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Topic: Hurricane Sandy: Could it push back the election? |
Hurricane Sandy: Could it push back the election?
Politico, by Alex Guillen
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Posted By:BillboardBabe, 10/30/2012 1:11:40 PM
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| The Federal Emergency Management Agency is preparing for Hurricane Sandy to disrupt next week’s elections, agency Administrator Craig Fugate said Monday afternoon. “We are anticipating that, based on the storm, there could be impacts that would linger into next week and have impacts on the federal election,” Fugate said on a conference call with reporters. But any potential tinkering with Election Day would bring a bevy of legal issues. “Our chief counsel’s been working on making sure that we have the proper guidance,” he added. “We’re going through the regulatory policy and
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Comments: Be sure to read the last two paragraphs on the second page outlining how POTUS can issue an executive order or congress can give POTUS "authority" to postpone or delay elections indefinitely.
Prepare for war.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
awen, 10/30/2012 1:14:21 PM (No. 8974782)
Congress can change the date, but the President does not have the power to postpone the election - legally.
Buckle down everyone. Prepare to vote early or on Tuesday.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
RosietheObserver, 10/30/2012 1:14:32 PM (No. 8974784)
Obama would love to delay the election for about ten or twenty years.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
pigop, 10/30/2012 1:17:35 PM (No. 8974798)
It's not a Federal election, it is 50 separate state elections and FEMA has no standing to postpone elctions whatsoever!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
sardonic, 10/30/2012 1:18:02 PM (No. 8974799)
Saw this coming a mile away
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Davids918, 10/30/2012 1:20:21 PM (No. 8974800)
Remember NJ elections and the shame they pulled with Lautenberg?
They don't care about dates, legalities, or any such thing, except winning.
Funny thing though, if they've had the ability to vote early, then there is NO reason to have delay in the actual election date.
Michelle implored people to vote early because "your sink might be backed up", remember?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
lakerman1, 10/30/2012 1:21:11 PM (No. 8974802)
my bet would be on extending voting days due to the storm. That would give missie barack kardashian plenty of time to perpetrate even more voter fraud in selected places. Don't forget that the democrats almost proposed a re-vote in the 4 florida counties....in 2000.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
cartcart, 10/30/2012 1:22:06 PM (No. 8974805)
Hold the elections and let the chips fall.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
pgvoisin, 10/30/2012 1:27:53 PM (No. 8974824)
Just let them try to do this. I double-dog dare you!
The Romney Campaign, the massive conservative ground game, and the Tea Party will be all over this with video and challenges. As soon as that is known, the cheaters will think twice about risking their identity just to cheat for the One!
The motivation to SAVE America is GREATER than the motivation to CHEAT America!
Romney/Ryan!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
dman, 10/30/2012 1:29:13 PM (No. 8974828)
The main damage was in NJ and NY, rock-solid blue states. Simply concede those electors or extend voting in those states only and proceed with the election in the rest of the country. While we sympathize with the Herculean clean-up task facing the impacted areas, most in the rest of the country have been through disasters of similar intensity, albeit over smaller geographic extent. We're a big country with over 300-million people and a land area over 3-million square miles. As a nation, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. The import of conducting this election in a timely manner supersedes the problems imposed by the Frankenstorm. Extend voting in NY and NJ only? Fine. It won't affect the electoral college outcome anyway. Extend voting nationwide? No way, NerØbama. Legal, Presidental end-around, whatever: no way.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Chillijilli, 10/30/2012 1:29:40 PM (No. 8974831)
He won't DELAY the election, he'll EXTEND the election. Just until, of course, he gets enough votes to win.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
plex, 10/30/2012 1:29:50 PM (No. 8974832)
The Federal election is Dec 17th when the Electoral college votes are taken. Congress can change this date. The electors are chosen by State elections and Congress has designated a day for all State elections. I guess that Congress can change that. The President cannot.
That is not to say he won't try. After all New York and New Jersey is where he expects a lot of votes. Upstate NY might outvote NYC and end up giving the State to Obama. Can't have that!
Not FEMA's call though US code 2 and 3 set the election dates.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
redmom, 10/30/2012 1:34:50 PM (No. 8974847)
Absolutely not. It wasn't postponed during the Civil War, are you telling me have become so incompetent, we can't manage to vote a week after a storm?
Why didn't these cities, in a hurricane prone area, use the week's worth of warning, advertise alternative polling locations and early voting?
This is just another 'wag the dog' option for a corrupt Chicago run, election.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
skillsss, 10/30/2012 1:46:50 PM (No. 8974873)
Pushing it back till after some heavy duty Benghazi Hearings won't help much. Talk about a Catch- 22-tables-got-turned Game changing event. Have your political party deny GOD three times...Have Obama deny three times our courageous patriots on the front lines of Libya asking for aid and support...and watch and learn...Liberals will attribute the storm to "Romney's Global Warming." Lets call it "An Act of God." ROFLAO...heard the Huffington Post was taken down as well...and that crane bent over looks like somebody is flipping the bird to NY...Blue states seem to have been disproportionately given a shower from above ;-( ...seems to me when 15% already voted...the cat is already out of the bag.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
FormerDem, 10/30/2012 1:48:42 PM (No. 8974877)
That will be the end of Zippy if he tries it.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
horacer, 10/30/2012 1:49:41 PM (No. 8974880)
Stock exchange will be up and running tomorrow. Mustn't keep those hedge funds idle. I don't see how the election can be delayed. We're not yet a third world nation.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
californiadude, 10/30/2012 1:50:43 PM (No. 8974885)
#2 you could write one-liner for Letterman or Leno. #9 I dream California goes red next Tuesday. Keep the faith!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Hairy Eyeball, 10/30/2012 1:51:39 PM (No. 8974889)
NJ/NY is not a Hurricane prone area, and this storm was unprecedented, a hurricane wrapped in a nor'easter. There were tropical storm force winds from The NH/Mass border to the NC/VA border at the same time, storm was that big. That said, NO vote delay! (Although two weeks may allow Benghazi facts to bubble up)
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
oh-heck, 10/30/2012 2:03:19 PM (No. 8974903)
Our tin-ear president surely can't be stupid enough to try this. And why should he after Michelle warned the People to get out and vote because there might be a thunderstorm on election day? Keep in mind all the shoes in the air that will start to fall: Taxageddon, laid off defense workers, Medicare Advantage members who will lose their coverage, etc. It will only get worse if he waits.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
biggun, 10/30/2012 2:04:54 PM (No. 8974904)
I believe that election date is written into the Constitution: 1st Tuesday in November. Neither Congress nor Obama can change it. It would require a Constitutional amendment.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Photoonist, 10/30/2012 2:08:07 PM (No. 8974916)
As noted this will mainly affect areas that are already assumed to be going for 0bama in a big way. So the worst that happens is that 0bama drops even more in the popular vote. Others who aren't excited about voting just needed another excuse NOT to vote and even any (illegal) extension won't get them out.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Chillijilli, 10/30/2012 2:08:43 PM (No. 8974918)
QUOTE: The bottom line here is that many folks who were countin on votin simply can't get to their pollin places. The subways won't be runnin and its my duty to make sure ALL folks get a chance to exercise their constitutional rights. And so, in the face of this disaster. I am therefore EXTENDING, not changing, the deadline to vote...We Americans are united in our belief that ALL Americans must be treated equally...
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Chillijilli, 10/30/2012 2:11:46 PM (No. 8974925)
Oops. I meant future quote. Sorry
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
mabelkitty, 10/30/2012 2:11:56 PM (No. 8974927)
It is not necessary. You've had the chance to vote absentee and early for weeks now. If you lost your window to vote, tough.
We don't need Democrats manufacturing absentee ballots with hanging chads in the basement of Precinct committeemen.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
mabelkitty, 10/30/2012 2:14:28 PM (No. 8974931)
Folks have a pencil. Folks have a mailbox. If folks didn't pre-plan, too bad. Nobody, but nobody will support this power grab.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Muncsdad, 10/30/2012 2:15:07 PM (No. 8974933)
Sadly, there will be rioting in the streets no matter what. But if Zero tries this, it won't be the usual suspects taking up arms. We will to defend this nation from tyranny.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
thelmalou, 10/30/2012 2:20:17 PM (No. 8974938)
Whatever. I'm with #20...this can only hurt him.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
kennedylaw, 10/30/2012 2:51:12 PM (No. 8974993)
Art. I, Sec. 1 of the Constitution requires that all of the electoral college electors vote on the same day, but does not require that they all be selected on the same day.
How electoral college electors are selected is expressly left up to each of the State legislatures; however, the Constitution is silent about when the electors have to be selected by the States. So federal statute spells out when the electors need to be selected.
Under 3 U.S.C. § 1, each State is required to appoint its electors (whether by direct election or otherwise) on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November.
3 U.S.C. § 1: "Time of appointing electors. The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President."
Under 3 U.S.C. § 2, if a State legislature decides to select the State's electors by direct election (which all 50 states have elected to do) and the State is unable to choose them on election day (which would apply if the state had to cancel elections because of weather), then it is up to the state legislature to determine how to and when to appoint the State's electors.
3 U.S.C. § 2: "Failure to make choice on prescribed day. Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct."
So the simple answer is if a natural disaster hits on election day, then the affected states can cancel or postpone their elections without affecting the elections in any other states.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
EQKimball, 10/30/2012 2:52:45 PM (No. 8974998)
My guess is that he will publicly appeal to Romney to join him in going to Congress or the courts to extend the election on the east coast--ironically in the same way John McCain appealed to him to join him back at the Senate in the wake of the meltdown of the economy in October of 2008. Then, according to the press McCain was the drama queen compared to "no-Drama Obama." Now, the press will put maximum pressure on Romney to put country over politics.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
bobgray2, 10/30/2012 3:04:23 PM (No. 8975022)
There is no reason for the rest of the country to change the date of the election. So let the rest of the country vote as scheduled, and let the affected states delay their elections as needed, within reason. These particular states may not even matter in this presidential election, since I don't think anyone expects any surprises in the outcome.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
ocho reales, 10/30/2012 3:31:07 PM (No. 8975065)
I may be mistaken but I do not believe that presidential elections have ever been cancelled or postponed in the history of our nation. If they have please correct me and cite the occasion.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
bighambone, 10/30/2012 10:34:47 PM (No. 8975866)
Pushing back the election could well backfire on the Obama crew, as this was a massive storm that caused a huge amount of damage, the further out they go from the date of the storm, the more chance they have of a lot of things going wrong in the relief and reconstruction efforts and the blame being put on the federal government.
The election across the country should go forward next Tuesday, if New York and New Jersey want to wait so be it, but the voting results from all the other States would be known by the time New York and New Jersey vote, and that fact could serve to suppress the Democrat vote in those two States.
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