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Not The Way Forward
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For Losing Republicans, Moderation
Not The Way Forward

Investor's Business Daily, by Charles Krauthammer

Original Article

Posted By:earlybird, 11/8/2012 10:59:51 PM

They lose and immediately the chorus begins. Republicans must change or die. A rump party of white America, it must adapt to evolving demographics or forever be the minority. The only part of this that is even partially true regards Hispanics. They should be a natural Republican constituency: striving immigrant community, religious, Catholic, family-oriented and socially conservative (on abortion, for example).(Snip)For the party in general, however, the problem is hardly structural. It requires but a single policy change: Border fence plus amnesty. Yes, amnesty. Use the word.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: IdahoSky, 11/8/2012 11:17:32 PM     (No. 9001286)

I am a big fan of Krauthammer's but his explanation sounds a little simple to me.
America rejected Romney for Obama. I freaking don't get it.
Romney is a better man on all fronts than Obama. What the heck happened and what has my country done? Why? I confess, I am baffled and disheartened.


Reply 2 - Posted by: msjena, 11/8/2012 11:40:56 PM     (No. 9001335)

I think Charles is right--not on amnesty necessarily, but on immigration reform. We need to do it and get it out of the way so it won't be an issue in the next election. The Republicans can get a significant share of the Hispanic vote. Bush did it. Krauthammer is right that the Republican have a strong bench of potential candidates, Rubio, Ryan and others.. Who do the Democrats have? Hillary? Biden?(!) They are yesterday's news. Neutralize the immigration issue, get a good talking point on abortion and run on the economy, which is not going to improve unless Obama changes his ways.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: unagator, 11/8/2012 11:57:50 PM     (No. 9001364)

The majority wants enforcement first. Not actual enforcement, with families being broken up on TV...abstract enforcement, where there are no messy details and images.

We need to accept and understand the difference. In this context, Charles makes a lot of sense.


Reply 4 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 11/9/2012 12:02:31 AM     (No. 9001370)

Bendover Boehner has already expressed his willingness to grab his ankles before the end of the year. If the GOP had any guts someone in next year`s congress would challenge his speakership. As long as those old rino white guys are in charge it bad news for our freedoms.


Reply 5 - Posted by: Cortillaen, 11/9/2012 1:22:30 AM     (No. 9001420)

Amnesty, huh? Every conservative who calls for amnesty in any shape or form needs to take a good long look in the mirror. I understand a lot of this is the usual post-election defeat blues, but integrity and character are defined by how we react to exactly this sort of situation. A lot of you are failing the test.

As conservatives, we have all kinds of principles and beliefs, but what is the most important thing, the one that pisses us off more than everything else to see liberals discard? In my opinion, that would be the rule of law. We demand adherence to the Constitution, to constitutionally-valid laws, and to the procedures for creating those laws. So why the hell am I listening to supposed conservatives, not just here, but all over the web, call for us to discard sacred laws governing entrance to our nation and what is required to legally reside here?


Reply 6 - Posted by: Cortillaen, 11/9/2012 1:22:38 AM     (No. 9001421)

Does this loss, one that was a result of fraud on our opponent's part, failures on our own part (ORCA, anyone?), and random chance (like it or not, Sandy played a huge role) really hurt that much? Is this all it takes to abandon the rule of law we supposedly believe in? Is conservatism so fragile, so weak-willed that it will sell its soul for the same political advantage of identity politics our opponents use? Are we that desperate to pander to any one group in an increasingly balkanized nation that we are going to simply accept the playing field the liberals give us and choose only between defeat or selling out the core of what we stand for? We should be looking for ways to change the game, and instead we are talking about how best to give up the fight, give up our integrity, and walk into a future where politics truly is a soulless power struggle where every option is as bad as the next.


Reply 7 - Posted by: Mike PHX, 11/9/2012 2:33:34 AM     (No. 9001456)

I vote amnesty for everyone but the Irish.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: pineledger, 11/9/2012 3:39:57 AM     (No. 9001491)

Our country has passed up a golden opportunity. I feel as though I am living in the wrong time in the wrong country.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Udanja99, 11/9/2012 3:42:22 AM     (No. 9001494)

Even Hannity is now talking "path to citizenship". Hispanics voted immigration over Catholicism. In 10 years, we won't recognize this country at all. We'll be the United States of Muslims/Mexicans.

Costa Rica is looking pretty good to me. I can retire as a beach bum with a lot of other former Americans.


Reply 10 - Posted by: steveW, 11/9/2012 4:25:50 AM     (No. 9001513)

"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" - Robert Heinlein

Let us at least congratulate the public schools, academia and, above all, the MSM, for successfully producing multiple generations of citizens breathtakingly stupid enough to vote - twice! - for a fraud like Barack Obama. Their undertaking, to replace intelligence and common sense in the citizenry with the empty mind rot of political correctness, was daunting - but they have succeeded. Succeeded beyond anyone's wildest hopes, or fears.

"Moderation" can now only mean: dumbing down to their level. Count me out.


Reply 11 - Posted by: beamer, 11/9/2012 5:10:24 AM     (No. 9001524)

Most Americans are basically conservative, decent and honest. There is no need to imitate the Democrats. They tend to be corrupt and dishonest. They lie!


Reply 12 - Posted by: frenesi1, 11/9/2012 6:25:19 AM     (No. 9001575)

If Hispanics had the same values as Republicans, they would vote Republican. I am tired of hearing how they are a natural fit for Republicans because of their values. How do you support border jumping over partial birth abortion. I am leaving the Republican party because they are caving to immigration and Obama care.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 11/9/2012 6:56:12 AM     (No. 9001625)

Immigration reform will turn FL, AZ, CO, NV permanently Blue. At that point future elections won't matter much. Questions?
I'd rather they cave on taxes. Lets soak the rich and see how bad the economy can get before the 2014 elections. This is the only way to save the country. Immigration reform will be the final nail in the coffin. Take a look at how Latin American countries are governed. Obama is probably not communist enough for them.


Reply 14 - Posted by: bighambone, 11/9/2012 8:57:20 AM     (No. 9001948)

The reason that the liberal Democrats are pushing "a path to citizenship" amnesty for 12-20 million illegal aliens is so that they can eventually grant the legalized aliens duel nationality status with US voting rights.

The highly partisan liberal Democrats would not be doing that if they ever thought that this potential new foreign born ethnic voter bloc would ever have an epiphany and vote for conservative Republicans in any numbers worth talking about. By going along with such a liberal Democrat inspired amnesty the Republicans would be committing long-term political suicide by handing the liberal Democrats millions of new voters.

The only sort of legalization program that the Republicans should consider is one where whatever illegal aliens are deemed qualified are granted a temporary immigration status similar to a "guest worker" status with an indefinite work permit and the ability to come and go from the USA. Most working illegal aliens would be satisfied with that, but the liberal Democrats and their allies the Hispanic activists would not.

With such a temporary status, qualified illegal aliens would be granted a "safe harbor" here and until, if they wished, to apply for permanent residence by meeting the same requirements for an immigrant visa that legal immigrants must do now. That is only fair.

Since there is no indication that the liberal Democrats intend to stop obstructing, opposing, and sabotaging all effective immigration law enforcement measures there is little doubt that whatever level of amnesty is agreed to, that it will encourage more mass uncontrolled illegal immigration.


Reply 15 - Posted by: Stopstoreload, 11/9/2012 9:35:15 AM     (No. 9002092)

The concept of amnesty is simple: You knowingly, wilfully broke our laws, but we won't punish you. Sounds like a winner (?). That should attract a lot of engineers and Rhodes Scholars.



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