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Panetta Says We Lacked
Real-Time Benghazi Intel

Investor's Business Daily, by Staff

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Posted By:HollowLeg, 10/26/2012 10:25:15 PM

Despite real-time video, emails to the White House and desperate cries for help, our defense secretary says we didn't send rescue forces to our Benghazi consulate because we didn't know what was going on. In a statement bordering on the Kafkaesque, Leon Panetta told a news conference Thursday that four Americans, including our Libyan ambassador Chris Stevens, were left to die without a rescue attempt by nearby U.S. military forces because there's "a basic principle here, and the basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on,

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If Sandra Fluke Or Lilly Ledbetter had been at our Benghazi consulate, Obama and Panetta would have sent in the 82nd Airborne to rescue them.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 10/26/2012 10:30:43 PM     (No. 8965923)

Panetta is shoveling Bravo Sierra --just like the rest of the surrender monkeys in the 0b@$tard administration. Not just shoveling. They're using a D9.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Mike PHX, 10/26/2012 10:33:38 PM     (No. 8965930)

This administration lacks any intel whatsoever...even the common kind.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: janylou, 10/26/2012 10:45:46 PM     (No. 8965947)

You got a drone overhead and watching in real time. You got boots on the ground feeding you intel. How much more do you need?


Reply 4 - Posted by: Nimby, 10/26/2012 10:46:10 PM     (No. 8965948)

Time for all this lying, cheating administration to be sent packing.


Reply 5 - Posted by: Th-Gr-Sil-Majority, 10/26/2012 10:48:45 PM     (No. 8965954)

...this may make the top of the list as the most inept administration in the history of the United States...

...when possible they lead from behind and mimic Sgt Schultz..."I know nothing...."


Reply 6 - Posted by: janylou, 10/26/2012 10:50:14 PM     (No. 8965955)

One more thing to answer Panetta. Only a coward would say what you said. Ty Woods didn't know what he was getting into but he rushed to help any way and saved lives. Who would I rather have as SOD, you gutless coward or someone like Ty Woods?!


Reply 7 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 10/26/2012 10:52:41 PM     (No. 8965956)

Soooo right #3, and it dovetails with OPs comment...remember this incident of a Cessna 180 innocently breaching Zero's airspace over Seattle in early 2010? TWO F-15s launcched and immediatly went supersonic and covered the 150 miles from the Portland area to Seattle in minutes, thoroughly shaking downtown Seattle early afternoon...F16s Sigonella, Italy would have covered the 400 miles to Benghazi in no time and the WartHogs cuda been there in 2hours...


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: god of irony, 10/26/2012 10:55:47 PM     (No. 8965959)

This will be Panetta`s defining moment. No matter what he has done in the past or will do in the future, he will always be known as a cowardous traitor.


Reply 9 - Posted by: qmcgs, 10/26/2012 10:57:12 PM     (No. 8965960)

Lieutenant Kaminsky (played by Neville Brand), to Captain John Earle (played by Richard Anderson, who also played Maj. Saint-Auban in Paths of Glory): You wanted confirmation, Captain? Take a look! There's your confirmation! (Scene outside the window of Pearl Harbor in smoke and flames.)

Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970)

Speaking of Paths of Glory (1957)
Colonel Dax to General Broulard: I apologize, sir, for not telling you sooner that you're a degenerate, sadistic old man.


Reply 10 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 10/26/2012 11:02:23 PM     (No. 8965968)

They can't have it both ways. Are they calling those in the area liars ?

Shillary still blaming the movie ?

Give it up and do right by the families of the deceased.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Robinsolana, 10/26/2012 11:04:16 PM     (No. 8965971)

Obama will use the military.
Obama will hide behind the military.
Obama will slash the military.
And when the 3AM call comes Obama will abandon the military and lie about it in the morning.


Reply 12 - Posted by: faldo, 10/26/2012 11:11:45 PM     (No. 8965981)

This gang lacks real-time LEADERSHIP...!


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: trapper, 10/26/2012 11:12:02 PM     (No. 8965983)

That's just a bald faced lie. They were getting real time intel from the scene from the CIA annex, the consulate, and a drone circling over head. Our guy on the annex roof was painting the mortar location with a laser so an aircraft could hit it with guided missiles. An aircraft that never came. Panetta, Obama, or both, made the decision to watch and do nothing. The scope of their betrayal is breathtaking.

America will send a million to rescue 4. And 4 brave Americans will volunteer to rescue a million. You cannot order a hero to be a coward. He will refuse the order.


Reply 14 - Posted by: dr fate, 10/26/2012 11:12:33 PM     (No. 8965985)

This regime and everyone in it's orbit are a pack of rabid liars. Only a clueless fool would give any credence to what they say about anything.


Reply 15 - Posted by: wtm, 10/26/2012 11:14:19 PM     (No. 8965988)

What's Panetta going to do when the video is on the 110 news ???


Reply 16 - Posted by: wtm, 10/26/2012 11:15:44 PM     (No. 8965991)

Sorry, that should be 110 news


Reply 17 - Posted by: wtm, 10/26/2012 11:16:28 PM     (No. 8965996)

Still won't list it right.....

11 o'clock news........


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: Constitutional, 10/26/2012 11:21:58 PM     (No. 8966006)

It's ok, poster #16/17/18.

A glitch in this site keeps fouling up the text any time anyone tries to type a time. Something about the placement of the colon triggers an incorrect html tag. It's been complained about before.


Reply 19 - Posted by: ivehadit, 10/26/2012 11:23:40 PM     (No. 8966011)

Not one product on one single alphabet station (abccbsnbccnnpbsmsnbc) should be bought by anyone. It is beyond time to send a message to the old media that we are NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS CORRUPTION at worst, bias at the least anymore.

IT IS THE JOB OF THE MEDIA TO HOLD PUBLIC OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE...to dig for the truth. WHERE ARE THEY?? Their behavior is shameless.

One good thing: the old media are being exposed as USELESS for democracy.


Reply 20 - Posted by: coldoc, 10/27/2012 12:04:11 AM     (No. 8966073)

Shat we are lacking is real time leaders instead of a bunch of PC idiots who think they are supervising a kindergarten playground. Panetta, like the rest of this crowd, are incompetent to the point of criminality.


Reply 21 - Posted by: coldoc, 10/27/2012 12:04:57 AM     (No. 8966075)

What.... I am so PO'd I can't see straight.


Reply 22 - Posted by: Sully, 10/27/2012 12:11:15 AM     (No. 8966081)

No real time intelligence?? How about using a telephone?????

How about: "CALL AMBASSADOR STEVENS AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON!"

This giant ball of hokum is surreal.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: horacer, 10/27/2012 12:44:03 AM     (No. 8966103)

Really stupid thing to say. You have real time intel, what you don't have is certainty. You're not sure what the enemies strength is, what weaponry they possess or an accurate count of their numbers. You never do in a hot, combat environment. 100% accurate intel should never be the deciding factor. The deciding factor is do you leave your brothers to die or do you attempt to save them. We don't abandon our brothers on the battlefield. Obama turned his back on our brothers and went to bed.


Reply 24 - Posted by: zbogwan2, 10/27/2012 1:27:11 AM     (No. 8966141)

Our Benghazi Consulate was being attacked and that's the key here. It doesn't matter who the attackers are/were or why they were attacking. Help was requested many times by the Benghazi Consulate's defenders and none ever came.

I wonder if Obama, Biden, Hillary and the rest of the real time watchers of the attack had popcorn and sodas brought in while they all oohed and awed as the mortars blew up and killed our Seals????


Reply 25 - Posted by: danu, 10/27/2012 3:09:25 AM     (No. 8966182)

Billzabubba, father of lies, must be green w/ envy at such real-time mendacity


Reply 26 - Posted by: flatwater, 10/27/2012 3:30:34 AM     (No. 8966194)

B.S.


Reply 27 - Posted by: Trigger2, 10/27/2012 4:30:19 AM     (No. 8966216)

Panetta is an outright liar or the biggest bullsheet artist in kingdom come.


Reply 28 - Posted by: Phil_hk, 10/27/2012 4:32:50 AM     (No. 8966217)

There is no more explicit example of media bias than the way this is not being reported


Reply 29 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 10/27/2012 6:01:59 AM     (No. 8966258)

Obama's 3 a.m. call came at four in the afternoon, and he still slept through it.

Panetta is a weasel. And on Lou Dobbs last night, ex-CIA man Scheuer said Obama, as CIC, is despicable.


Reply 30 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 10/27/2012 7:07:48 AM     (No. 8966328)

The Marxists in the White House never sent even any 'horses or bayonets' to protect that consulate.


Reply 31 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/27/2012 7:09:29 AM     (No. 8966334)

That is a lie.


Reply 32 - Posted by: franq, 10/27/2012 7:22:41 AM     (No. 8966353)

I have had the misfortune to live through 3 Dim presidents in my life, and every one of them has been an abject failure when it came to foreign policy. We're not talking knowing when to stand at a dinner for the Queen of England. We're talking bumbling, foolish, inept policies and responses(or lack thereof)that put American lives in danger!


Reply 33 - Posted by: suejeanne, 10/27/2012 7:31:36 AM     (No. 8966368)

"All the President's Men" was on TCM last night - Woodward and Bernstein, why don't you team up again?


Reply 34 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/27/2012 7:35:31 AM     (No. 8966374)

Just exactly, what were Panetta's qualifications for this job again?


Reply 35 - Posted by: WimeTarmerFable, 10/27/2012 7:49:59 AM     (No. 8966399)

Leon Panetta shouldn't even be in charge of the Service Department of Planet Preowned on the Parkway. (Used Car Dealership that USED to be a Chrysler dealer until King Bozo Oldsmobile took it away from the Matthews Family...)


Reply 36 - Posted by: franq, 10/27/2012 7:55:02 AM     (No. 8966415)

Make that 4 Dim presidents, though I was pre-teen during LBJ.


Reply 37 - Posted by: uno, 10/27/2012 8:04:38 AM     (No. 8966439)

Panetta actually insults the term "Lying through his teeth with this bunch of garbage!
I guess we are supposed to believe that they couldn't get the cast iron hot-air surveillance balloon up in time...
So Leon, you're saying that you would have done something if you had just only known?
What exactly would you have done if you had just only known?
Who are you court martialing or indicting for not telling you?
Are you not aware that you sound like an explitive deleted moron?
People running around concocting lies, stories and excuses is a very clear and direct indication of a severe lack of leadership!!


Reply 38 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 10/27/2012 8:08:04 AM     (No. 8966446)

Panetta- sounds like an Italian bread. Sorry guy, we found out a little it too much for your story to hold. Get back in the oven.


Reply 39 - Posted by: vwlarry, 10/27/2012 8:09:01 AM     (No. 8966449)

According to Panetta, we cannot send in soldiers until we know they'll be safe.

Wait....

WHAT?????


Reply 40 - Posted by: LZK, 10/27/2012 8:35:02 AM     (No. 8966501)

Funny -- this administration reminds me of bubba clinton's administration -- all BS.....

LZK


Reply 41 - Posted by: DoktorFranken, 10/27/2012 8:55:29 AM     (No. 8966544)

From what I have read there were PLENTY EYES on the scene, a very comprehensive SITREP from them being communicated to CIA, military, and the WH, drones at the scene giving REAL-TIME vid feeds, CIA guy on the roof LASER PAINTING the mortars for whomever that would show up... what the HELL? Our country couldn't send a few missiles or drones in there within 7 HOURS? Troops were less than 90-120 minutes away.

Even AT THE TIME, someone should have done SOMETHING! Hell, TWO UNARMED ex-SEALs showed up, grabbed guns discarded by the alleged Libyan "guards", and KILLED SIXTY attackers and rescued 30 employees!! It took that mortar fire to take THEM out (the one that the CIA was laser-painting).

Panetta - YOU need to be charged with TREASON as well. You are a disgrace to America.


Reply 42 - Posted by: Rinktum, 10/27/2012 9:07:38 AM     (No. 8966575)

Obama and his cronies are unworthy of the offices they hold. Was there no one in the situation room who argued for the rescue of these four men? If there was one, he needs to come forward with the truth.


Reply 43 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 10/27/2012 9:40:14 AM     (No. 8966634)

Panetta is a lawyer and a political hack. All he knows about this sort of thing is what they tell him.


Reply 44 - Posted by: angelesgift, 10/27/2012 9:46:44 AM     (No. 8966646)

Maybe the empty chair needs to explain to his defense secretary about how we don't need a large navy or armed forces because they are so much better equipped, powerful, etc.

Did Panetta seriously think the Afghan terrorists had a nuclear bomb or some other such overwhelming threat that he needed to hesitate to send our far superior forces and weapons? Absolutely NONE of the administrations's representatives have said one thing that hasn't made them fall into the category of being either a jackass or a liar, or both.


Reply 45 - Posted by: papasparky, 10/27/2012 10:02:18 AM     (No. 8966678)

34, my misfortune runs deeper than yours, it starts with FDR.

The assessment of my list of modern day Presidents includes; LBJ, biggest liar, JEC, most inept, and WJC, most immoral.

JFK and LBJ were contenders for the immoral award but failed to outdo clintoon.

And then, along came BHO who eclipsed all previous categories and established a new one; most treasonous.

He Won the Bozo Statue at the Infamy Awards in all categories his first term.

Harry Truman was the only good Democrat President in almost 100 years - he stood tall and respected the office when leadership was sorely needed.


Reply 46 - Posted by: Griz70, 10/27/2012 10:03:27 AM     (No. 8966681)

Treason! Treason! Treason! What more needs to be said?


Reply 47 - Posted by: starboard, 10/27/2012 10:07:56 AM     (No. 8966690)

They talk about the fog of war. What a joke! It's more like the fog of leadership and competence. This is an inconvenient truth and they are all (including Hillary) at fault.


Reply 48 - Posted by: krause, 10/27/2012 10:13:27 AM     (No. 8966715)

I'm imagining Holder writing up charges on the 2 Seals for disobeying orders and going to the rescue.


Reply 49 - Posted by: geoman, 10/27/2012 10:13:35 AM     (No. 8966716)

Since his election, Obama has never made a military decision. He had made political decisions involving the military, which is far different. His boy Petraeus is no different from the panty-waisted flag officer corps whose primary mission is to elevate muslims and gays as exemplars of our fighting forces.


Reply 50 - Posted by: Flyball dogs, 10/27/2012 10:45:46 AM     (No. 8966818)

All good comments. However, I' m still waiting for the Motive for delaying and/or ignoring pleas for help. Am I missing something? And as Fenway Frank said: "You want a blindfold?"


Reply 51 - Posted by: sadc, 10/27/2012 10:49:57 AM     (No. 8966834)

But his imbecillic fans chant, "he really cares about us, talks like us and thinks like us". You have part of that right, thinks like you... maybe but clearly does he care a bit about those people in the battle for their lives and watched as they lost, when he had to power to help? If that =caring, then I don't buy it. But, if another teen like Trayvon pops up, ( but not in Chicago or Detroit- we don't care about you) then we bring out the race hustlers, Sharpton and Jackson and make a federal case of it.


Reply 52 - Posted by: franq, 10/27/2012 11:01:51 AM     (No. 8966881)

Yes, #46, next thing you know Carney Barkey will be claiming they couldn't muster the horses in time...


Reply 53 - Posted by: jackie, 10/27/2012 11:06:37 AM     (No. 8966898)

I am sure The squatter and Mooch went to bed that night after doing their "fist bump" celebration..


Reply 54 - Posted by: Smaj, 10/27/2012 11:14:32 AM     (No. 8966917)

#14 is eloquently spot on. Panetta, with that despicable, lying crapweasel Dempsey sitting next to him, lied outright to the American people. The key decision makers in the WH, Pentagon, CIA, State and AFRICOM knew within minutes what was going on, in real time. To do nothing to help those men in Benghazi is just criminal negligence. And cowardly to boot. People, starting with Obama, need to go to jail over this.


Reply 55 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 10/27/2012 11:26:45 AM     (No. 8966944)

Good God! I actually once thought that Panetta had a modicum - - a smidgen - - of integrity.

What a lying whore he really is!

And that military guy also shilling for the treasonous Zippy administration. Execute them both!


Reply 56 - Posted by: Butch59, 10/27/2012 11:58:38 AM     (No. 8967042)

Maybe I didn't learn about it in my History classes as I grew up, but did we have "real time intel" during the attack of Pearl Harbor? Did FDR have to launch an investigation of who did what and why? And promise to bring the perps. to "justice"? And did our military have to make sure that no "innocent bystanders" are harmed.

The shear stupidity of Panetta's remarks are beyond belief. Any one of us who have spent even one term in the military knows how stupid it is. When we are attacked, we fight back as soon and as hard as we can. With every thing we have available. None on that happened here and 4 Americans died needlessly. I, like all others here, am sick to my stomach over it.


Reply 57 - Posted by: Browneyes, 10/27/2012 12:08:35 PM     (No. 8967071)

# 52,I suggest that months ago,this administration made a committment that regardless of any outcomes resulting in "uprisings in Country", under no circumstances shall anyone on "my team" retaliate. Tripoli must remain as our conduit to reflect my Administration's effort to support Democracy in that part of the world. The Ambassador will be phasing out our assets in Benghazi as part of my cost-cutting promise to the American people.


Reply 58 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 10/27/2012 1:08:59 PM     (No. 8967253)

Even the obama media knows this is a flat-out lie and now they've made the decision to flat-out ignore the entire debacle. Joseph Goebbles must be laughing in his grave.


Reply 59 - Posted by: NotaBene, 10/27/2012 2:14:58 PM     (No. 8967407)

Panetta was meeting with Hussein in the White House as Tyrone Woods was asking permission to rescue Amb. Stevens. Panetta, Clinton and Obama will have to explain what did they know and when did they know it.

General Petreus has declared that the CIA is not to blame for the cowardice.


Reply 60 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/27/2012 2:17:27 PM     (No. 8967418)

There are 3 lines of comminication from the Ambassador to the WH. One is a hot line.
The message that would be sent on the hot line was "Ambassador in Peril". THAT message had to be confirmed as received. Then that message MUST be given directly to the President face to face.
Mark Levin checked Obama's schedule on 9/11 and he returned to the WH at 4:50, and at 50 was in a private meeting with the VP and DOD. He knew then. No doubt in my mind.


Reply 61 - Posted by: sonofboomercat, 10/27/2012 2:21:35 PM     (No. 8967434)

And even now, information is creeping out that an AC-130 may have on station awaiting an order to release weapons. It never came.
While our SEALS painted the mortar location with a laser, that's not something they would do unless there was an AC-130 or possibly an armed drone ready to put ordnance on target.

All those lies have a bad habit of eventually biting the liars in the butt.


Reply 62 - Posted by: Photoonist, 10/27/2012 2:45:10 PM     (No. 8967489)

Now here's a definite impeachable offense, lying to Congress and falsifying information in reporting. Phone calls, e-mails and a drone overhead and Panetta is automatically lying. He should be summoned to Congress, have this evidence thrown in his face and told he must resign that day or be impeached the next. Grow some, Republicans. Make the Democrats try to defend the indefensible. Imagine the testimony from the families of those killed and how it would completely demolish the 0bama regime and any Democrat who tries to defend this.


Reply 63 - Posted by: bob913, 10/27/2012 3:55:50 PM     (No. 8967652)

An outright lie.

obama was willing let 30 Americans be killed.
I want to know why!
I want him and his supporters in prison.


Reply 64 - Posted by: 1931K, 10/27/2012 6:52:21 PM     (No. 8967993)

How in the Hell did a Freak like Panetta get in a position that he could destroy "GOOD AMERICAN PATRIOTS LIVES"????


Reply 65 - Posted by: rlwo, 10/27/2012 7:55:06 PM     (No. 8968105)

It's not like they needed to deploy a division. I remember we had a Flash designation in which a report of immediate need for the right people to get the information. It always went to the White House, always, along with the CIA and the NSA in those days. Sent one a long time ago when monitoring CHICOM PLA activities during "The Great Cultural Revolution."


Reply 66 - Posted by: osprey21, 10/27/2012 8:11:27 PM     (No. 8968128)

Mr Panetta, you sir are DIRT.


Reply 67 - Posted by: Idaho Spud, 10/28/2012 12:02:54 AM     (No. 8968551)

Obama is a KGB plant. Panetta gave a eulogy at the funeral for Frank Marshall Davis, known communist and said by some obummers real father (see side by side pictures for comparison)? We have communist infiltration at the highest level of our government.



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Posted By: Scottyboy- 5/21/2013 3:53:35 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON – A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups. Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd. Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight committee Wednesday.

Anthony Weiner announces NYC mayor run
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Politico, by Kevin Robillard    Original Article
Posted By: Scottyboy- 5/22/2013 6:06:40 AM     Post Reply
Former Rep. Anthony Weiner, whose career in public life came to an abrupt end when he sent lewd pictures to a college student on Twitter, jumped back into politics on Wednesday by announcing a bid for mayor of New York City. “Look, I’ve made some big mistakes and I know I’ve let a lot of people down,” the Democrat said in a 2-minute video announcing his bid. “But I’ve also learned some tough lessons. I’m running for mayor because I’ve been fighting for the middle class and those struggling to make it for my entire life.

Howard Dean: ‘Benghazi
is a Laughable Joke’

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National Review Online, by Andrew Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 5/21/2013 11:59:15 AM     Post Reply
Former Democratic National committee chairman Howard Dean considers the controversy over Benghazi a “joke” and “silly.” “Benghazi is a laughable joke,” Dean proclaimed twice in a discussion with Republican National Committee communications chairman Sean Spicer last week. “With all due respect, governor, when four Americans die serving this country, that’s not a joke, sir,” Spicer responded. “Oh, stop it,” said Dean. The former Democratic presidential candidate also said that there were “no serious questions being asked about Benghazi” and brushed it off as an effort by Republicans to score political points.

A Crack in the IRS Dam
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Power Line, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 5/21/2013 10:50:44 PM     Post Reply
The dam protecting the IRS scandal began to crack today when Lois Lerner, the IRS official who announced, and apologized for, the improper singling out of conservative-leaning organizations by IRS employees under her command, announced through her criminal defense lawyer that she will not testify as scheduled tomorrow before the House Oversight Committee. Rather, she will assert her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. This marks an enormous milestone in the IRS investigation. It can now be taken as more or less established that crimes were committed by Obama administration employees. Lerner’s lawyer tried to minimize the significance

If Your Doctor Asks You About
Guns, Do You Have to Answer?

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Fox News, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 5/20/2013 1:12:07 PM     Post Reply
Stuart Varney said this morning on "Varney & Co." that one of his producers was given a questionnaire with some surprisingly intrusive questions on it when he switched doctors. One of the questions was whether he/she was concerned about unsecured weapons in the home. Another asked whether he/she was "in a relationship in which you have been physically hurt or are you afraid of your partner?" Judge Andrew Napolitano explained that the question about guns comes out of a post-Sandy Hook executive order by President Obama, but it will be required under Obamacare. Varney expressed amazement


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