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Conservatives, Romney Let
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Breitbart's Big Government, by Mike Flynn

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Posted By:Sunhan65, 11/10/2012 2:01:40 PM

My father was an infantry officer in Vietnam, very early in the conflict. He left the theater in 1964, before the massive American military build-up, but could already see the writing on the wall. He remarked to me that he knew we were doomed there when the entire chain-of-command became increasingly obsessed with certain "metrics" and "measurements." It was war by statistics. [Snip] I was reminded by my dad´s story because of a ´narrative´ I heard from Romney´s high command. Friday afternoon, I took part in a conference call with conservative journalists and senior members of the

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: LittleHoodedMonk, 11/10/2012 2:22:14 PM     (No. 9005462)

FTA: ´´But, if you are led by people who neither understand the fight they are in nor understand that you cannot fight a campaign on simple statistics, your overall effort is doomed.´´

As I begin to feel some life back in my numbed mind over this loss, one thing begins to be clear to me. Mitt Romney didn´t want to gets his hands ´´dirty´´ like 0bama does. You can´t rely on slapping your opponent when he sucker punches you at every chance. All I and everyone saw was a good man in a clean suit and tie, who let a childish brawler kick his butt at will, mainly because he had the LSM on his side.

Our good men & women go off to war and sometimes have to do terrible, unmentionable things to win a battle. That we have allowed our leaders to become PC in the GOP will cause US to lose now and in the future. Put military & government lawyers ahead of our troops and see how they respond. A man who doesn´t want to win shouldn´t be on a battlefield.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 11/10/2012 2:27:51 PM     (No. 9005469)

Y´know, I have trouble *believing* a lot of this stuff, because the campaign was headless. They made a decision early in the _primaries_ to say nothing really about any issues, just throw mud at the opposition and be the last man standing. And guess what, it worked in the primaries. So they continued it in the general. Only, they were afraid to really throw mud at Obama. Maybe they convinced themselves they didn´t have to. Obama certainly threw mud at them!

So the thing is, in a campaign with no issues, why should anyone knock on any doors at all, and why should anybody be convinced by a knock on the door anyway? Say this: they went with a concept, and stayed with a concept - and lost with a concept.

GOTV and ORCA were discounted in advance, and maybe didn´t really make a difference anyway, the mistakes were made much earlier and with full participation by the candidate.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: ziel, 11/10/2012 2:33:33 PM     (No. 9005477)

You don´t win playing defense.
after first very good debate Mitt decided to play it safe.
There is no way to win by playing it safe.
After the flop with taxes why did his team started with collage records, Pakistani trip, Rezko, Communist upbringing, corruption etc.
Obama is not a nice guy, let´s say it.
But I do understand, as a very decent man he sees all around him as decent people, it doesn´t work with Chicago tugs.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Namma, 11/10/2012 2:35:04 PM     (No. 9005480)

there was one great big issue...and Romney made it very clear...FREEDOM...freedom from government taking control of your life..or the freedom to live your life...work..and enjoy the fruits of your labor...was enough for many people to vote for him..Love of country...said it all

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Reply 5 - Posted by: harleynyc, 11/10/2012 2:38:14 PM     (No. 9005487)

It was voter fraud. Over 140% voter turnout in St Lucie Cty, Fl. It was a coordinated fraud in all the swing states.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: harleynyc, 11/10/2012 2:40:04 PM     (No. 9005493)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151096160380773&set=a.10150304121645773.343817.58718055772&type=1&theater

Micheal Savage FB page with voter stats, St Lucie, FL.
LCom Staff.
In the future you MUST ask for permission to post from a non-news source. LCom Staff.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: TXknitter, 11/10/2012 2:43:25 PM     (No. 9005498)

The culture. Its not a good and decent culture any longer. We put too much stock in the fact that Romney was a GOOD DECENT QUALIFIED man. In present day America, such people are the stuff of crass jokes, vile insults and outrageous slander. Beyonce and her rapper hubby are the ones hailed and honored! We have to have a candidate who is not only good but tenaciously courageous. A good bit of RR´s political genius was knowing when to go with his OWN gut and tell the consultants and aides to to jump in the river.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 11/10/2012 2:45:55 PM     (No. 9005506)

Please go back and read #3...

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Heil Liberals, 11/10/2012 2:47:00 PM     (No. 9005509)

47% who pay no income tax. 47% whose only personal contact with a federal tax is the payroll tax extracted from every check. 47% whose ranks have swollen with those who have sought refuge in the system after being run over by The Won´s "recovery." 6% who could be bribed with promises of Free, Free, Free. 6% who want to see the rich get soaked because, damn it, it ain´t fair! 6% who put dependency before freedom.

I thought as many other Ldotters did, that people would see the threat that Zero posed to the future of our nation. I was wrong. Too many conservatives stayed home. Too many senseless liberals made it to the voting booth.

The march toward slavery won out over the march toward renewed freedom. That is the choice that was made on November 6.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 11/10/2012 2:49:51 PM     (No. 9005517)

Partly campaign mistakes, but mostly - voters actually like what Obama is doing.
I guess they´ll have to experience the whole weight of liberalism on their shoulders before waking up. That´s what happened in 1980 after 20 years of higher taxes, government-led disasters (like Viet Nam), and reckless social policy.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: janylou, 11/10/2012 2:53:53 PM     (No. 9005522)

This is the same team that helped McPain lose. How many more times are we going to listen to these tools and lose to stop listening?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Pros7767, 11/10/2012 2:58:53 PM     (No. 9005530)

Agree with #6 and no one will convince me otherwise.

That said, I know of a number of people who would have loved to volunteer, but there wasn´t one Romney office in NJ. I ordered sign and decals in September, didn´t get them til late October. Still waiting on the decals.

NJ could have been in play if he tried along with other states as well. Obama couldn´t have set up voter fraud in every state.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: enuf8, 11/10/2012 3:02:16 PM     (No. 9005535)

Voter Fraud in all of the swing states-----need to return to PAPER BALLOTS and VOTER ID. And yes, their needs to be a national list of eligible voters to stop even Democrat candidates from voting in two states. Until this happens, there will be no way to contain the fraudulent votes.
Tens of millions spent on ORCA - just to let them know when someone votes----totally useless and waste of funds. Additionally, Romney has been running for 6 years himself, but he dissed the Conservatives big time. He didn´t use his ads to attack obama like he did his primary opponents, and to top all, may of his ads against primary contenders were less than truthful. The greatest weapon to have used against obama and his Chi-Choom thugs Romney dissed for 4 years--actually before the 2008 election by one of his crew--Kevin Madden. Yes, he made certain to keep his surrogates busy pumping journ-O-Liars (along with obama´s crew) with trash concerning Gov. Palin. He didn´t have the spine or brass balls to go to her on bended knee and beg for her assistance. Distancing himself from Ron Paul instead of approaching him to be inclusive in the campaign did not help.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: federale, 11/10/2012 3:08:14 PM     (No. 9005547)

Should have picked Rubio for V.P.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: gem1400, 11/10/2012 3:16:49 PM     (No. 9005562)

I spent the summer watching obama paint Romney as a country club white man with no response from R2. None. The 47% comment ended any hope of getting Latinos. Really, from my position on the ground, the election was over right there. All our Latino volenteers were gone within the week. It would have been over in Oct if it hadn´t been for the debate, but Romney didn´t go for blood in D2/D3. The campaign didn´t listen to the warnings we were sending them. Thousands showed up for the rallys but apperently voted obama anyway. We TOLD HQ that, they told us we we not credable.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: chumley, 11/10/2012 3:36:57 PM     (No. 9005603)

Flynn makes an interesting observation about the metrics of things. We have become so technological, we measure everything. If we cant assign it a number, we dont believe it.

There is still a place for intuition. Those who have it dont need a number and probably wouldn´t know what to do with it anyway. A good pilot or mechanic might have intuition like that.
Sadly, people who cant explain WHY something is true are often shuffled aside as crackpots, even when they are right. If this article is accurate, he relied too heavily on the science and ignored the gut. It does not seem to have worked.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: buckeye1, 11/10/2012 3:41:49 PM     (No. 9005612)

I live Oregon and my adult daughter now lives with me. She was sent two vote by mail ballots addressed to a former residence that she hasn´t lived at for over seven years! Go figure!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: foggybottom, 11/10/2012 3:44:57 PM     (No. 9005620)

#17 speaks for me. I also hope this was Rove´s last gasp as well.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: jimboendaatl, 11/10/2012 4:15:39 PM     (No. 9005670)

I like Romney, I think he did the best he could and he would have been a great POTUS.

That said, I keep coming back to the same fact that he was not able to take the McCain voters from 2008 and add to that. I just don´t know how that´s possible given the state of the union...unless he was a flawed candidate who no matter how hard he tried would never attract certain voters.

I´d be interested in seeing what the evangelical turn out was for him and how it compared with McCain and Bush.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 11/10/2012 4:19:23 PM     (No. 9005677)

McCain got more votes than Romney.
Palin (and the TEA Party) were responsible in bringing out the votes for McCain.
Palin (and the TEA Party) were shut out of this years convention and campaign.
The Ron Paul conservatives were treated the same.
The Republican elite has let us down two elections in a row. Get rid of Coulter, Rove and the others who endorsed Romney. And Christie isn´t any better. And don´t hold your breath for Rubio either.


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Reply 21 - Posted by: Stopstoreload, 11/10/2012 4:35:48 PM     (No. 9005712)

Have I mentioned that we have a two party system? If you don´t go to the polls and vote for the person who represents your party, the other party wins. Let´s put the blame where it belongs: on people too stupid to live. You knows who you is.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: ocjim, 11/10/2012 5:07:45 PM     (No. 9005759)

We can talk about the incompetance of the campaign team, or Obama´s great turnout machine, or the Black vote or the young women vote...

All of that is secondary. The main cause was all those fair weather Republicans who stayed home because Romney was imperfect or less than inspiring. Those idiots sitting on their hands are looking for their perfect candidate, the return of Reagan, before they get off the couch and go vote. Folks, even Reagan wasn´t Reagan, or at least the mythical Reagan. To all the jerks who sat this one out, good luck waiting for your perfect candidate to get excited about! In the meantime, enjoy your ObamaCare and erosion of liberty, fading great America and tanking economy. You´re idiots!

The perfect remains the enemy of the good.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: thelmalou, 11/10/2012 5:14:27 PM     (No. 9005768)

#21 - Three million less than voted for McCain. Don´t have any documentation, but have heard it multiple times in the last few days.

#3 is exactly right. The voters did this. Those who voted, as well as those who didn´t.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: ocjim, 11/10/2012 5:27:58 PM     (No. 9005789)

And I too would like to see the stats on the Religious Right turnout. I have nothing to go on at this point but I think it´s within the realm of possibility that Romney´s Mormonism was a greater factor in some people´s very quiet, personal decision making. I.E. Not liking Obama of course but troubled by Romney, they sat on the couch rather than go vote. And the obvious result being that the country got hi-jacked by the Far Left for yet another four years, which is unbelievable to even contemplate. Sitting on their hands was a de facto vote for Obama. Don´t they realize this? Any person of the Right who sat this election out was, whether they will admit it or not, out to punish the country. Why? So we´d learn some kind of lesson, or it would serve us right(???) I dunno.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: god of irony, 11/10/2012 5:54:57 PM     (No. 9005866)

For someone who was running as a CEO you can´t really blame the help.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: judy, 11/10/2012 5:58:06 PM     (No. 9005872)

I will never believe the religious right didn´t turn out. I received more mailings & calls than all the previous years combined. Romney´s base was there, something went wrong and I´m very suspicious. I don´t believe the factor about the low mormon turnout. No one ask me when I left the polls if I was a mormon. Romney & Ryan did a great job. Our country will suffer for years. Romney would have made a great president. Just remember for 4 years abccbsnbccnn WP NY Times have not reported anything negative on the won. They should be listed as campaign contributors.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: ocjim, 11/10/2012 6:16:22 PM     (No. 9005920)

Thank you #29, I am befuddled by the low turnout and I was just theorizing @#27 and may well be wrong. Bottom line, we must know the make-up of that couch non-voting block, before we proceed to fix anything. Exactly who on the Right stayed home and why?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: bpl40, 11/10/2012 6:40:55 PM     (No. 9005974)

We will never get anywhere by blaming the voters. IMO after the 2010 success, Beltway Republicans got cocky, started showing their true colors. A systematic effort to denigrate the Tea Party and Conservative grassroots was started. Romney went along with that. His staff excluded all references to Conservative ideology, policies, vision and speakers from the convention. That was not an omission. But a calculated play to get a share of the moderate. minority, female vote assuming that the conservatives grass roots will turn up out of sheer hatred for 0bama. That royally backfired.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: MDConservative, 11/10/2012 6:57:19 PM     (No. 9005999)

FTA: "Young voters, Hispanics and African-Americans all made up a larger share of the electorate than they did four years ago."

Larger SHARE, not larger numbers at the polls. Almost ten million fewer suckers voted for Obama...he was ripe for the picking.

I suspect many figured another four years of Obama was no big deal as we survived the first four. All I can say is "Supreme Court"...there are three conservatives now/soon in the 80s. When that firewall breaks (and let´s not squawk about John Roberts) the game is about over for decades until this batch of wise Latinas, et al, cycles through...and then there are no assurances, either.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: absalom, 11/10/2012 11:49:20 PM     (No. 9006331)

After a particularly egregious French military thrashing, Talleyrand, paraphrased, observed; "It was far, far worse than a defeat. It was a blunder; one that great nations cannot make and remain great". Now, the usual Romney sycophants are out in force pointing fingers. How predictible! Principled conservatives warned in vain from day one that
Dudley-Do-Right, was the wrong man, at the wrong time and in the wrong place. But we were told to shut up and sit down or buzz off. Stone cold reality is simple. Romney never connected w/the working middle class. Not once. They saw his good manners, proper schooling and high breeding stchick as nothing but elitist bs. Being all sail and no anchor, Willard stood for anything, everything and nothing; all in the same sentence; a reality the voters fully internalized. One poster insists that the voters are to blame. Really??? This is the same embarassingly dumb analysis you hear from Corporations who fail in the marketplace, viz; "Customers never understood the greatness of our product. It´s their loss, so shame on them". Sure.

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