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Topic: Warfare waged by the upper class |
Warfare waged by the upper class
Washington Post, by Katrina vanden Heuvel
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Posted By:Dreadnought, 10/30/2012 8:06:23 PM
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| “The Republican vision is clear — ‘I got mine. The rest of you are on your own.’ Republicans say they don’t believe in government. Sure, they do. They believe in government to help themselves and their powerful friends. After all, Mitt Romney is the guy who said corporations are people. No, Governor Romney, corporations are not people. “People have hearts. They have kids. They get jobs. They get sick. They cry, they dance. They live, they love, and they die, and that matters. That matters because we do not run this country for corporations. We run it for people, and that is why I support
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Beca, 10/30/2012 8:10:36 PM (No. 8975557)
Awwwwwww Katrina. One Of my favorite mouths. She is msnbc do no One hears her. Someone actually let her pen her bull. Hey Katrina. Get LOST. You liberal witch
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Bpl40, 10/30/2012 8:14:07 PM (No. 8975567)
Corporations have liabilities, responsibilities and obligations, you brainless left wing idiot. Accountability is something you water on the brain morons will never understand.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
antiquegolf, 10/30/2012 8:14:20 PM (No. 8975568)
Sorry to violate unwritten TOS and post without reading the article. Just the sight of this author, the sight of her name in print, or any verbal reference to katrina spikes my blood pressure to the vascular accident danger zone. It's all about my health.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
rpool, 10/30/2012 8:15:37 PM (No. 8975574)
Gee whiz, Katrina, we are doing so well - jobs, the economy, falling national debt, honesty in Libya, rising stature in the world for the US - who in the world could argue with your clearly informed perspective?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Lefthanded_rightminded, 10/30/2012 8:17:09 PM (No. 8975578)
But, Katrina, corporations ARE people; living, breathing employees and their families. THAT is what Romney meant, and you know it. And if you hurt corporations with government heavy-handedness, the pain ripples through those living, breathing people and their happy, dancing, loving, dying families you and your ilk claim to care so much about.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
nwcudagal, 10/30/2012 8:22:06 PM (No. 8975586)
Corporations may provide products for consumers, incomes for working people and profits for stockholders. That fat, lazy welfare queen in her jammy pants and flip flops in the checkout line ahead of me with her EBT card doesn't produce anything of value.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
KTWO, 10/30/2012 8:25:25 PM (No. 8975593)
The Chris Mathews of print media?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Teleologicus, 10/30/2012 8:26:45 PM (No. 8975596)
This writer manifests a level of naivete to be expected in a ten year old but that is unexpected and shocking in an adult. She is old enough to know better but she does not, probably because she refuses to do so. In other words, she is a Leftist. She prefers her childish good guys versus bad guys caricature of reality to the real thing. She would rather dwell in the fantasy ideology of Leftism than grapple with the sordid complexities of the real world. Not least among the sordid complexities of the real world are the multiple, intricate, seemingly endless connections between the Obama administration, big business, high finance, banks, insurance companies, energy interests, and other for-profit enterprises that Ms. vanden Heuvel professes to disdain. Can she really be as ignorant of this as her column suggests? Does she simply not know about the tentacles of the filthy capitalists embracing and emanating from the Obama regime? Who does she think is paying for it all? Ordinary Americans who think Obama is their messiah against greedy business and banks have some excuse for being suckers. What is this woman's excuse? A dedicated Marxist would view the Obama gang as Lenin's bourgeois useful idiots and the greedy mega-capitalists who support them in order to accrue more capital as a movement in the dialectic destined to bring about their own downfall as history progresses. There are still people who believe that sort of thing. Is she one of them? What on earth is wrong with this woman?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
a man over thirty, 10/30/2012 8:28:19 PM (No. 8975600)
Seems appropriate that this witch and one of the most destructive hurricanes in our history share the same name. vanden Heuvel is evil.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
SouthSanAntonio, 10/30/2012 8:31:52 PM (No. 8975605)
Wow. Just wow. So many lies, so little space.
I feel like I need a long hot shower just to wash the stench of that editorial off of me.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Coy860, 10/30/2012 8:33:01 PM (No. 8975608)
The upper class, the top 10%..I wish them well, in America we are all free to be..(at least we were) until Obama pitted us against one another. I may never be rich, but hope my children will be, and I NEVER want to hear Americans speak against them for earning the rewards of their hard work. This class warfare has got to stop.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
horacer, 10/30/2012 8:38:27 PM (No. 8975619)
That would be you Katrina. Just how many tens of millions is that trust fund of yours worth. Why not give all that unearned money to the poor.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
earlybird, 10/30/2012 8:40:52 PM (No. 8975625)
Oh, shoot. She found her broom. Just in time for Halloween.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
doublesharp, 10/30/2012 8:46:46 PM (No. 8975636)
#3, I read it for you. You owe me!
Naive is an understatement and written at the 3rd grade level insults 3rd graders. Foolish woman. Shun her.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
capt scurvey, 10/30/2012 8:49:03 PM (No. 8975642)
commie bunt
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
saguni, 10/30/2012 8:49:33 PM (No. 8975643)
More than employees--and I'm not in any way minimizing the contributions of employees--a corporation, especially a publicly traded corporation, is owned by stockholders. The management has a duty to protect the interests of stockholders and generate profits from which they can pay dividends.
Many of those stockholders own little pieces of various corporations in their 401Ks, and a lot of them are already retired and depend on those dividends to help pay their living expenses and medical bills in their "golden years." I know I do, and I am no where near the top ten percent.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
formerNYer, 10/30/2012 8:49:37 PM (No. 8975644)
mean, evil corporations how dare they make a profit? of course Katrina works for a Corp that cares little about profit and will hopefully fold in a few years. There is so much wrong in this drivel that I don't know where to begin. Socialism at its best on display and we all know how well socialism has done in reality.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
NYbob, 10/30/2012 8:53:38 PM (No. 8975648)
Another protected elitist lectures me about how wealthy I should be and how I should 'share' my hard earned money while she sits on a much bigger pile. I wish you much ill Katrina.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
antiquegolf, 10/30/2012 8:59:53 PM (No. 8975659)
Thank you, poster 14. I promise to make it right.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
iamtinman, 10/30/2012 9:00:11 PM (No. 8975662)
They don't get too much further left than Komrade Katrina. I especially like the part where she gave away all her assets to aid the poor, sick, homeless folks and went to live in the streets with them. Oh she didn't? Well never mind.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
kanphil, 10/30/2012 9:01:44 PM (No. 8975664)
What is it that makes Katrina such a bitter witch? Can it be that some man done her wrong? Or maybe the problem is that no man has done her at all.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Hardright, 10/30/2012 9:09:18 PM (No. 8975683)
Exactly what I was going to say #12! Katrina is loaded. Is she sharing? I doubt it very much.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
TakeBackAmerica, 10/30/2012 9:11:12 PM (No. 8975689)
It Figures. Obama voters are public service employees, entitlement parasites and half-wits like this Dutch broad.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
pineledger, 10/30/2012 9:13:01 PM (No. 8975693)
What is Kate doing out of her crib?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
IloveteaMD, 10/30/2012 9:14:40 PM (No. 8975698)
I don't even know where to begin on this one. So much to criticize, so little time. Well, it's not worth my time other than to say . . . What a cretin!!!!!!
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Teleologicus, 10/30/2012 9:17:17 PM (No. 8975706)
I forgot to address the drearily familiar 'corporations are persons' canard. Anyone with the slightest curiosity and thirty seconds to spare can quickly acquire an overview of this matter, which is regularly invoked and misrepresented by ignoramuses to slander Republicans and conservatives. Does Ms. vanden Heuvel really and truly not know the origin and basis for the legal concept and settled case law of corporate personhood? She writes like she doesn't have a clue. Or perhaps she does know better but chooses to misrepresent this issue for partisan gain. Both possibilities are inexcusable in someone like her. If she doesn't know better, she should. If she does know better, she is being dishonest.
A corporation is a PERSON? Huh? Hey bub, a corporation ain't no GD person, it's a business or what have you! HAR HAR HAR HAR! Ain't that funny! Some doofus done gone and said that a corporation is a PERSON! Don't that beat all!
Ordinary, everyday Democratic dopes can plead ignorance for talking this way. They are, after all, dopes. But Ms. vanden Heuvel, whatever else may be said about her, is no dope. Why, then, does she write like one? What in the world is wrong with this woman?
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
jl80863, 10/30/2012 9:18:23 PM (No. 8975711)
Maybe she should pair up with Dowd.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Dante, 10/30/2012 9:20:50 PM (No. 8975723)
"They believe in government to help themselves and their powerful friends"
Sorry, idiot, this description is more apt for Zero and his gang of cronies who were allowed to collect billions from the taxpayers in return for their 'campaign contributions'.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Italiano, 10/30/2012 9:22:10 PM (No. 8975727)
In that case, Katrina, arm yourselves and take to the streets. Let's get it settled.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Johnny Angle, 10/30/2012 9:30:23 PM (No. 8975743)
From Wikipedia: Vanden Heuvel was born in New York City, New York, the daughter of Jean Stein, an heiress, best-selling author, and editor of the literary journal Grand Street, and William vanden Heuvel, an attorney, former US ambassador, member of John F. Kennedy's administration, businessman, and author. She has one sister and two step-siblings. Her maternal grandparents were Music Corporation of America founder Jules C. Stein and Doris Babbette Jones (originally Jonas). Through her maternal grandmother, vanden Heuvel is a distant cousin of actor and comedian George Jessel.
Vanden Heuvel graduated from the Trinity School in 1977. Vanden Heuvel studied politics and history at Princeton University, writing her senior thesis on McCarthyism and serving as editor-in-chief of the Nassau Weekly. She graduated summa cum laude from Princeton in 1981.
Our poor little princess.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
racheldrum, 10/30/2012 9:31:06 PM (No. 8975745)
What drivel.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
floridagator, 10/30/2012 9:44:43 PM (No. 8975767)
#15 I would say bommie citch, cupid stunt, whotten rore...I could do this all night, but this is supposed to be a salon.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
oh-heck, 10/30/2012 10:03:11 PM (No. 8975800)
Two posts up is the following: Socialist plan provides for creation of 450 communes per year. Sounds like Katrina's dream.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
4Justice, 10/30/2012 10:05:02 PM (No. 8975803)
Naive?? No, she is stupid and evil.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Nevadadad46, 10/30/2012 10:14:32 PM (No. 8975817)
One of the nuanced liberals who learned so much from their studies of Marx and Lenin. She would have us all, then living in her communes, wearing hemp shirts and cracking walnuts for a living rather than working for the evil "non-person, heartless" corporations, like she does!
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
stablemoney, 10/30/2012 10:53:14 PM (No. 8975897)
What kind of mind writes this garbage?
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
ocjim, 10/30/2012 10:55:04 PM (No. 8975899)
''The Republican vision is clear — ‘I got mine. The rest of you are on your own. ’ Republicans say they don’t believe in government. Sure, they do. They believe in government to help themselves and their powerful friends''
Yet another rapacious Republican straw man created and argued by straw man creator par excellence, Katrina vanden Heuvel. You win Katrina... You created your opponent and you knocked him down. Such tripe.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Proudsaber, 10/30/2012 11:04:21 PM (No. 8975914)
Obama is like a cow who no one wants because you can get the milk for free. He is on Leno, Letterman, The view, Stewart, MTV and the list goes on.
Ms Warren is like a wanna be. She wants to be a native american for advantage. She wants to be a lawyer but is not a member of the bar. She is ethically challenaged in using her College office to practice law out of
Ms Heuvel has hitched her wagon to dribble.
The meek shall inherit the earth not Ms Heuvel.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
right-turn, 10/30/2012 11:38:57 PM (No. 8975959)
There has been a theory that if an ape has a typewriter and types enough random letters it would eventually produce words. It just happened!
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
tunnelrat, 10/30/2012 11:49:33 PM (No. 8975969)
"I got mine. The rest of you are on your own."
That must be a standard talking point. I've had a relative (union rep) say nearly the same words.
She was put down, gently, tenderly, kindly, yet put down just the same, by my #3 son. Sometimes life is worth it.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
veritas, 10/31/2012 1:43:24 AM (No. 8976044)
To address a single point only: corporate personhood.
This is hardly a new, novel, unknown, or bizarre concept. But it is eminently necessary.
Here's a simple demonstration of why -- you are injured by a product of Megacorp, Inc. So, do you want to file suit against Megacorp? Or each of it's 27 million shareholders?
And a general comment -- #32: Agreed, and thank you. There are posts that simply add nothing, and that despoil the civility here, the civility that very much sets this site apart and above.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
Trigger2, 10/31/2012 5:34:19 AM (No. 8976117)
Katrina is channeling demonrats here. It's the demonrats who are raiding the tax payers to help themselves and their powerful friends. Think non-stimulous. Think failed green energy. Think Chrysler & GM. Think Obamacare. Think no Senate passed budgets (that way all the continuing resolutions automatically increase the budget by 6-8%).
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
Pepper Tree, 10/31/2012 1:06:54 PM (No. 8977063)
To find a snobbier elitist than Katrina vanden Heuvel you have to locate either Anna Wintour, (Vogue Editor) Nancy Pelosi, or Hillary Clinton. And there she is lecturing us about those evil, "I got mine" corporate types.
I don't want to pay for Sandra Fluck's Boyfriend's varietous prophylactic inventory, or her pills. But according to Katrina, (the snob, not the hurricane) that makes me just as bad as the corporatists and filthy-rich Romney's of the world.
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