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Addresses Fiscal Cliff,
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Video: President Obama
Addresses Fiscal Cliff,
Holds Firm on Tax Hikes

Fox News, by Staff

Original Article

Posted By:KarenJ1, 11/9/2012 1:35:55 PM

Just days after Tuesday’s presidential election, President Barack Obama invited Capitol Hill leaders to the White House for debt and spending meetings next week in order to discuss the country’s looming ‘fiscal cliff.’ On the election, he said that “the American people voted for action, not politics as usual.” (Snip) “You elected us to focus on your job, not ours and in that spirit, I’ve invited leaders of both parties to the White House next week so we can start to build consensus around the challenges that we can only solve together.”

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There is absolutely no difference in what he said four years ago. He "refuses to accept any approach that isn’t balanced." Same code words. He refuses to accept anything that isn't redistribution of wealth.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Dante, 11/9/2012 1:38:10 PM     (No. 9002946)

As usual, Zero speaks and the markets tank.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: mean Gene, 11/9/2012 1:38:29 PM     (No. 9002947)

Obama threw a sound-bite to his stupid media....he is open to new ideas.
Then he buckled down.
The reality?
There's a DEM senate bill he is ready with his pen out to sign.
All Republicans in the House should do is rubber stamp it.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: noproblems, 11/9/2012 1:39:04 PM     (No. 9002950)

No meeting until the Dimms have a proposal on the table! They won, and they need to show everyone what they won for.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ohioTom, 11/9/2012 1:43:39 PM     (No. 9002964)

F*ck him.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: jond, 11/9/2012 1:44:45 PM     (No. 9002967)

Before the Republicans consider any tax increases they should revisit all of the Democrat promises to cut spending going back to GHWB.

Promises from Democrats are shameful to hold.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: surgedr, 11/9/2012 1:45:20 PM     (No. 9002968)

Excellent post #4

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Reply 7 - Posted by: janylou, 11/9/2012 1:48:17 PM     (No. 9002974)

It is time to shut the government down. I have a child in the military and if I have to support her to get her through a shut down, I will. The Republicans need to stand firm. They have been snookered twice already by promises of tax cuts that have never materialized. If they have to spend some of what is left from Romney's war chest to tell the American sheeple that we are broke and the gravy train is over, then do it.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 11/9/2012 1:48:34 PM     (No. 9002975)

Yep. Market turndown. It will be disgusting to see Boehner to BOHICA to BHO.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Stlouislaxbros dad, 11/9/2012 1:48:54 PM     (No. 9002976)


Question:

Is the United States a better place than it was now that Obama has been reelected?

I dare Obama to stop falsely saying that he is for raising the taxes of millionaires and billionaires..and instead...

telling the truth and saying "I...me..Obama..want to raise taxes on those individuals making more than $200,000 and families making more than $250,000.

I double dog dare him. Coward.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 11/9/2012 1:49:46 PM     (No. 9002983)

"I won. Again."

The House of Representatives - not the President - is elected by the American people to tax. The House owns the purse. Let him go over the cliff by himself.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: G2bme, 11/9/2012 1:49:55 PM     (No. 9002984)

The Repubs will cave.....no doubt in my mind. America, the once proud will be a shadow of itself. Get ready for the soup lines.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: TXknitter, 11/9/2012 1:56:25 PM     (No. 9003009)

We need to stop expecting the Republicans to do differently than past behavior indicates - CAVE. Then, of course, they will say they did no such thing. Boehner's FIRST appearance showed he will not stand up to Obama. We can't fix this until we deal with things as they are not as we have kept hoping they will be.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 11/9/2012 1:57:11 PM     (No. 9003013)

He can get screwed. They elected a guy with no interest in governing, brokering deals or compromise (unless it's your compromise). The only things he's good at are demagoguing, lecturing or finger pointing.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Highvoltage, 11/9/2012 1:57:58 PM     (No. 9003015)

Obama is ready now to punish the country for something he has held secret for a long time. We are colonizers and in his view we need to be punished for it.

The punishment will be economic misery for all.

Understand, this is an evil man in his heart.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 11/9/2012 1:58:27 PM     (No. 9003018)

Boehner, IMHO, should address the American people; "Elections have consequences, therefore even though I disagree with the president and think taxing the rich will drive the economy into the tank, I will not stand in the way of his plans." Prove the point once and for all!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: TidalCreekPro, 11/9/2012 2:00:25 PM     (No. 9003025)

AGAIN with the class warfare. The man is a freaking broken record. And he has no new ideas -- in fact, no ideas at all -- about how to help the economy. None. He may have won (via cheating, I'm convinced) the election, but he's still a loser.



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Reply 17 - Posted by: Engrpat, 11/9/2012 2:01:20 PM     (No. 9003029)

Give him what he wants and even more. Let the Bush tax cuts expire on everyone not just the rich. Go for it. We are already a falling off the cliff and the sooner we go the easier the landing. Go for the gold!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: rmsimms, 11/9/2012 2:03:44 PM     (No. 9003034)

If Boehner had any guts he'd let the whole Bush Tax Cut expire.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Evocatus, 11/9/2012 2:04:54 PM     (No. 9003041)

I'm with #4.



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Reply 20 - Posted by: dolphin, 11/9/2012 2:05:44 PM     (No. 9003044)

I was going to listen to that but a nasty noise came on the radio. I had to turn it off. I wonder what it was. It sounded like the earth had opened up and I could hear the devil passing gas.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: sillykay, 11/9/2012 2:05:52 PM     (No. 9003045)

Well put poster # 4

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Reply 22 - Posted by: mws50, 11/9/2012 2:13:54 PM     (No. 9003065)

Let's go over the cliff. Obama said we could!!!

Let all these clueless people know just how much the Bush tax cuts helped them. all the while letting everyone know about all the liberal lies concerning the Bush tax cuts for the rich!!!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: CEP, 11/9/2012 2:14:25 PM     (No. 9003068)

If I was a rich I would take all my money out of the bank put it into some off-shore account and get the heck out of the country. Let the gimme, gimme, gimme crowd figure it out. I'm sick of punishing people for daring to make good for their families and companies. I'm sick of people being demonized for daring to make something of themselves. I'm sick of these freeloading welfare queens and gangsta wanna be's who think that what someone else has is theirs.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: alynnmcw, 11/9/2012 2:17:06 PM     (No. 9003078)

If the majority of people wanted action they would have voted for Romney. They voted for Obama so by default they voted for politics as usual. Barffy has it totally bass ackwards.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: RayLRiv, 11/9/2012 2:18:59 PM     (No. 9003090)

Let. Them. Own. It.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: beveyscool1, 11/9/2012 2:23:59 PM     (No. 9003098)

good Lord, it's going to be another long 4 years. I want my obamaphone now. Santa Barack.....ugh. Good one #4

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Reply 27 - Posted by: enuf8, 11/9/2012 2:24:10 PM     (No. 9003100)

He could experiment raising taxes on his Hollywood celeb friends, Buffet, Soros and the rest of the Dems. He is so entrenched with wealth distribution the logical thing to do is to take from the Dems and redistribute to the rest of us. Now, that is a plan I could approve of.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: texas_gop, 11/9/2012 2:24:50 PM     (No. 9003103)

No, they voted for politics and free stuff. But if you wait long enough Boehner will give you what you want.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: august9, 11/9/2012 2:26:33 PM     (No. 9003107)

This idiot is a narcissistic, stubborn and arrogant fool!

His proposed tax increase on the "wealthy" wound amount to a pimple on an elephant's --- and EVERYONE knows it, yet he insists on it, while asking for compromise.

Additionally, a tax increase on those earning 250k would be the foot in the door, with much more to come shortly thereafter.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: mainecoonmama, 11/9/2012 2:27:33 PM     (No. 9003109)

I want the people that voted for this pig to suffer. I want their taxes to go up so they can't afford whatever their craven little hearts desire. I want the gnashing of teeth and big lips flapping in the breeze. That means me and mine will suffer also, but we'll pool together and get by. The Obama leaches will crumble.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: L.A. Guy, 11/9/2012 2:29:41 PM     (No. 9003117)

More Private Sector Job Losses on the way which HE will be responsible for.

More Federal hiring of UNION (slavemaster) workers to implement Obamascare.

More misery.

If the Federal Government seized all assets of the 1% "Whitey" money, it would cover a few weeks of Government spending.

Increased taxes in whatever form won't put a dent in Federal Debt.





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Reply 32 - Posted by: plex, 11/9/2012 2:39:15 PM     (No. 9003139)

Sadly, moving large amounts of money offshore is not easy, nor cheap.

I tend to agree with the let it go. The GOP should announce loudly that they think that the agenda is wrong and will make matters worse but the voters wanted the Democrat policies so they get them. Any failures of these policies belong totally to the Democrats. Then abstain from voting.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: iamtinman, 11/9/2012 2:40:07 PM     (No. 9003141)

Did anyone with an IQ larger than their shoe size believe that Obamas second term was nothing more than doubling down on his first?

We all are about to reap the whirlwind and it's going to get ugly real quick! Obama and his owners are determined to convert this country into a socialist paradise and unless Congress actually performs its constitutional duty it will happen.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 11/9/2012 2:47:16 PM     (No. 9003152)

To quote Emperor N∅bama:

Nov 5th -- ''I am willing to work with anyone.''

Nov 9th -- ''I won. We will do it my way.''





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Reply 35 - Posted by: cartcart, 11/9/2012 2:50:03 PM     (No. 9003159)

You (many of you) voted for this.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Kurto, 11/9/2012 2:51:11 PM     (No. 9003163)

The Won is out to finish off the nation. If he takes ALL of the income from Whitey, it will not be enough to satisfy the lazy takers. They want it all, and they will not work for anything. Maybe, the Won will fall off his cliff.

Maybe, Boehner will hold the line on taxes. Maybe, Boehner will hold the line on debt. Why do we have this queasy feeling?

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Reply 37 - Posted by: lancelink1, 11/9/2012 2:55:57 PM     (No. 9003180)

Give him anything he asks for. Then let him own it. Maybe then the sheeple will stop bleating for their free stuff when it is obvious to all there is no free stuff anymore.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Pearson365, 11/9/2012 2:56:05 PM     (No. 9003182)

Re: You elected us to focus on your job, not ours

Is that why he spent 3.5 years campaigning for reelection?

Note to Boehner - your House team also won reelection, so ignore Valerie Jarrett and her puppet, Knucklehead Obama. These two are delusional, deceptive and devisive, and they do not have the best interests of the country in mind.


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Reply 39 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 11/9/2012 2:58:19 PM     (No. 9003186)

I am all for standing firm against this Marxist demagogue, as are many others on this board. But the problem with the notion of letting the Won own this mess as he takes us over the cliff is that the MSM will never hold him responsible for the resulting disaster, and he knows it.

So, look at things from Boehner's perspective. He's got two options:

1). Go along with Obama to retain lower tax rates for those not making a helluva lot of money and in many cases are struggling, knowing all along that you are further strangling the job creation engine, or

2) Stand firm, watch EVERYONE go over the fiscal cliff (Obama's not bluffing) and be crucified for it by an MSM which, like it or not, drives public opinion.

That is where we are, friends, and shrill calls to replace Boehner are futile and miss the larger point. The other side has all the weapons.

Whatever happens, don't simply hang it on a couple of politicians. We are in this pickle for a number of reasons which have grown over decades.


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Reply 40 - Posted by: god of irony, 11/9/2012 3:01:40 PM     (No. 9003195)

Every single elected Republican needs to on every single media outlet they can and point out Obama said he would reach out and compromise but instead he lied. Also they need to point out over and over and over that taxing the rich won't produce revenue!

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Reply 41 - Posted by: sunnyday, 11/9/2012 3:10:08 PM     (No. 9003216)

I am with #4.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: nhchemist, 11/9/2012 3:22:26 PM     (No. 9003253)

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.

0bama should be in an insane asylum.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Optimist123, 11/9/2012 3:23:43 PM     (No. 9003260)

The unfortunate joke of this is folks like Romney, who make their money from Captial Gains and donate mega bucks really won't be impacted.

The Soros and Buffets don't earn sallaries. Unless they stop differentiating between wages and dividends/cap gains there will always be a dicrepancy.

In my view, there are two reasons for lower rates on cap gains: 1) taxes have ALREADY been paid; 2) more importantly, to offset for the effects of INFLATION, and we'll see lots of that soon enough.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: judy, 11/9/2012 4:36:08 PM     (No. 9003460)

Raising taxes didn't work toooo well for Calif & Illinois...they are more in debt...the more $$$$ you give DC the more they spend.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: Safari Man, 11/9/2012 6:38:47 PM     (No. 9003749)

Why was this staged like a campaign event?

#4 speaks eloquently.


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Reply 46 - Posted by: nonsense, 11/9/2012 7:09:34 PM     (No. 9003790)

4 more years of the same blather. It is not just the dark side, it is h-e-double-tooth- picks on earth.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: LanieLou, 11/9/2012 7:14:03 PM     (No. 9003795)

Did you notice the crowd of supposedly average citizens standing with Obama? This is his new Hugo Chavez strategery... Whenever he announcing something, he will surround himself with supporters, then send his campaign minions out to punish anyone who speaks against it. Valerie has warned us... no one will stop his agenda.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: xcenturion, 11/9/2012 8:06:53 PM     (No. 9003884)

The next shoe to drop will be Congressional ineffectiveness in standing up to this tyrant. The Republicans will cave.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: 4LadyK, 11/9/2012 8:20:52 PM     (No. 9003907)

I'm with #4, 10,14, 34,and 40. Well said.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: Hamrman, 11/9/2012 8:50:27 PM     (No. 9003969)

He had better stick to hiking his leg up and leave the taxes alone!

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Reply 51 - Posted by: Trigger2, 11/10/2012 4:53:46 AM     (No. 9004447)

If demonrats love tax increases so much, why don´t they propose huge taxes on only and every demonrat alive or in the cemetary?

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I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too


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