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Topic: GOP Turns Sure Victory into Defeat |
GOP Turns Sure Victory into Defeat
Townhall, by Michael Reagan
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Posted By:lasvegaslou, 11/8/2012 1:36:10 PM
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| Wait until next year -- 2016, that is. That’s what disappointed Republican spinners kept saying Tuesday night as they watched Mitt Romney’s hopes crash and burn in swing state after swing state. How many times did I hear a Republican talk about how their party’s deep bench of future all-stars will return it to power in Washington in four years? But all the Ryans, Rubios, Bushes, Haleys and Christies in America can’t put the GOP -- or the country -- back together again.
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Comments: I've never been a big Michael Reagan fan but he's dead on the mark here. I guess the RINO establishment will most likely run Christe and/or Jeb Bush in 2016. It's his turn. That is if there is an election in 2016
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
youngtexan, 11/8/2012 1:43:50 PM (No. 8999924)
The only reason why I wanted Romney to win is to get Obama out. I really don't trust anyone. The GOP party left us, we didn't leave them.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
yuban, 11/8/2012 1:45:19 PM (No. 8999931)
The GOP moved Left. I haven't moved more Right.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
mfm, 11/8/2012 1:46:05 PM (No. 8999935)
Bingo, the article and the comments!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
GreatGreyhounds, 11/8/2012 1:53:07 PM (No. 8999948)
Still waiting for a Reagan Conservative again... Hopefully, there's more than one!
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
TruthandJustice, 11/8/2012 2:02:03 PM (No. 8999970)
It's not simply how conservative...there was no red meat...Get another Casey to run the campaign...and had they outed Obama's policies...his racism..his racist pastor and his odd program's...his Communist missile running connected to the Muders in Benghazi...Had they run an ad showing Obama and Hillary eating popcorn in the situation room while our Aambassador was raped and our military Seals were murdered after a 7 hour fire fight....Had they simply shown the Polish cab opined shot down by Puting and run FLEXABILITY? FLEXABILITY ? For what????
We need a conservative who rejects Poloitically correct language and laughs at those who look to impose it ...
The country was worth a dam dirty flight ...and fighting back...
Mitt was a good man but not a street fighter...you cannot let the opposition put us in a pink dress...which was so laughable coming from the opposition... as Larry Sinclair might agree
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
gramma b, 11/8/2012 2:03:50 PM (No. 8999975)
On the one hand, Mike Reagan says Romney should have preached more real conservatism. On the other hand, he acknowledges that Obama won by promising handouts. Romney did the best he could by preaching opportunity. But, when the remarks came out about the 47 percent, he got pounded, didn't he? The problem is what Rush said. We have a country now where the majority thinks it is the government's job to take care of them.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
TruthandJustice, 11/8/2012 2:03:51 PM (No. 8999976)
Thats "the Polish cabinet shot down by Putin"
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
dman, 11/8/2012 2:04:24 PM (No. 8999977)
We know what must be done. Who will lead us to do it?
The Republican brand is tarnished as the 'party of the rich'. That alone puts the party behind in general elections. Add to that the 'play it safe' mindset that dominates party gurus and advisers, and every election is an uphill climb. Democrats claim that they are really the party of the 'middle-class', and many voters believe it.
What is needed is a new party that genuinely represents the middle-class. The 'big tent' model must be abandoned. Political specialization is the future. Choose a demographic model, and represent it well. Draw from both of the existing parties. A multi-party Congress will result, and rule changes to reflect that structure will be made. No party will hold an outright majority, forcing the compromise that voters seek. No more Harry Reid's with dictatorial power. Finally, the middle-class will have its own voice, not to be suppressed by other interests. This model would be more in keeping to what the Framers originally intended.
This transition needs leadership. Who will step forward to do it?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
god of irony, 11/8/2012 2:08:10 PM (No. 8999990)
Really? Perhaps Michael Reagan can give us the lottery numbers for last month's powerball. Where was this opinion when it mattered.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
envirodude, 11/8/2012 2:12:37 PM (No. 9000000)
IMO, the republican party is done. They will linger for another couple of decades primarily in fly over country. But the days where they will put an R in the white house are done and over with. If they do win, it will be because they follow the democrats by giving away free stuff to all that don't want to earn it.
And when that happens, calling them R's will not make them R's.
America as I grew up died this week. We are now the New United Socialist States of Amerika. The democrats know it and worked it.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Burger, 11/8/2012 2:17:53 PM (No. 9000018)
Since GOP proved that they are unable to defeat even a weak president, what good are they? No Good At All.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
WestCoastCowboy, 11/8/2012 2:20:25 PM (No. 9000022)
Reps need to run more Murdocks and Akins, those guys were true conservatives. They won in landslides, oh never mind. You see the issue isn't as easy as Rhino vs Conservative.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Chief1942, 11/8/2012 2:29:26 PM (No. 9000046)
GOP is dead meat! I left that party a decade ago because they left their conservative roots. They also left their spines in the drawer as well.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
curious1, 11/8/2012 2:33:02 PM (No. 9000063)
The issue is the libtard/communist control of the media, education and political arenas. The vote fraud performed by the libtards to win this election should make that clear. The soap box and ballot box stages are just about over. The next box is what it appears it will take to remove the barbarians within this Republic's gates. And remember, 50% of the citizens didn't vote for the libtards, only 50% of the about 50% of eligible voters, so that means the weasels won with less than30% of American citizen support. They are out-numbered. Don't believe their propaganda spewed by their media propaganda arm, known as the LSM or alphabet networks, etc.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
St. Pitbull, 11/8/2012 2:44:17 PM (No. 9000107)
GREAT article. I agree with every point and would like to add: - An R trying to turn "moderate" keeps conservatives from voting. Look at the lower turn-out! What more needs to be said. - George W. did NOTHING to halt the increase in voter fraud. This is something that can be laid directly at his feet. Does anyone really believe that Philly had 99% turn-out in several districts? Especially when considering that a hurricane had just blown through. Why are there not more articles on the voter fraud? I would not be surprised if there were several million R votes that were never counted. - Romney didn't fight when he needed to - instead, he looked disappointed. And we were told all along that he would get alley-dog mean. - the way that the R's eviscerated themselves in the primaries was especially disappointing. - why isn't John Cornyn getting his butt spanked? - This should have been a cake walk!
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
kono, 11/8/2012 3:39:12 PM (No. 9000270)
None of this matters when the enemedia manage their coverage (and non-coverage) of political matters with a goal of promoting Progressivism and Secular-Left candidates.
Green Bay Packers fans saw a "sure victory" against the Seattle Seahawks in that final replacement-refs game, too....
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
TheMotherCO, 11/8/2012 4:00:29 PM (No. 9000342)
Read the article and baby mike has always been a look at me not my Dad type. Try away at a third party and guess what, you will have full time bammyears. He will make the prez position a forever one and sit on the throne with reggie. Mitt did very well, but the people have given up voting when all they hear is their Republicans being disses. I am also not convinced that there was not some tampering going on.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
901AtTheRiver, 11/8/2012 4:22:07 PM (No. 9000398)
Thank you Michael. The only real Reagan conservative we have is a Reagan. Your work is cut out for you.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
TXknitter, 11/8/2012 4:39:43 PM (No. 9000426)
With very much respect, #6, that is the problem. When "remarks came out about the 47%," Mitt got pounded. So what???? So you quit and back off? Candy Crowley helps O embarrass Mitt about Libya during second debate, so Mitt abandonsthe Benghazi issue? As long as our side does this, why should Democrats change tactics? Reagan was a leader. A fighter. With the establishment and the libs AND no FOX NEWS, he passionately fought for us.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
NYbob, 11/8/2012 5:29:03 PM (No. 9000553)
I'd love a happy warrior who lived their message and doesn't apologize for their life. Someone who doesn't turn their cheek in the face of rudeness, lies, or aggression. Someone to take a challenge to the pandering, politically correct professional racists and fans of socialism/communism. Not angry, but firm, confident and with a ready sense of humor and irony. They would have to have a minimum level of understanding about the media and how to reflect the edits and the traps back on them or at least know how to defuse them. That would be a leader for the ages and I don't care what their background was or race or sex, but that would just be the start of restoring sanity to our culture.
Without a serious legal machine, ground game and public relations effort to make EVERY election process fraud free, this ideal candidate will lose even if they win. I'd start all of this with ONE person in America who would be unrelenting in their determination to make sure active military who risk their lives for us, vote FIRST.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
yorkiemom, 11/8/2012 5:57:38 PM (No. 9000612)
#15 hit on a big reason for the loss. Where are all of the Dem votes? In the large cities where they can cheat like crazy. Did anyone else hear Michael Barone say Cincinnati or another large state usually reports in late on election night. It's a matter of "how many votes are you short and how many do you need?" Those are the places Republicans always lose, even Ronald Reagan can't fight that. And wasn't it convenient that the election was lost in almost all of the battleground states in the large cities? My, my, my, what a coincidence.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
judy, 11/8/2012 6:05:28 PM (No. 9000626)
When repubs lose they act as adults...can you imagine how the left would have acted if the won had lost..
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
mominNoCA, 11/8/2012 6:07:19 PM (No. 9000631)
West/Ryan or Ryan/West would be my dream ticket for '16. I hope the Dims run Biden because it's "his turn". He'll be a nightmare for his handlers and the press who try to make him look normal.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Stopstoreload, 11/8/2012 8:40:30 PM (No. 9000933)
"We have met the enemy and it is us." (Pogo.)
Don't blame Romney. He is a very fine person, with principles, executive experience, governmental experience, admirable religious orientation and a lifetime record of charitable acts, everything his opponent lacked. We stood by and let him be smeared by people with none of those traits.
Why? Because we let stupid, uninformed, half fast people vote, for candidates who had not a prayer in this world of winning, for total non entities, or not vote for whatever nonsensical reason whatsoever. They are out there and we are stuck with them. There is nothing "sure" about victory, anymore than there is anything sure about the survival of this great experiment in representative government.
I am embarrassed for us.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
King of all trolls, 11/8/2012 9:02:16 PM (No. 9000994)
I'm trying to get my head around the idea that if Romney had run farther right he would have won in a landslide. Alan West was defeated. Grayson returned. Some transsexual was elected in AZ. WA and CO legalized dope. What the he double hockey sticks are ya'll smoking. The electorate wants liberalism. We're out numbered. Even the Amish have a reality show for crying out loud. If your into principle, I'm cool with that at this point but please don't tell me Palin would have gotten 300 electoral votes cause y'all are just insulting my intelligence.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
kono, 11/9/2012 10:29:41 AM (No. 9002291)
#25: " If your into principle, I'm cool with that at this point but please don't tell me Palin would have gotten 300 electoral votes cause y'all are just insulting my intelligence. "
Ok, I won't insult you're intelligence ahem. Some might wonder, though, whether you think making a remark more aggressively somehow makes it more persuasive...
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
lasvegaslou, 11/10/2012 9:12:45 AM (No. 9004808)
Is everyone certain that the Dems didn´t somehow manage to disappear 3 or 4 million Republican votes in select states? I´m not - but then I´m paranoid when it comes to politics and online poker.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
49 Ford, 11/10/2012 10:01:46 AM (No. 9004933)
With the benefit of hindsight we can see that the Romney campaign made a few key mistakes. But a larger question to me at this point is whether or not Mitt would have been able to govern had he won by a point or two.
That rodent dropping named Harry Reid would have shortstopped every economic or tax proposal, every effort to repeal ObamaCare, and every important judicial nominee. He and the crapweasel Schumer would have been at the microphones every day decrying Romney´s "right wing extremism", and the MSM would have lapped it up and framed every issue as their Democrat masters presented it. We the sensible people might have gotten a two or three year reprieve from our fate, but nothing more.
As an earlier poster said, a majority of voting Americans have chosen straight-ahead socialism even if they didn´t fully understand what they were doing. We have to live with their idiocy and make our own plans and adaptations.
And one more thing: no one great individual will emerge to save us from this. That´s not how it works. The courts are gone, the Constitution is a dead letter and a majority of the American voting public doesn´t know that and couldn´t care less. The rubicon has been crossed, and there ain´t no goin´ back.
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