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Christian Right Failed to
Sway Voters on Issues

New York Times, by Laurie Goodstein

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 11/11/2012 4:31:42 AM

Christian conservatives, for more than two decades a pivotal force in American politics, are grappling with Election Day results that repudiated their influence and suggested that the cultural tide — especially on gay issues — has shifted against them. They are reeling not only from the loss of the presidency, but from what many of them see as a rejection of their agenda. They lost fights against same-sex marriage in all four states where it was on the ballot, and saw anti-abortion-rights Senate candidates defeated and two states vote to legalize marijuana for recreational use.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: BcdErick, 11/11/2012 5:12:04 AM     (No. 9006497)

Worthless. It´s the NYT gloating and snarking.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: JLoophole, 11/11/2012 5:26:57 AM     (No. 9006513)

If Christian conservatives or purists did not vote for a Mormon, or for a good man who is too "moderate" for them, then they essentially voted for a man who espouses the views of Jeremiah Wright, one of Louis Farrakhan´s best friends. It absolutely boggles my mind.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: bmw50, 11/11/2012 6:53:04 AM     (No. 9006568)

Brave New World

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Reply 4 - Posted by: olcap, 11/11/2012 7:05:08 AM     (No. 9006579)

Perhaps most voters saw the Christian right being represented by moron politicians, like Akin and Murdoch. It would be difficult for one to not make that association.

Idiotic words emanating from the mouths of those who are extremely stupid have ramifications. That is a fact of life.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: bmw50, 11/11/2012 7:30:38 AM     (No. 9006608)

In the Old Testament, when Israel began to turn away from God and began embracing the Idols of other nations, they didn´t actually abandon God, they still worshiped Him, but started worshiped other gods along with God. They brought other gods along side God, as if to cover all the bases, but never committing to any of them completely.
Because Idols serve man, when the gods of other nations were merged with God, it lowered and devalued God into another servant to man. Instead of the people serving God, God and all other gods became servants of the people; to their desire, wishes and wants. Bad idea!

The majority of Americans who claim to believe in God today, don´t worship Him exclusively. They may believe in Him but they also worship the gods of pleasure, wealth, possessions, entertainment, pride and a host of other self-indulgent gods. Worship of government can also be included in that list, the provider and enabler of a slothful self-indulgent lifestyle.

If this last election is an indicator of anything, it´s an indicator that God has turned America over to its own self-indulgence and the gods that encourage it. God has pulled away from being our servant and retains His positioned of deity, controlling our future.

God says He is a jealous God, he will not tolerate the allegiance to any other gods without discipline or judgment. America wants it all and wants it now and will end up with nothing because the gods it wants to worship are destructive.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: anonymous, 11/11/2012 7:42:10 AM     (No. 9006624)

I think the gay community was well organized and succeeded in painting opponents of gay civil marriage as being opponents of happy families. The liberal mainstream media had a field day with the rape mis-statements from two Republican candidates.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: tennisbum, 11/11/2012 7:55:12 AM     (No. 9006646)

When one has no Christian values, anything goes....see gay marriage, etc. Sadly many churches have decided that the Bible and its teachings are just "suggestions or guides"....see Episcopal church and now many black churches.

The secular and progressives have no real moral compass...."I can do anything I want at anytime."

Those who are Christians and not just Christians in name only will not vacillate nor change their beliefs. The media in this country promote anything but Christian values....tells you alot about the on-air personalities. It is not the Christian right as the headline states. For Christians there is no Tight or Left but just plainly and simply Christian values as stated in the Bible. No such thing as a partial Christian.....I believe in God but I also endorse and support all sorts of behaviors that God finds offensive.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Freeloader, 11/11/2012 8:22:27 AM     (No. 9006688)

Christian Right Ms. Goodstein? In all fairness, shouldn´t you be referring to the Left´s victories on the issues November 6th as wins for "The Heathen Left"?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: civilservant, 11/11/2012 9:01:29 AM     (No. 9006760)

%183 turnout in Port St. Lucie,Fl.
Tough to beat massive, White House coordinated FRAUD, you lefty s cum.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 11/11/2012 9:11:56 AM     (No. 9006783)

FTA - evangelicals voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Romney — even matching the presidential vote of Mormons: 78 percent for Mr. Romney and 21 percent for Mr. Obama

They got their own to the polls, but that was about it.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: MattMusson, 11/11/2012 9:33:02 AM     (No. 9006831)

Blacks abandoned their values and their religion to vote for skin color.

It´s a tribal thang.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: spark29, 11/11/2012 9:56:22 AM     (No. 9006875)

Leave to someone who appears to be liberal Jewess to tell us what the ´Christian Right´ did or didn´t do.

The issues had NOTHING to do with Christianity or Conservatism´s ´right wing´ but has everything to do with common sense, self-responsibility and saving a government from killing itself and it´s citizens.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: FormerDem, 11/11/2012 9:57:58 AM     (No. 9006883)

Why isn´t she working on Benghazi?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Hardright, 11/11/2012 10:06:53 AM     (No. 9006904)

No they didn´t. This country is morally bankrupt thanks to the left.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Vivi, 11/11/2012 10:37:11 AM     (No. 9006980)

The GOP candidates only talked about abortion when asked about it. This campaign should have been strictly about the disastrous math we´re facings as a country. But, that would have worked against Obama so the press changed the subject: Binders, free birth control, the big beloved yellow bird, Senate candidates trying to grapple with ethical abortion issues better suited for an ethics debate at a seminary.

I´m as pro life as anyone. At this point so many millions of women have had abortions, many without a full understanding of what they were agreeing to. I believe the politics of making them examine that choice every election is never going to end well. Those women will understandably cling to the belief that the didn´t end the life of their own child.

And here´s the thing. You can´t unknowingly sin. If they were told by people thy loved and trusted that it was just a blobs of cells then they are blameless. You are responsible to God to the extent which he has revealed himself to you.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: jlw509, 11/11/2012 12:22:18 PM     (No. 9007221)

In the four Ultra-Blue states where pseudomarriage squaked through, the pro-man-woman marriage totals were HIGHER than those of the Republicans at the top of the ticket. Traditional marriage didn´t drag the Republicans down: if they had been "wedded to" real marriage as an issue, they would have improved their totals. The combined voice might even have pulled them over the top.

Same wih prolife. More people claim the "prolife" label than either Democrat or RTepublican. If there were a coherent, strong, confident pro-life, pro-marriage-sanity, pro-fiscal-sanity, no-nonsense ticket I think it could have beat the pants off of Obama-Biden.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Chief1942, 11/11/2012 6:42:50 PM     (No. 9007864)

Those secularists and atheists who are fully onboard with the moral decline of this nation could NEVER be persuaded by anyone of faith, no matter what. Two totally and completely different animals, apples and oranges. It´s certainly not any Christians place or task to "save" anyone nor could they if they so desired. Only the Creator God can do that and He makes it perfectly clear in His word that not all who learn/know about Him will come. He is implicit in His approach to those and it is spelled out very clearly in Romans 1:18-32. Know it and ignore it at your own peril.

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