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GOP needs a facelift
Boston Herald, by Joe Battenfeld

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Posted By:Vastrightwingconspirator, 11/7/2012 3:21:19 AM

Republicans had everything going for them. A horrible economy. A weak incumbent. Motivated voters. Now it’s time for the GOP to face reality and clean house. They need a new message, and new messengers. Republicans and Mitt Romney have only themselves to blame for their staggering defeat. It wasn’t Sandy’s fault, Candy Crowley’s fault or Chris Christie’s fault. There are some glaring reasons why President Obama won re-election. Now GOP leaders have to learn the lessons from this debacle. The biggest issue the party faces is winning back women. GOP candidates once again

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Reply 1 - Posted by: hammondb3, 11/7/2012 3:28:20 AM     (No. 8995070)

No.

The American people need an education.


Reply 2 - Posted by: steveW, 11/7/2012 3:39:55 AM     (No. 8995079)

Now the lying, cover-up court eunuchs who helped deceive the nation into retaining the Marxist they so dishonestly and illegally colluded with - now they dare come out and blame the GOP? I hope everyone has stocked up on barf bags.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: LanieLou, 11/7/2012 3:42:02 AM     (No. 8995082)

Being defined by progressives in the MSM as the 1%, anti-woman, homophobic, racists was the problem. Evil, lying nasty cheaters was the problem.

Give Pubis job to Rubio. He has a chance to re-define our platform in simpler terms...


Reply 4 - Posted by: RosietheObserver, 11/7/2012 3:45:06 AM     (No. 8995085)

Poor Obama. He's inherited a real mess. s/o

Romney was our last hope, but the press would have sabotaged him and the Dims would have screamed at every tiny thing trying to make "scandals" after four years of covering up real ones. Maybe God will transform this horrible event into something good.. Maybe Obama and all his cronies (press included) will destroy themselves.

Meanwhile, America needs to start educating its children again and putting God in the center of everything again, as it was meant to be.


Reply 5 - Posted by: alto, 11/7/2012 3:45:48 AM     (No. 8995086)

#1 I agree. No to illegals. They broke the law as their first act. If I break into your home, may I just stay and take your stuff , Appeal to soft-minded women by giving/doing what? Nothing but a slap to smart women everywhere. Nothing but a slap to all who play by the rule of law.
No thanks.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Mike PHX, 11/7/2012 3:52:27 AM     (No. 8995089)

F U, you fat POS. I'll take advice from an ugly
Porker like Battenfeld when I decide I'll join Jenny with Roseanne as my sponsor.


Reply 7 - Posted by: lindamay, 11/7/2012 3:52:41 AM     (No. 8995091)

I don't think we need a facelift. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan would have made a wonderful team in the White House. They are decent men with keen knowledge and a viable vision about what is wrong with our economy and how to fix it. What does this author want? Some rock star with a progressive message? We are a nation divided and 'there's the rub.'


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: CEP, 11/7/2012 4:01:45 AM     (No. 8995098)

Agree #7, Romney and Ryan were what this country needed. Maybe what needs fixing are those citizens who think they should have everything free. That is the mindset that needs fixing. BTW, Obama voters are going to demand facelifts and how dare you say the GOP needs one.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Burger, 11/7/2012 4:13:12 AM     (No. 8995103)

Let's see, the Moderate George W. Bush's Legacy haunts us to this day, the Moderate John McCain lost, and the Uber Moderate Mitt Romney lost, and the advice is we need to moderate even more?


Reply 10 - Posted by: beancounter, 11/7/2012 4:17:29 AM     (No. 8995107)

So the problem with the GOP is that they're not more like the Democrats?

Who is going to buy the knock-off when they can get the real deal: full amnesty, subsidized abortion on demand, etc?

Better to let the liberals be crushed under the weight of their own policies (how cheap is giving 20 million people social security and Medicare going to be?)

We have to look at elections long term.


Reply 11 - Posted by: lindamay, 11/7/2012 4:19:14 AM     (No. 8995108)

Furthermore, we did not "have everything going for us." We did not have a lying press willing to cover up and distort the truth. We did not have a legion of poll fixers to cheat the vote. We did not have a World hierarchy filling our coffers. We did not buy the votes of illegals and the poor. We did not have union thugs to strongarm members and do dirty deeds. No, we only had 50 million tax paying citizens who believe in the rightness of the American way as it should be and two candidates willing to work hard to straighten out a terrible mess. God help us.


Reply 12 - Posted by: beth, 11/7/2012 4:35:02 AM     (No. 8995115)

We need to become stronger in our conservative outreach, not weaker. There will be no reason for social conservatives to vote if we don't. Not all conservatives are wealthy, and without the social issues they will have no reason to vote for either party, or they may decide to vote for the Democrats because they promise more.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: Udanja99, 11/7/2012 4:35:57 AM     (No. 8995116)

I'm beginning to think the best thing to do is to shut down DC permanently. Things couldn't be any worse with no government than they are with the government we have now.

I'm about to go Galt.

Note to self - buy more ammo while I still can.


Reply 14 - Posted by: JLoophole, 11/7/2012 4:43:03 AM     (No. 8995121)

#11, very well said.


Reply 15 - Posted by: neanderthal, 11/7/2012 4:45:18 AM     (No. 8995123)

No. Not true. I've been telling you people for years that the only thing that counts is the percentage of the people either on welfare or keeping government office chairs warm. That's all that counts. If you think this election was bad, wait and see what four years of adding new millions onto welfare and more millions into the thousands of bureaucracies can do to elections.


Reply 16 - Posted by: Spidey, 11/7/2012 4:50:53 AM     (No. 8995125)

I don't want to hear all these right wing recriminations they're going to throw at us.If you can't win on reviving the private sector and paring down the deficit,there's no other way to win. Nobody feels a sense of panic with Obama because the media doesn't say what's at stake. To say republicans need to be more like dems is ludicrous,there's no point in having 2 parties.

When you're down to a paltry 112,000,000 people in the workforce while Obama's bragging about 5 million new jobs,it exposes the true disconnect between reality and fantasy in this country.

This wasn't a victory for dem ideas,it was the left's ability to spread their new citizens around to swing states.


Reply 17 - Posted by: gramma b, 11/7/2012 4:53:03 AM     (No. 8995126)

You can't lure women and Latinos without promising them stuff that other people have to pay for. The American dream is dead.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 11/7/2012 5:12:02 AM     (No. 8995131)

To think that there are people stupid and cruel enough to vote to put that sorry sob back in office is eye opening. The dumbing down of some people is complete. We have a second term prez that let Americans die while he made phone calls and went to Vegas, the filth that has another 4 years will bankrupt the USA and anything else he can do. I guess I am not a good sport.


Reply 19 - Posted by: mgwitt, 11/7/2012 5:24:21 AM     (No. 8995138)

With the support Obama got, who is to say we only have four more years to endure? Obama may be president for 20 more years. God help us.


Reply 20 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 11/7/2012 5:34:04 AM     (No. 8995146)

Four more years? Is there room in Canada?


Reply 21 - Posted by: steveracer, 11/7/2012 5:53:24 AM     (No. 8995159)

I think Repubs need more Ed Gillespies. Yeah more Ed Gillespies.


Reply 22 - Posted by: neanderthal, 11/7/2012 5:56:10 AM     (No. 8995161)

There's room in Canada, but it's a lot warmer in Chile, Argentina,Uruguay, Bulgaria, Singapore, and Thailand.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: OhMy, 11/7/2012 5:56:23 AM     (No. 8995162)

GOP facelift - there was already huge pressure for a third party but everyone stayed put because of the importance of beating Obama. The establishment got their candidate and the co-operation of all the membership. Romney didn't do anything to scare the precious independents or say anything radical. The only thing the GOP has now is the house and it's leadership. Will they do the only thing they can do and not increase the debt limit one penny-and explain why! Their gutless leadership will fold again and Obama will continue having flexibility to destroy everything that is left.


Reply 24 - Posted by: awen, 11/7/2012 6:00:52 AM     (No. 8995166)

I didn't sleep last night. I am a single woman who works very hard to support herself, working in a business service industry. Unless some sort of miracle happens, the deals we had in the pipeline will dry up as businesses shrink and begin to fold. God is my provider so I am not in complete despair.

What has me grieved to the core of my being is the moral implications of the election and the proof of the complete erosion of America's moral fiber. No matter how I choose to live my life, I will be paying for the behavior of others and to support them in their livestyles - I will be working hard so that other women can murder their children.

America as I loved it no longer, and I am desperately grieved that we are soon to become like Europe.


Reply 25 - Posted by: STLstudent, 11/7/2012 6:08:14 AM     (No. 8995173)

Is secession an option?


Reply 26 - Posted by: MinnesotaWild(man), 11/7/2012 6:20:34 AM     (No. 8995189)

7/11 spot on.


Reply 27 - Posted by: Judith, 11/7/2012 6:30:31 AM     (No. 8995201)

Typical ma idiot. The republicans have to be more like the dems in order to get elected. Believe me, Brown ran as a liberal dem in this state and he lost. Being more like the insane liberals (they really are nutty as a nutbasket in this state)is not the answer.
Unfortunately, for my country, the teachers did not teach their students that socialism has a LOOOONG history of failure.
What states are the sane citizens of this country escaping to this morning?


Reply 28 - Posted by: Dio444, 11/7/2012 7:00:37 AM     (No. 8995247)

A country where secularism is on the rise, where gay marriage continues its slow ascent, where recreational(!) pot has been approved in a large state, is not a conservative nation.


Reply 29 - Posted by: nonsense, 11/7/2012 7:02:17 AM     (No. 8995253)

Isn't she just the icing on the cake of the complete destruction of this country.


Reply 30 - Posted by: veritasmatters, 11/7/2012 7:08:26 AM     (No. 8995266)

Well said, #24...my stomach is in knots...but I know that Truth eventually overcomes...problem is how long?? My lifetime or my grandchildren's???? longer?


Reply 31 - Posted by: dman, 11/7/2012 7:14:46 AM     (No. 8995280)

We got our "education", #1. The GOP is a Loser. It's time for a new party. Country-clubbers abd Wall-Streeters need not apply. You are Losers.


Reply 32 - Posted by: wordstress, 11/7/2012 7:24:31 AM     (No. 8995307)

This article is ridiculous. Republicans are not the problem. They are our best hope for saving the republic. It does no good to win an election if you've lost your principles.


Reply 33 - Posted by: god of irony, 11/7/2012 7:45:19 AM     (No. 8995370)

What we need is:

1)Replace leadership with unafraid conservatives
2) Constant education on conservatism
3) Go after the media
4) Fight like hell


Reply 34 - Posted by: Rinktum, 11/7/2012 7:52:07 AM     (No. 8995391)

The only problem I see is that some of our elected Republicans failed in their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, domestic and foreign. When they chose compromise instead of pushing back against attacks on our founding principles, it was a slippery slide into the chaos we face today. When they chose cronyism and wealth accumulation as a perk of their position in government, integrity and honor took a nose dive. Normal everyday working Americans stood up and shouted, No more, and the Tea Party was born. Last night we were knocked back on our heels. I see no chance of change until we see leaders who will stand up to this administration and fight for freedom. Gov. Romney fought the fight with honor and courage and God bless him for it. It broke my heart to see him lose because It made me realize that our best hope to turn this around had slipped through our fingers. Now we must travel the hard road.


Reply 35 - Posted by: rabbit, 11/7/2012 8:00:30 AM     (No. 8995413)

Sorry guys, but this woman thinks the message in this article is an important one. Yes, the Dems were silly to portray Republicans as anti-woman, but the Republican attempt to win back women was disgraceful. I cringed when Ann Romney stood at the convention shouting, "We love women!" You don't win women by telling them you love them; you win them by specifically saying how your policies will be better for them.

Women generally are the caregivers - for themselves, their children, their elderly parents, etc. The GOP never addressed their issues, frightened away by the false issue of Sandra Fluke. The GOP highlighted women at the convention (which only Republicans watched)...and then hid them away. Mia Love, Kelly Ayotte - dynamite! Where were they after the convention?


Reply 36 - Posted by: Namma, 11/7/2012 8:16:32 AM     (No. 8995463)

#11 said it all....
we also need to get back to voting on ELECTION DAY...paper ballots and voter ID

but now that we live in a dictatorship we wont have to worry about voter fraud anymore..huh


Reply 37 - Posted by: virbots, 11/7/2012 8:57:33 AM     (No. 8995642)

Romney's campaign was based entirely on the premise that the economy is in shambles. But the fact is, the economy has been building; slowly, but building, for at least the last year. And our side chose to dismiss the facts as lies by the bureau of labor and statistics, even though there was no evidence of that.


Reply 38 - Posted by: homerfats, 11/7/2012 9:07:44 AM     (No. 8995695)

#33, and to all of you who want to fight harder with more truth, logic and character: it will not work.

The vote totals prove that the majority of the electorate vote their feelings, and not what is right.

Therefore we have only two options left:

1. Battle on a purely emotional and irrational basis - not easy to do for those of us who use their brains for intellect and not involuntary life support.

2. Crash the System - Going Galt won't do it alone. It will take a coordinated effort by all to quickly bring about insolvency and collapse.

Sad days ahead regardless of which strategy is pursued.

Our Lord is in charge, so fear not. Faith in him will never leave you destitute of purpose or hope.


Reply 39 - Posted by: stablemoney, 11/7/2012 9:15:54 AM     (No. 8995722)

We don't need a new message. We need to separate from blue states.


Reply 40 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 11/7/2012 9:35:22 AM     (No. 8995790)

What #39 said.


Reply 41 - Posted by: lylacat, 11/7/2012 9:43:48 AM     (No. 8995822)

John Boehner has to go; he is ineffective as a leader; people do not respect him.


Reply 42 - Posted by: gobushcheneygo, 11/7/2012 9:49:34 AM     (No. 8995841)

It doesn't matter what the Republican Party does or doesn't do or whether 80% of the population votes for Republicans if the vote counters are ready and willing to commit voter fraud. The fix was in. That's why Zero didn't care how he performed in the debates and why he was so lazy except for partying with JayZ and Beyonce. He didn't care about the massive crowds showing up for Romney/Ryan. He knew the fix was in. And it's only going to be worse in the future. Only God can turn this ship around.


Reply 43 - Posted by: bighambone, 11/7/2012 12:40:59 PM     (No. 8996660)

If the wimpy Republicans now cave and allow another liberal Democrat amnesty and "path to citizenship" for up to 20 million illegal aliens, who would then gain the immediate right to bring many additional foreign family members into the USA, and who once they get US voting rights will absolutely vote in overwhelming numbers for the liberal Democrats, how is that going to help the wimpy Republicans win future elections?



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