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Brit Hume on presidential polling:
‘There’s something wrong here’

Daily Caller, by Jeff Poor

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Posted By:Photoonist, 11/6/2012 12:56:42 AM

On FNC’s “Special Report” Monday night, Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume said that many mainstream polls — which appear to indicate President Barack Obama will win a second term — may be fundamentally flawed. “My sense about this is fairly simple,” Hume said. “We’re looking at a national race, which is, for all intents and purposes, tied. We are looking at a set of state polls in the battleground states that suggests President Obama is leading — he is leading in most of these polls. And most reporters would look at that and say, ‘Well, if that’s the

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The numbers on many of the polls just haven't added up. On the one hand they say that Republican turnout will be higher and on the other hand simultaneously to get their results they are assuming a greater Democrat turnout than in 2010 and even 2008. See also 'photo of the day' in that article. NOTE: there is a rumor that author Brad Thor states sources have told him the 0bama campaign is prepared to declare an 'early victory' in order to 'demoralize' Romney voters. Of course doing this themselves IMO would be stupid therefore they would require some press

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Photoonist, 11/6/2012 12:57:15 AM     (No. 8991225)

...whore ally to do it for them.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: horacer, 11/6/2012 1:04:50 AM     (No. 8991228)

No something stinks here, and it's not going to work. I know Dems want to influence votes in Colorado. An early call could keep Republicans home.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: minuteman, 11/6/2012 1:06:16 AM     (No. 8991229)

There is definitely something wrong. The powers that are behind the Obama administration are not going to relinquish power quietly. But there is a kind of silence...similar to their silence before the Roberts treason...as if they know something. Hope I am just being paranoid. Praying and voting in Alabama.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 11/6/2012 1:16:47 AM     (No. 8991233)

Maybe the polls are adjusted to account for the dead vote, illegal vote and multiple vote.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: The Advocate, 11/6/2012 1:17:43 AM     (No. 8991234)

Roberts treason is a forerunner.
Christie's knee pads was another.
Remember when the press called Florida before the Panhandle voted and depressed the vote.
Obamunists know that this is their last chance to destroynAmeica.
they will not go quietly or legally.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: JHSMom02, 11/6/2012 1:19:13 AM     (No. 8991236)

If they do declare an early victory, they will depress the Dem. vote. Dems will decide that since O has won, why bother to go stand in line. Pubs know that's the plan. We are broken glass. We will NOT be fooled. Sorry.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Phil_hk, 11/6/2012 1:23:01 AM     (No. 8991238)

I have pipe dream for this election

Suppose the hard left voters in Northern California say: "Obama is going to lose but this is a blue state so who cares?" and the democratic turnout in California drops by 25% for this election but the Republican turn out doesn't and Romney wins California by 0.5%

What are the chances of that?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: lakerman1, 11/6/2012 1:23:04 AM     (No. 8991239)

Brit Hume may be correct. The whispering majority will speak today.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: steveW, 11/6/2012 1:24:09 AM     (No. 8991240)

The seeming absence of the October Surprise has been disquieting, as there was no way in hell the MSM/Obama campaign were going to allow a Romney win without pulling some form of election fraud to prevent it. But - perhaps we have already seen the October Surprise, and it's right before our eyes: months of rigged polling. I don't know, but something is indeed wrong here.




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Reply 10 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 11/6/2012 1:31:42 AM     (No. 8991249)



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Reply 11 - Posted by: Jiobaobubai, 11/6/2012 1:34:58 AM     (No. 8991252)

I have hope and fear.

Hope that Americans may actually come out for freedom.

Fear of what this b*****d and his followers will do the next day.

Prayers for America.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 11/6/2012 1:54:38 AM     (No. 8991258)

Gee Brit, you really think so?

Of course there is something wrong with the polls. Mot of them are managed by progressives who want BO to win. So they tweak the set up to favor BO who then manages to look competitive.

Let's go further than Brit dares to go. The enthusiasm for Republicans is hot while Pelousy just conceded the dems will not win back the House. How could they be doing so obviously bad in House races but BO be doing so well? Yet the polls are set as if a enthusiastic dem turnout is imminent. It isn't. Youth are gravely disappointed in BO. Many Blacks do not like his gay marriage stance. Hispanics have been ripped up by BO's economy. These folks are not going to joyfully run to the polls to support BO.

Next, Romney is winning Independents by about 60%. And there are far more of them this year (and far less dems). That is an insurmountable obstacle for BO. He cannot possibly win without majority Independent support. He will not get it.

Then we hear that the gender gap has disappeared. If BO cannot poll 14+% over Romney among women, as he did in 2008, he is toast.

ONE of these things are enough to sink BO. There are three or more. The real questions will be HOW the polls COMPLETELY failed to pin down the reality of the election? The question is rhetorical. We will have to listen to a night of media idiots astounded at the "unexpected" results. And at least a couple dopes will be talking about racism.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Passion, 11/6/2012 2:07:57 AM     (No. 8991260)

Brit, bless his heart, is losing it. He finally figures out, after the "didn't build that" speech, what Obama thinks about business.

Tonight, he finally figures out there is something wrong with the polls. What next Brit? Michelle has a big booty?

So sad, he used to be the best. Lost a few steps in last couple years.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: rowbear, 11/6/2012 2:12:31 AM     (No. 8991263)

One theory I have had is that these phoney polls showing the race to be so close are designed to hide the left's efforts to steal it through fraud. Which I firmly believe is the only way they can win it.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: BethB, 11/6/2012 2:44:22 AM     (No. 8991273)

Thinking the same thing #14. The only way to beat that is turn out.


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Reply 16 - Posted by: Dixie, 11/6/2012 2:57:55 AM     (No. 8991275)

I think Brit Hume is caught between his natural integrity and his orders from his Fox bosses to make it be a horse race, or even to prepare the way for an Obama victory.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Udanja99, 11/6/2012 3:19:10 AM     (No. 8991281)

If the media didn't try to keep it "too close to call" no one would bother to watch them. Perhaps these polls, conducted by the media, are all about ratings.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: CEP, 11/6/2012 3:42:01 AM     (No. 8991292)

Just go vote, ignore polls, pundits and other stuff. Vote!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Spidey, 11/6/2012 3:51:55 AM     (No. 8991294)

What's really tripped up the left is how good a candidate Romney turned out to be. They couldn't imagine him drawing an enthusiastic 30,000 crowd.T

he other thing that has to be eating the left's shorts is the race card isn't working. People have decided to put the future of the country ahead of their white guilt triggers.

The left has kept pushing and pushing the last 4 years.Gay this and that. Climate change this and that and healthcare this and that.

Pollsters have to work off of a model because polling has a scientific construct to it. You can't just make up a polling model out of this air.They couldn't figure out how to massage 2010 into it,so they just went with 2008.2010 was a blowback election and there's no way to measure the components that led to it or if it was a trend or spontaneous.

I think all the attention brought to fraud has suppressed the dem turnout.Even with the voter id laws thrown out,it created an awareness of cheating.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: steph_gray, 11/6/2012 5:13:36 AM     (No. 8991321)

#3 The Roberts debacle was one flawed man.

We are millions.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: MMC, 11/6/2012 6:56:00 AM     (No. 8991457)

Oh.. there was the October surprise... It happened on Sept. 11- a bit early, but the Stand Down President's plan to 'look' Presidential went awry.



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Reply 22 - Posted by: sal, 11/6/2012 7:03:07 AM     (No. 8991473)

I don't think the polls/pollsters take into account the lying factor. I have been polled at least a half dozen times and have lied every time - strong O supporter here for each and every one of their 'polls'. I have been a member of every demographic group, age range, education level, what-have-you. I know of others who have done the same - I take perverse pleasure in helping instill false confidence in the 'message'. Call it my little means of 'revenge.' I for one cannot wait to see the collective medias' faces as that tingle up their legs turns into a gnawing at the pit of their stomachs....

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Reply 23 - Posted by: rob, 11/6/2012 7:03:24 AM     (No. 8991475)

There is something wrong about the unprecedented amount spent for political advertising. The symbiotic relationship between the mainstream media and the pollsters is disturbing. Question; Who benefits from declaring this to be a tight race? Answer; An establishment media which desperately needs the revenue.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Live Free or Die!, 11/6/2012 7:07:22 AM     (No. 8991483)

This is important stuff. First Amendment. Is the MSM a free press? Wasn't Jay Carney, et al feeding BS to the MSM after Benghazi?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: romanesq, 11/6/2012 7:07:50 AM     (No. 8991485)

The October surprise was on 9-11 but enough of treason for now.

Obama has the look and sound of a loser. They now Pennsylvania is truly in play. This election is breaking out to be a nightmare for Obama and the Dems.

If Romney takes down Pennsylvania, you can start smiling and enjoy a taste of your favorite beverage, say a prayer of Thanksgiving early.

If not, we need Ohio. I think Romney takes one if not both.

Too many well respected people calling this for Romney. Michael Barone is the best in the business. I don't think he's wrong.

Tonight many of us will be saying prayers of gratitude.
We can save our Republic.

Now let's all go out and make it happen.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Maybeth, 11/6/2012 7:08:30 AM     (No. 8991487)

.... I pray that even Democrats have grown tired of the fraud and treason practiced by the Obama administration.
.... That some will begin to consider the future of their children and grandchildren under Obama, whose allowance of Islamic terrorism is chilling.
.... That they will recognize that racism, seasoned with hatred, is promoted only by Obama and Thugs.
Some of them must have brains.
Some of them must care about freedom, which will end under Obama.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: pliades, 11/6/2012 7:10:16 AM     (No. 8991488)

My take on this is 'stinky' is going to be spending a lot more time in the Whitehouse after this. He has an awful lot of pardons to write.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: gone2pot, 11/6/2012 7:19:13 AM     (No. 8991496)

Good grief, His High Holy Saviorshipfulness is going to cheat and he is going to win. They know exactly which precincts to make sure get the dead votes and like St Louis and KC, the polls will be open until ten or midnight like they are EVERY single election so the buses from Illinois full of leftist Marxist useful idiots can vote for Obama. After this is over and the severe gut punch pain is almost gone, it will only be a story in the conservative media, the MSM will of course vilify anyone who remotely suggests voter fraud by calling them racists, etc, etc. The jaw dropping shock still won't change a thing for the next four years. 315 electoral votes for Romney? Please. The Saul Alinsky's are counting the votes and will for the rest of our lives. It's called consequences and I sure hope I'm wrong.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: avital2, 11/6/2012 7:19:36 AM     (No. 8991499)

i think that besides oversampling Democrats in a lot of polls, people have been reluctant to say they are voting for Romney for fear of being thought racist. we'll see what people really think very soon.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: planetgeo, 11/6/2012 7:21:03 AM     (No. 8991501)

Two words: Bradley effect.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: red oak, 11/6/2012 7:28:34 AM     (No. 8991508)

Just got a lump in my throat from reading number 25. Thanks. Today is finally the day and we're lining up for the battle to fix our country. I thought of my two innocent sleeping children this morning and how they aren't aware of just how big this day is going to be for their futures. Patted my boy and he cooed. A good day is about to unfold.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: nimby, 11/6/2012 7:39:33 AM     (No. 8991527)

Are people on Colorado this shallow? To believe this garbage?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 11/6/2012 7:42:00 AM     (No. 8991531)

Take a look at what's happening in Nevada:
http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/how-many-noncitizens-are-registered-to-vote-177141441.html

The Las Vegas Review-Journal won't allow postings on Lucianne.com (and in fact has threatened our hostess with lawsuits because of it), so you'll just have to read the source directly.

In a nutshell, there are many illegals here, working in hotels, and members of the Culinary Union. Most barely speak any English, and a local columnist, Glenn Cook, interviewed some of them who told him they were given papers to sign by their union officials - one of which was a voter registration - and then they were forced to vote.

Yes, forced. Somehow, union officials are able to learn who has voted, and who has not. And they pressure and coerce these immigrants with loss of their job and deportation if they don't go vote. Many of them even know it's illegal for them to vote in the U.S., but they need their jobs, so they go.

You may have heard references to this on Fox & Friends this morning. But this is not a new story - this is how Harry Reid got re-elected in 2010..... illegals being registered without their knowledge, and then intimidated into voting by threats to their employment.

Alas, our Secretary of State is a Democrat, and was part of Soros's Secretary of State Project from 2010.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Judith, 11/6/2012 7:44:28 AM     (No. 8991538)

Got to the polls a few minutes before 7 a.m. Line was long and,at first, I was excited because this is democracy in action. And then I realized it was a long line full of frightened people...not such a happy thought.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: cobieone, 11/6/2012 7:49:58 AM     (No. 8991548)

Agree with most comments above. Of course there is something wrong with the polls! EVERY poll over-samples dems, some by a huge number. Zero can't get over 50%, undecideds and independants are largely breaking for Romney, the enthusiasm gap is huge for our side, Romney is a great candidate and looks/sounds presidential... need I continue? Romney will win Ohio, FL, VA, NC, MO, IA, WI, CO, and win the White House. This will be a good day indeed!

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Reply 36 - Posted by: privateer, 11/6/2012 7:53:59 AM     (No. 8991557)

Of course the Waste Stream Media benefits from reporting a horse race, but that's not it. Like Rush says: if it ain't close, they can't steal it. An honest election would probably elect Mitt by at least 6%. Question: How many of these positive scenarios are washed away by unprecedentedly massive dem vote fraud? Answer: All of them.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: baldguy, 11/6/2012 7:54:12 AM     (No. 8991560)

#7...I have the same pipe dream, being from blue Illinois. But there are too many kool aid drinkers and union goons here....my pres vote was probably a waste of time but we can only hope...

Anyway, I truly believe Dick Morris.... Landslide!!

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Arby, 11/6/2012 7:57:19 AM     (No. 8991567)

Today's poll is the only one that counts. Get out there and vote for change that we can actually believe in.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: metalman2, 11/6/2012 8:14:19 AM     (No. 8991597)

I couldn't get in to my poling place this morning. I couldn't turn off the highway as there was no room. I'm in an extremely conservative area (Holland, Michigan). I take this as a good sign.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: maryc, 11/6/2012 8:15:59 AM     (No. 8991599)

The silent patriots stood in line for hours for a chicken biscuit.

The press cheated and called florida for Gore keeping many repubs in the pan handle home.

The press called 2004 prematurely for Kerry based on polling from the voting sights.

No way on God's green earth folks are going to listen to these polls that they don't answer because they don't want to or don't trust or are too tired from working to listen .

We are here and we will be heard today as in 2010.

The press and their polls have no credibility. They have sold themselves as prostitutes for the left.

And too many people are ready to take on the call for liberty in the only way they can . with their vote.

Check your vote before you leave the booth !!!!

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Laurie, 11/6/2012 8:16:53 AM     (No. 8991602)

If the Superbowl hype involved a team that was 3-13 and 13-3, there wouldn't be much to talk about. People wouldn't anticipate the match-up as much because they would assume it's going to be a blow-out. There'd be no way to make money and keep the commentary relevant.

Same concept at play here. The teams have to be hyped to be evenly matched to keep the interest up on both sides.

I think that works to Romney's favor. I don't care about the polls. And I pray that all efforts at voter fraud are supernaturally thwarted. And that the end result is a blowout for the good guys.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: FormerDem, 11/6/2012 8:17:24 AM     (No. 8991604)

think the same thing, #14, #15, but I also think, Romney's team worked that out and worked out where to go for votes that would actually be counted. Also on our side, the vanity of the left will tend to prevent the Donks from guessing correctly how much cheating they need to do. Polling won't tell them because GOP aren't picking up the phone. We have a good chance. Vote, vote.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 11/6/2012 8:20:21 AM     (No. 8991611)

The knee pad media is lying about the polls. All we can do now is vote and PRAY. I'm Catholic, so I plan on saying the St. Michael the Archangel prayer a time or two today. God save America. God bless America.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: jt26, 11/6/2012 8:20:42 AM     (No. 8991613)

The people are not as stupid as the Dems and their MSM allies think. The economy is in a shambles, Washington is broken, and mister Obama bears the brunt of the responsibility for it. People vote their wallet and the hope for a better day for their families. Romney can give us that, Obama has not. This will be closed out with a Romney victory by 11pm tonight.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 11/6/2012 8:23:19 AM     (No. 8991620)

#14, me too.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: Hermoine, 11/6/2012 8:23:23 AM     (No. 8991621)

I don't know how I'm going to get through today...I'm just so dang nervous. My husband is CONVINCED, convinced, convinced that Obama is going to carry Ohio and get re-elected. I think Romney's going to squeak it out and end up with 285 electoral votes...just can't stand the waiting!!!!

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Reply 47 - Posted by: owl, 11/6/2012 8:25:15 AM     (No. 8991627)

Polling accuracy and influences aside , if there are so many Americans living in big , run down cities and along the coastlines who can out-vote the entire rest of the country , the rest of the country will probably secede . Those of us who actually produce something will empower the likes of the TEA Party to operate our own government . The media and the panhandlers want a socialist country ?. We don't want any part of it . PS Don't come begging in the middle of winter when you have no heat , gas or food . And if you don't think it can happen here , well it did in the USSR .

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Reply 48 - Posted by: pineledger, 11/6/2012 8:32:45 AM     (No. 8991640)

I think the early voter turnout was Romney support. JMO. I certainly didn't want to take the chance of something happening to prevent me from voting for Romney.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 11/6/2012 8:34:07 AM     (No. 8991644)

I keep going back to a story that surfaced here several months ago that the Obama White House had spent $2mil on "polling" over the last year, and that was before the general campaign started. No one at the time could figure out why they were spending that kind of money so early on. Is it possible they had "paid off" the pollsters to fudge the numbers in their favor throughout the general? Inquiring minds want to know...

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Reply 50 - Posted by: gwmcclintok, 11/6/2012 8:39:56 AM     (No. 8991659)

The bear has been awakened. Right leaning America. He is out of his den and we will win.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: ForNow, 11/6/2012 8:45:28 AM     (No. 8991675)

The media favor Obama. If they broadcast good or bad news for Romney, ignore it all the same and just go vote.

Twice (Bush 41 and Bush 43 in 2000) they called the Florida vote an hour before polls closed in the Florida Panhandle because they "forgot" that much of the conservative Florida Panhandle is in an earlier time zone than the rest of Florida. Bush supporters who thought Bush 43 had won ended up not voting because of it. Don't let them get away with hanging chads and cheating. Don't try to anticipate at some point how the election already over if you haven't voted yet.

If they call Pennsylvania, Vermont, Virginia, the Carolinas, and Florida for Romney by big margins, and you're in Ohio or Iowa, etc., ignore it and go vote. Don't try to anticipate how there's no remaining way for the media and Dems to create or exploit an opportunity. Even in California, add your bit to the national popular vote for Romney. Just go vote.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 11/6/2012 8:47:09 AM     (No. 8991677)

Look at individual aspects of these polls;

Most believe the country is on the wrong track;

The gender gap has pretty much vanished;

Romney gets better marks on the economy, which is the number one issue;

Romney has a consistent lead among independents in all the polls;

oblamer has never hit 50% in any of the realistic polls, which is usually death warning for an incumbent;

Yet the final polls are essentially tied? It doesn't add up.

Boy, I wish prozac was available over the counter. I could probably use some today.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 11/6/2012 8:51:09 AM     (No. 8991688)

I turned on MSNBC yesterday afternoon to check on their take of the election, and was dumbfounded to see they actually believed Obama would win. They quoted one poll, (I think it was Maris) that said Obama led by 14 points.
I called my English friend whose good sense I rely on, and babbled what I had just seen. SHe told me to turn it off. Keep it off! They were obviously mad.

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Reply 54 - Posted by: Riabks, 11/6/2012 8:53:09 AM     (No. 8991693)

I was voter 69 at 7:30 in my precinct in Livonia, Michigan. I heard the term 'broken glass' while waiting in line.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: nycvoter, 11/6/2012 8:55:56 AM     (No. 8991704)

I was at the polls in coral gables, Florida at 6:30am and there were about 30 people. By the time the polls opened at 7AM there were about 200 people. To me they al looked like liberals but maybe I am projecting. Every time I see a woman in her 40's with grey hair or a woman under 30 voting I assume they are liberals. I hope I am wrong. What was very strange was that I did not see one African American and yes they do live in the gables as well.

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Reply 56 - Posted by: Illinois Resident, 11/6/2012 8:56:59 AM     (No. 8991705)

I have always had a lot of respect for Brit Hume, but lately.........he has said a lot of out of character strange things. Anyway, even Ann Coulter reported that Illinois might turn Red for Romney and I agree. Ask anyone who lives anywhere but Chicago.

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Reply 57 - Posted by: donnaclaire, 11/6/2012 9:05:58 AM     (No. 8991742)

Even if the polls were indicating Obama has a 20-point lead, I'd still crawl (if need be) to vote for Romney. I hope and trust all like-minded Americans will do the same. This election is far too important to keep any of us from voting AGAINST this arrogant, anti-America disaster of a man.

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Reply 58 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 11/6/2012 9:15:03 AM     (No. 8991768)

The job of the pollster is to INFLUENCE, not to INFORM.

All they need to do is make a difference of a few points and they have done their job--for the democrats.

We'll see.

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Reply 59 - Posted by: silencedogood, 11/6/2012 9:15:04 AM     (No. 8991769)

Focus and finish!

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Reply 60 - Posted by: Proud American, 11/6/2012 9:21:26 AM     (No. 8991791)

Good morning my fellow Americans. Reporting in from Chesterfield, MA.

I arose before dawn, said my prayers and hustlted to the polling station. I was there at 6:20 before the poll workers were there. When they arrived they invited me in out of the cold. I waited half an hour to be the first to vote in my town of about 844 registerd voters.

I hid my good luck charm as you can't display them at the ....a tea bag and a pewter mitten on a necklace. I've worn them into work and been teased a bit...but you must be fearless in these things.

TEABAGS EVERYONE, WEAR OR DISPLAY A TEABAG!

God Bless America
God Bless Miss Lucianne for all her efforts on our behalf and God Bless the Tea Party.

GO MITT!

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Reply 61 - Posted by: pmarc078, 11/6/2012 9:22:43 AM     (No. 8991799)

and here..we..go.

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Reply 62 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 11/6/2012 9:23:16 AM     (No. 8991802)

Obviously, the MSM-sponsored polls are (1) designed to show that Obama has already won, and thereby depress Republican turnout, and (2) signal to Democrats by how many votes they'll have to stuff the ballot boxes to win.

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Reply 63 - Posted by: BMartin, 11/6/2012 9:23:20 AM     (No. 8991804)

I live in a small town - at 6:30 this morning voters were wrapped around the building - the lines have not stopped - and these were not BO supporters....

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Reply 64 - Posted by: Avogadra, 11/6/2012 9:25:29 AM     (No. 8991810)

Didn't the Obama team threaten to sue Gallup when their polls came out favoring Romney? Perhaps it's not strange at all that polls now show a tie or an Obama win, even though the internals don't back that up. Self preservation is a strong motivator.

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Reply 65 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan, 11/6/2012 9:35:10 AM     (No. 8991829)

I love Brit Hume but Sunday I thought he was a real downer. He has lived and worked in Wash. DC for a long time and in the past, usually the polls were -give or take- somewhat reliable. What he misses now is that so many have cell phones and caller ID, and he also doesn't factor in the pollsters' (what I call) "Retaliation Factor".

IMO, the pollsters are deliberately over-polling dems in order to keep this race tight. In their polling I think they're finding Barry losing, but if they dare report the truth they will be forever painted by half the country as racists - and their polls will be less likely used in the future by left-leaning media.

It is far easier for them to come out Nov. 7th and say they didn't see the upswell of Repub. turnout - than for them to risk their future employment.

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Reply 66 - Posted by: Butch59, 11/6/2012 9:44:33 AM     (No. 8991862)

The wife and I have already voted (for Romney of course) and will just sit out the day (We're retired) and pray that at the end of the day, Romney becomes victorious. I don't know how I could survive any other result.

The next 24hrs are going to be a nightmare. I'm going to make sure I have a goodly supply of ant-acids on hand.

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Reply 67 - Posted by: Pepper Tree, 11/6/2012 9:50:38 AM     (No. 8991883)

What a well-stated truth, #8. This is the neighborhood party season in our red state region. Bar-B-Qs in the park, block parties, etc.

Here we are in the midst of the most defining election in a century, and even with a few beers or glasses of wine under their belts, nobody is talking about it. No yard signs, no bumper stickers, no campaign buttons. The longest political conversation I've had with a neighbor was to ask if he'd seen the latest debate. "Yeah" was the answer.

It's what it must be like in small arms combat situations. When you're doing an ammunition inventory, discussing philosophy is pointless.

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Reply 68 - Posted by: thewarden, 11/6/2012 10:01:45 AM     (No. 8991928)

I have the day off but could not sleep in, too nervous. I will wait for my 18 year old son to return from his college classes early this afternoon and then we will go to the polls for his first vote! Boy, did I pick the wrong time to go on nutrisystem! There is a bag of Reeses minis in the cupboard just screaming at me...chocolate is my drug. Help! LOL. God bless America and may we all celebrate tonight a grand slam Romney victory!

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Reply 69 - Posted by: sagman, 11/6/2012 10:03:05 AM     (No. 8991931)

Republicans and independents who understand what's at stake will not be depressed by fake exit polls, early calls for Obama, the usual crap from Dems and their media allies.

This time, that dog won't hunt.

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Reply 70 - Posted by: NuGoddess, 11/6/2012 10:20:58 AM     (No. 8992015)

I read this on the ''Must Reads'' section of LDot: Polls are Cliff Notes for the politically lazy.

Do not believe the ''polls'' because polling is like statistics: if you torture numbers long enough you get the answer you desire.

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Reply 71 - Posted by: Browneyes, 11/6/2012 10:32:45 AM     (No. 8992066)

I was invited to participate in an "exit poll" at 0859 after voting. A questionaire: age,income,color,religious affiliation,politica affilliation, AND who will Obama benefit the most: poor,middle class,or rich, same question re: Romney,split you ballot,if so who.

The Lady asked me to read to whom results will go: ABC,CBS,NBC,FOX News,CNN and MSNBC. We'll see.

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Reply 72 - Posted by: Altera, 11/6/2012 10:44:13 AM     (No. 8992098)

I'm hoping this is a Chick-fil-A Day.

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Reply 73 - Posted by: Browneyes, 11/6/2012 10:47:18 AM     (No. 8992110)

Sorry for 2nd post, but, a cautionary hint: while filling in the "oval" for my choices, I accidentially rested my pen on an "oval" below,and the machine rejected my ballot,twice, so the County Police officer called a poll watcher and I was given a new one,and voted again. The original ballot was placed in a green plastic bag and given to 3 poll watchers at a table. This was @ a polling place on the North Shore of MA.

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Reply 74 - Posted by: DoktorFranken, 11/6/2012 11:01:46 AM     (No. 8992153)

Polls have ALWAYS sucked. Anyone believing them or relying on them are inherently stupid. ESPECIALLY any poll that has THE MEDIA involved. Over sampling Dems is just ONE of the SOP for them. LYING is another.

re: OP's: "NOTE: there is a rumor that author Brad Thor states sources have told him the 0bama campaign is prepared to declare an 'early victory' in order to 'demoralize' Romney voters."

RUSH should use this for his show today. That will make it very difficult for the WH to USE it. If they do, it makes Rush look good. Heaven FORBID!!

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Reply 75 - Posted by: John21, 11/6/2012 11:06:58 AM     (No. 8992162)

The propaganda media has been the public relations department of the Obama administration for the last 5 years.

I am sure they already have the stories set up and ready to go to provide continuing support of the "Incompetent Administration" of the Zero.

I pray Romney wins and this scum has to try and convince the people that they haven't been in Obamas pocket for four years.

That will be difficult because they have already proven they have no integrity or credibility.

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Reply 76 - Posted by: Labrador Heaven, 11/6/2012 11:14:01 AM     (No. 8992195)

#22 -you cannot discount the "Bradley Effect" in this race. You almost could in the last presidential, but now....it's the monkey wrench alongside sheer disgust.

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Reply 77 - Posted by: roger h. cook,MD, 11/6/2012 11:34:20 AM     (No. 8992276)

Anyone who follows what has been going on with the so called MSM knows since Bill C they have been shills for democrat socialism bushed my the billionaires that get favors from the democrats.

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Reply 78 - Posted by: Joycie, 11/6/2012 11:40:21 AM     (No. 8992301)

The New Black Panther Party is back. I saw a video on Drudge that shows one man, dressed in black, opening the door at a polling place. He would not talk to the interviewer.

AND, according to the Washington Examiner, in Philadelphia GOP poll inspectors were ousted and replaced with Democrats - sanctioned by Democrat Election judges.

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Reply 79 - Posted by: Layne's Soapbox, 11/6/2012 11:42:45 AM     (No. 8992309)

I voted this morning at 9:45 in Chesapeake, VA. There was no line, didn't think there would be, this is a "suburb" of Norfolk, lots of military at work at that hour. I penned my X's on the ballot a little too enthusiastically and the machine wouldn't accept it, the chief election official gave me a new one after writing in ink "void" on it. He had to look at my marks to figure out why the machine didn't like me, and then he immediately asked if I had ever thought about becoming an election official. I guess he liked all of my R's.

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Reply 80 - Posted by: Mmdemimonde, 11/6/2012 11:44:05 AM     (No. 8992311)

I'm a poll watcher for mitt in a heavily democrat district in palm beach county....the polling place is in an upscale retirement community....I can't get the vibe but the voting is orderly and quiet. I'm hoping my fellow retirees want only the best for their children and grandchildren and vote for mitt!!!!!

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Reply 81 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 11/6/2012 11:44:37 AM     (No. 8992312)

It's not a Bradley Effect. It's the Media Effect. A while lot of conservatives are fed up with the media. They know most polls are sponsored by the media and either refuse to participate or lie as a protest.

Remember 2004. First the polls told us it was going to be close. Then all day long we heard Kerry was well ahead. And Kerry, unlike Obama, had been drawing huge crowds at blue state campaign stops -80,000 in Madison where Obama drew 18,000 yesterday.



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Reply 82 - Posted by: Thurston_Howell_III, 11/6/2012 11:53:03 AM     (No. 8992336)

I'm confident we will win this, and I'm also eager to see if Project ORCA works as designed.

(Note: Project ORCA has nothing to do with 0bama using Chris Christie as a campaign prop)

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Reply 83 - Posted by: jasmine, 11/6/2012 11:55:20 AM     (No. 8992342)

We tossed out so many Democrats at all levels in 2010.


Not sure I believe the country is as eager for more Democrat antics as their far left supporters are. It does seem as though the polls don't "fit" with how badly things are going for the country in general.

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Reply 84 - Posted by: joeyinempirestate, 11/6/2012 12:04:03 PM     (No. 8992367)

My friend Ralph Reed says the evangelical vote for R will be off the charts.

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Reply 85 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 11/6/2012 12:13:00 PM     (No. 8992393)

Posters who purport to know something about constitutional law should help us to determine their credibility (if any) by posting their credentials.

This is a republican form of government – not a judicial form of government. And, thus, the simple fact is that taxation is constitutionally permitted. If people don’t like the taxes levied by the Government, the constitutional solution is to elect new representatives.

BTW, inasmuch as under the Constitution all tax bills must originate in the House – and Obamacare had originated in the Senate (i.e., as a non-tax bill “mandate”) – Obama care is unConstitutional -- for this reason.

But nonetheless, those who know nothing about constitutional law have a duty to stop with their “Roberts’ treason” stupidity.


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Reply 86 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 11/6/2012 12:13:01 PM     (No. 8992394)

Why are the Black Panthers at polling locations in Philadelphia? Ostensibly "for
protection". WHO are they protecting/ Protection from what? Paper cuts? Ink pen leaks ? or something much more insidious.
Protecting their man from losing ! I voted in New York. There was NO ONE outside the polling location ( a church ). Exactly what purpose does anyone have outside a polling location, other than implied intimidation. Our polling location runs excellently, outside of the fact that we get no result when we vote, that is, we don't know what the
optical scanner reads and records, and I find that troubling. I want to insure that the people I voted for actually receive the votes.

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Reply 87 - Posted by: Billyc, 11/6/2012 12:26:16 PM     (No. 8992418)

One has to be careful about anything Brit says. As a FoxNews host he was excellent, He now is part time filling in for panels etc, He comes across to me as anti Romney . Really have you ever heard Brit say anything positive about Mitt ? To the nitties . There's something wrong and he is correct about the anomoly of neasrly a tie in most fringe states but then MSM screaming that Obama is winning in most controversial or border line states.A number of factors have been spelled out by others and basically a couple of groups will insure Romney is the final winner . Romney has mote independents, Reed's born again christians, Catholics the majority will not vote for Obama. If they get the voting papers in time the majority of service personnel will vote for Romney. Other factors The turnouts at some of Obama speech stops have been pitiful compared with 2008. For instance his stomp last night was half full.Compare it to Romneys overflow crowds that are packing his speech stops. Also Carl Rove is adamant that Gov Romney will be elected next President.Keep the faith.

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Reply 88 - Posted by: Grambo, 11/6/2012 12:38:34 PM     (No. 8992464)

Close polls gives an excuse to contest any favorable Romney vote as impossibly flawed. Sandy gives an excuse for NE disenfranchisement.

There will be a fight in any case.

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Reply 89 - Posted by: formerlyphelps, 11/6/2012 12:59:20 PM     (No. 8992535)

Sheesh people. Right up until last night it was “ROMNEY LANDSLIDE!” – now it’s already over and -0-bama won?

There seems to be a major media shift today, with everyone hedging bets and suggesting a close -0-bama victory, apparently designed to suppress GOP turnout. -0-bama’s final rally was performed to a half-empty stadium. He has lost support among virtually every demographic from 2008. The economy is gasping at below 2%, unemployment is higher today than when he took office, gas prices are double what they were when he took office, his approval rating index is -8%, he’s offered nothing but the same for a 2nd term.

Go vote. Ignore the news if necessary. Romney will carry Florida and Colorado, and at least half of the other swing states. Statistically, with all of the states tied or within the margin, they will split. Romney doesn’t have to win them all, but he will win enough.

Vote.


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Reply 90 - Posted by: mollyb0122, 11/6/2012 1:12:05 PM     (No. 8992567)

My husband and I voted at a small town in Ohio this morning. Poll workers told us they were swamped earlier, we voted at 8:30 AM. As I was leaving, a voter ahead of me asked if I was praying. I said yes, of course. She said we need to pray for this election to preserve our lives as we now know them, and also our beloved country.

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Reply 91 - Posted by: globalwarmer, 11/6/2012 1:36:55 PM     (No. 8992632)

Went to put in my Romney vote here in NW Ohio at about 90am to avoid the early before-work crowds. HA-ha, the crowds were there lined up out in the parking lot. I've never seen it this busy, nor have the poll workers. Most all Republicans, too, in my district. We're energized, baby!

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Reply 92 - Posted by: artsy, 11/6/2012 2:26:33 PM     (No. 8992744)

Colorado voters...please get to the polls. The TV stations are full of 0bama's negative ads...lies and distortions. And there are plenty of sweet optimistic ads from him...more lies and distortions. And my phone is ringing off the hook looking for 0bama voters. It will be a huge disappointment if we loose Colorado.

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Reply 93 - Posted by: steph_gray, 11/6/2012 2:45:58 PM     (No. 8992789)

Voted in my suburb northwest of Boston around mid-day. As I said on another thread, no line, but every single booth filled and parking lot almost filled even at 11ish am. (I took the day off.)

I would never never never let anything I see on either side discourage me from voting. The Obammunist could be polling at 40% up. Same thing if Romney were. I would still vote, no matter what. Seen too many election shenanigans now ever to do otherwise.

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Reply 94 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 11/6/2012 3:09:09 PM     (No. 8992846)

#7 - I don't think you're far off from the dream we share. The last CA poll, after the third debate, only had Obama at 53%. IIRC Obama got close to 60% of the vote in '08. The only Obama-Biden sign in town is in front of the Dem headquarters. I've only seen one Obama '12 bumper sticker, and two leftovers from '08. This is far different from Obama's immaculation year. No one is talking here, either.

Also, in the Dem primary election there were a million more dims that voted for Feinstein than voted for Obama. I think this signals a sizable number of California Dems that will not be voting Obama, whether or not they vote for Romney.

If Obama takes CA, it will be barely over 50%. Dare we hope for a West Coast Surprise? California Dreamin'.

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Reply 95 - Posted by: jetsman, 11/6/2012 6:47:16 PM     (No. 8993569)

I don't have any faith in the STUPID amerikan public and even less in the state controlled media.
I think that the STUPID amerikan public will
give lord messiah o'bama the votes he needs to win because he bought them cell phones!!
This country is getting what it deserves...
a socialist government because one has to loose something before it will miss what they lost.
In this care,however,we won't get our freedoms back.
Look at baltimore the authorities are going to put in place ways to pick up conversations on their buses or lightrails.
O'bama will win...take it to the bank,bet the farm on what I say because I know this
STUPID amerikan public very well and they will vote for lord messiah o'bama,again!!

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Reply 96 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 11/6/2012 7:41:23 PM     (No. 8993771)

Voted on Long Island this morning. After 8 days freezing in the dark, cut off from Lucianne, I voted for Romney in a packed polling place which had been moved due to Hurricane Sandy.

After casting my vote, I returned home to find the power was back on. I took this as a good omen.

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Reply 97 - Posted by: 4Justice, 11/6/2012 8:29:48 PM     (No. 8993935)

#7, I love your dream...being a No. Cal gal myself...but unfortunately, there are too many heavy issues on the ballot this time for anyone to stay home. We have a ton of tax hike propositions (both income and sales tax....you know, they're for the chiiiiiildren...) and the Death Penalty and 3 Strikes reform. Also lots of bonds (again schools)

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Reply 98 - Posted by: dolphin, 11/6/2012 10:29:20 PM     (No. 8994376)

What wasn't taken into consideration was the extreme hate they feel for us. It is the motivator here. Hate is why they came out. Hate is why they get up in the morning. Hate is their raison d'etre. They are turning our children against us. They are very, very dangerous.

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