an Old World country complete with class hatred, ethnic Balkanisation, bourgeois guilt and a paternalist ruling elite. And it is locked into the same death spiral of high public spending and self-defeating wealth redistribution as we are. Welcome to the future, and the beginning of what may turn out to be the terminal decline of the West. It has become clear why it was so easy to misjudge the significance of the apparently

Ms. Daley is (obviously) not a sugar-coater. I admire her pragmatism, even though it makes me physically ill to think about the US becoming the EU. Bush Two was President when I became an American citizen. Had my country been like it is now, I might not have bothered. Perhaps I´ll feel better after a few weeks. Or months. Or maybe not, I don´t know.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: JAN, 11/11/2012 8:29:10 AM     (No. 9006701)

Well said.

We can count on a demonization continuation for the next four years.

Bush´s fault.

Republican´s fault...

Tea Party, all nazi´s....

Congress´ fault......

The CBC is the Simon Legree Brigade of our time. They need to keep the slaves ignorant to preserve their own power.

That any on the republican side would blame ourselves is disgusting and sickening.

If the slave refuses freedom it is not our fault.

I accept NO blame, NONE.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: curious1, 11/11/2012 8:42:31 AM     (No. 9006725)

OP, we´re not finished. If we can get enough people awake to the voter fraud going on and correct it (Note 30 states have pubbie govs now) we can take things back through the ballot box. Failing that, we will take it back through the cartridge box. Granted our country is loaded with ignorant, citified, wussies and some call themselves conservative (yet know next to nothing about duty or honor or a citizen´s responsibilities in this great shining light upon a hill that we call America), but the country was formed through the efforts of ~25% of the populace. And the libtards actively working on our destruction are orders of magnitude fewer (relatively speaking) than what England threw at us back then. You just have to ignore the libtards propaganda as they work to convince everyone ´they won´.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: steveW, 11/11/2012 8:56:49 AM     (No. 9006755)

Excellent piece, with clear insight into the actual intentions of the "progressives" who are dragging the US down, down, down. On purpose.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 11/11/2012 9:02:46 AM     (No. 9006765)

Sorry for 2nd post but I just read a good piece by the Mail´s Simon Heffer:


and was reminded we have the 2014 elections, by which time people will realize what they have let themselves in for. And I also posted the Papa John´s piece, which indicates business owners are not happy (understatement).

#2, Thanks very much for your encouragement, I am truly grateful. I get a bit depressed when I read so many articles early in the morning but by noon, I´m usually in a more optimistic frame of mind.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: MargaretM., 11/11/2012 9:19:50 AM     (No. 9006804)

The distressing part of the link are the comments which dismiss outright the thesis of the author who describes the results by race or ethnicity as they actually occurred. Then the immediate harkening to Clinton´s good economy, no thanks to him or his desires, but to the surge due to Reagan´s efforts and the Republican mid-term stop to his welfare statism.

My very elderly cousin, who is evangelical and listens to ministers preaching about the decline of our culture. She can document why it was occurring, but was still "undecided" two days before the election. I know she voted for Obama because she could not tie the decline to the Democrats and she wanted to make sure her benefits, including subsidized housing, remained intact. So to hell with the society; she has no children to protect.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: charliecoconut, 11/11/2012 9:19:53 AM     (No. 9006805)

It´s a cycle that every civilization has gone through; the Roman Empire, the French Revolution, the fall of the British Empire, the Ming Dynasty, the Hindus, and even the Mayans.

Just because we declared our independence from Europe doesn´t mean that we separated our cultures.

The ruling clans of every society get top heavy from the labors of the underclass and eventually topple to the Barbarians.

It´s simply our time, and after the fall, and the decent into the new dark ages, we will come back as states and tribes made up of individuals who cling together for their own personal protection and mutual benefit.

The Liberal, and the Conservative elite will starve to death from their own lack of survival skills and the spirit that drives the human race will once again be free until they propagate to the unsustainable levels of today.

It´s all about the Darwinian Theory, and it´s unavoidable. In studying zoology one learns that when you put to many monkeys in a cage, the normal societal regimen breaks down to the fundamentals of domination by the most savage. The thinning of the herd will occur, and the first to go will be the elite.

When all of this comes to pass we will once again be visited by a new Charlemagne who will gather the strong and vanquish the dark side for another thousand years thus beginning the cycle once more.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: MargaretM., 11/11/2012 9:28:19 AM     (No. 9006824)

#4 Read Dick Morris´ latest piece:


I don´t think anything short of disaster would cause voters entrenched in their identity politics or dependent on government work or entitlements to vote differently.

Obama was the least presidential president in my long lifetime; he never works, his wife is a grifter; he "rules" rather than executes the laws; the economy continues downward as intended and he won his base.

Whites and people who played by the rules are the stated enemy of this administration and still large numbers of white people voted for him which allows him to import more third-world "Gimmedats" to ensure Democrat rule. 2014 might give us a few Republican members of Congress; if elections are not even more fraudulent than now.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: stablemoney, 11/11/2012 9:38:12 AM     (No. 9006847)

The article correctly indicates that argument or facts did not matter. I don´t think they ever will. The borders are wide open and soon Texas will be blue. Those that have been responsible, worked and saved, a minority, will be redistributed to those that have not.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 11/11/2012 9:44:34 AM     (No. 9006858)

It is hard to come to grips with our future. People I know are talking about a third party, but at this point it is difficult to regroup. In the meantime, a special thanks to Clooney et al for helping to create this demise.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: planetgeo, 11/11/2012 11:48:18 AM     (No. 9007140)

OP, I too am an immigrant who became a US citizen. Unlike you, however, I came from a country that was taken over by communists by force. My experience brings me to an entirely different conclusion about what has happened here and where it is likely to end up.

Europe is made up of people who were content enough not to resist. Those who were not content either died fighting or fled elsewhere, and most prominently to America. So while Europe continues to accept its spiral downward into cultural death, I don´t believe America will.

America is made up of those who will not accept tyranny indefinitely. Resistance is literally in our DNA. The only question is when the overt action, the last straw, or spark will occur. Our first instincts are to let the peaceful options (elections) run their course. But peaceful options are not our only or last options.

The brazen redistribution plans of this regime (and yes, it is a regime and not an administration) will start the sparks flying this coming year. Where those sparks will land, nobody knows. But one thing I´m sure of is that American DNA will somehow be moved to conclusive action.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: toodles3956, 11/11/2012 2:29:21 PM     (No. 9007423)

After Sandy, we can take consolation in the fact our enemies won´t have to nuke us, they can just pull the plug and we are incapable of fixing it.

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