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It's official in Florida:
Blacks can't be held to
same standards

American Thinker, by Thomas Lifson

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Posted By:magnante, 10/14/2012 9:24:10 AM

The deep internal contradictions of liberal race dogma have reached their logical, horrifying conclusion at the hands of the Florida State Board of Education. CBS Tampa reports: The Florida State Board of Education passed a plan that sets goals for students in math and reading based upon their race. On Tuesday, the board passed a revised strategic plan that says that by 2018, it wants 90 percent of Asian students, 88 percent of white students, 81 percent of Hispanics and 74 percent of black students to be reading at or above grade level.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Keekng, 10/14/2012 9:31:41 AM     (No. 8931973)

Blatant, condescending racism. Will the NAACP or any other representing group speak out against it or are they for it?


Reply 2 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 10/14/2012 9:35:05 AM     (No. 8931980)

most important line (IMHO) from the article:

So when a major liberal interest groups like teachers (and their unions) run up against the fallacious multicultural doctrine of cultural equivalency, self interest wins out. And the children lose. That is the leitmotif of public education for the last half century.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: supersid, 10/14/2012 9:35:10 AM     (No. 8931981)

There is a racial hierarchy of acceptable achievement proclaimed an official government body. Not since the days of segregation has a state officially proclaimed such a pernicious racial doctrine.

(Not so soft) bigotry of low expectations. Liberals are telling some racial groups that they are simply incapable of achieving.


Reply 4 - Posted by: garyhope, 10/14/2012 9:36:47 AM     (No. 8931983)

I wonder if Al and Jesse are warming up their private jets to fly in to Florida and protest this? Are they insulted or do they just want more "free" stuff with less effort for the bro's.

Meanwhile, the "Asians" are kicking everyone's butt. Could it be because they're working harder, have more discipline and stronger, more cohesive family units? Maybe we should all take lessons from them.


Reply 5 - Posted by: lakerman1, 10/14/2012 9:40:40 AM     (No. 8931992)

What do you think happens with affirmative action admits at the college/universiy level? The professor winds up lowering standards for the entire class. (I know, since I had to do that.)
The lowering of standards does not take place, however, in math and science classes. That's why minorities, except for asians, avoid math and science.


Reply 6 - Posted by: J F Ackerman, 10/14/2012 9:50:32 AM     (No. 8932012)

I'd like to know what Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell think of this. They did go against the Bush administration in the Michigan affirmative action case all those years ago. Would be interesting if they still endorse dumbing down for blacks (aka affirmative action).


Reply 7 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 10/14/2012 9:52:09 AM     (No. 8932015)

"It's official in Florida" -- it's been unofficial everywhere since about 1965.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: Nimby, 10/14/2012 9:52:21 AM     (No. 8932016)

Is they cannot catch up with their peers in reading and writing, why are we giving them a leg up through affirmative action? This is what is wrong with this country. I put the blame fair and square on SandraDay O'Connor


Reply 9 - Posted by: Cannon, 10/14/2012 9:57:59 AM     (No. 8932027)

Wow. This is wrong and disturbing on so many different levels that I am speechless. I just hope that the fact that this is wrong resonates with most people.


Reply 10 - Posted by: god of irony, 10/14/2012 10:04:14 AM     (No. 8932035)

Martin Luther King would have been disgusted.

BTW what if a kid has a mom that is half hispanic and chinese and a dad that that is half black, one quarter polynesnian and one quarter white? What is his reading standard?


Reply 11 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 10/14/2012 10:13:32 AM     (No. 8932050)

It's not that black people cannot excel, But it is a fact that black children raised within the cultural milieu which presently exists are not able to rise above it and it's no use beating the teachers up for not being able to lift them.


Reply 12 - Posted by: mc squared, 10/14/2012 10:15:46 AM     (No. 8932053)

For decades, public schools have been nothing but babysitting services anyway.

Keep them off the street, away from crime (as much as possible), teach them enough to get a job that allows them to pay taxes and vote 'gimme' all their lives.

This proves it.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 10/14/2012 10:21:58 AM     (No. 8932070)

After watching Lib/Progs practice their brand of racism for half a century, I've had to conclude that Blacks-as-a-Whole just do not possess the intelligence to grasp the situation. Many do. But looking at the stats, most do not. Even the get up every morning and go to work, pay their bills, live by the rules Blacks still fall for the Bravo Sierra malarkey shoveled by the Race Hustlers. If they didn't, they would eschew the Lib/Progs, the NAACP, the Jesses and Als of the world, kick them to the curb, and our world would change dramatically.


Reply 14 - Posted by: JAN, 10/14/2012 10:24:29 AM     (No. 8932073)

The NAACP has spoken out against these new standards....

They called it the soft bigotry of lowered expectations.

Didn't we hear those exact words from President GW Bush?

Yes we did!


Reply 15 - Posted by: Keekng, 10/14/2012 10:25:39 AM     (No. 8932078)

The Unions are largely responsible for this idiocy. They do not want teachers to be judged when children do not succeed so they lower the bar. Unions operate using a communist-socialist mindset that all teachers should receive equally. Let's face facts, Unions are now running the Florida State Board of Education.


Reply 16 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 10/14/2012 10:31:42 AM     (No. 8932092)

I am not sure I understand the thinking or the policy here, but from one angle it looks like an acknowledgement of reality. It might be -emphasis MIGHT be- a step in the right direction. Surely everybody knows that as a group blacks significantly under-perform other populations in academics, There is no secret about this. Great effort and ingenuity have been used before now to deny this or to explain it away by blaming extrinsic factors. But such excuses and explanations did nothing to address the problem. They were aimed at making people feel good - or keeping them from feeling bad. There was, and in many quarters still is, an unexamined assumption that all groups are supposed to be equally able in all respects, hence that there is supposed to be a statistically satisfactory outcome or representation of all groups in all undertakings. This preposterous notion is a kind of reductio ad absurdum of egalite'.

So I am not so sure that setting (presumably) realistic goals for student populations and working to attain them is such a bad idea. It acknowledges a reality that many people find unpleasant, but it is better than blaming the tests and evaluation methods or rationalizing the hard evidence away.


Reply 17 - Posted by: planetgeo, 10/14/2012 10:33:41 AM     (No. 8932093)

In effect, the Florida Board of Education has graded the races and their ability and desire to excel. According to this report card, they (not I) believe that blacks are too stupid and lazy to do as well as all the other races. Amazing.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: 6079 Smith, W, 10/14/2012 10:34:17 AM     (No. 8932096)

But, you see, the liberals are discriminating FOR Blacks. Discrimination is bad only when you are discriminating AGAINST Blacks, women, gays, handicapped...but when you are FOR them it is ok. What they don't grasp is that you can't discriminate FOR without discriminating AGAINST everyone else.
Plus this will now allow blacks to aim low and be satisfied with less than the could be.


Reply 19 - Posted by: Janice5100, 10/14/2012 10:34:47 AM     (No. 8932098)

As a parent I would be so angry that my child is considered too stupid to keep up with the scores of Asians etc.


Reply 20 - Posted by: fire_mission, 10/14/2012 10:41:32 AM     (No. 8932113)

So what about the standards for Free Throws in gym class.


Reply 21 - Posted by: right-turn, 10/14/2012 10:46:15 AM     (No. 8932123)

Here is the link to the names and pictures of the board. Bet it's not what you think.
http://www.fldoe.org/board/members.asp


Reply 22 - Posted by: Janjan, 10/14/2012 10:49:11 AM     (No. 8932128)

Most people would be insulted by this. This is totally lost on the black population. A lot of them think it is their 'right' to have lower standards.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: kanphil, 10/14/2012 10:52:43 AM     (No. 8932138)

Responsible black leaders--and there are some--should be raising holy hell about this.


Reply 24 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 10/14/2012 10:55:34 AM     (No. 8932147)

19 - that's IF - as a parent - you give a damn. Sadly, many don't...


Reply 25 - Posted by: MattMusson, 10/14/2012 10:58:04 AM     (No. 8932153)

The latest research suggests that Testosterone is a detriment to academic excellence. Groups perform inversely to the amount of Testosterone in their systems.

Asians - low

Whites - average

blacks - highest.


Reply 26 - Posted by: saryden, 10/14/2012 11:01:43 AM     (No. 8932159)

Where was the outcry when Obama signed his Exec. Order #13621 --White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans???
This order says the number of blacks kicked out of school cannot be greater than the number of whites and others. This means that in order to punish misbehaving blacks, whites and others must be kicked out for the least infractions in order to keep numbers even. We have a RACIST president... but we knew that.
What many do still not realize is that we have a Marxist/Islamist president.
What a Commander-in-Chief to give our heroic troops in their fight against Communist or Islamist takeover!!


Reply 27 - Posted by: farmwife, 10/14/2012 11:04:41 AM     (No. 8932168)

So, I guess it's ok to leave some kids behind.


Reply 28 - Posted by: WayneDavis, 10/14/2012 11:05:27 AM     (No. 8932169)

This is nothing new of course.

The democrats have been in charge of demeaning blacks in this country the last few hundred years through slavery, the KKK, Jim Crowe laws, the vote and segregation, among other things, and now of course, their single minded and destructive racism continues through segregated education.

The liberal mindset compartmentalizes people and puts each of us in our special category. They speak of nuance while placing each of us in our special slot with no room for argument. They label everyone but themselves.

They have never changed.


Reply 29 - Posted by: disasterman, 10/14/2012 11:08:18 AM     (No. 8932173)

#21 They are exactly what I expected. Affirmative action and all of the other problems start and end with white liberals.


Reply 30 - Posted by: velox, 10/14/2012 11:28:30 AM     (No. 8932206)

To expect that every race would comprehend information at the exact same rate as others,is foolish.
The expectations quoted in the article are almost exactly what the book "The Bell Curve" explained twenty something years ago.
It is more difficult for the average black to learn to read than the average Asian.
Thems the facts folks. What that means Blacks may have to work a little harder the achieve the same level of skill as Asians, it does not mean they cannot learn to read at a competent level.
These are only averages. There are many blacks that are very high IQ and many whites and Asians that are really low IQ.
Affirmative action should be extra assistance in learning skills not simply giving Blacks jobs they are not qualified for.
I see nothing wrong with helping those that have more difficulty getting extra help learning skills required to be productive members of society


Reply 31 - Posted by: jeffreyabigail, 10/14/2012 11:32:45 AM     (No. 8932217)

The real issue here is that a black kid is infinitely more likely to be raised by a single mother who can barely read herself, does not own a single book, and has no idea where to find the nearest library. Until that dynamic is changed, it really doesn't matter what the schools do.

Yes, there are lousy public schools. But the Great Society ethos (if you're married you get nothing, but if you're a single mom you get welfare, food stamps, free housing and free daycare) is the real culprit.


Reply 32 - Posted by: FLCracker, 10/14/2012 11:54:38 AM     (No. 8932252)

#30, Define "Black."


Reply 33 - Posted by: jpdkas, 10/14/2012 11:58:34 AM     (No. 8932258)

Who wants to hire a black brain surgeon or cardiologist from Florida? How about a black nuclear plant operator? Any takers?

Actions like this will promote racism in new and different ways.


Reply 34 - Posted by: NuGoddess, 10/14/2012 12:01:48 PM     (No. 8932264)

Do they also get to tee-off from the girl's starting point?


Reply 35 - Posted by: mitzi, 10/14/2012 12:08:06 PM     (No. 8932271)

Sounds like Florida State Board of Education believes what Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray wrote in The Bell Curve," that some races might be intellectually superior to others.


Reply 36 - Posted by: conspicio, 10/14/2012 12:10:32 PM     (No. 8932274)

Why is everyone going nuts over this formalization of what has been the de facto liberal policy for decades?

Decades. Generations.


Reply 37 - Posted by: Caveman, 10/14/2012 12:27:22 PM     (No. 8932297)

#10 One drop of black blood entitles you to be black at any given moment, depending on the advantage/disadvantage available at that time.
One drop makes you a minority for life.

#29 I agree 110%.
Disingenuous white liberals are more of a danger to American society than all the Mulluhs and Obama combined.


Reply 38 - Posted by: Calico Al, 10/14/2012 12:31:14 PM     (No. 8932302)

Keep the dumb and they won't know they are on the plantation.


Reply 39 - Posted by: jeffblair, 10/14/2012 12:32:49 PM     (No. 8932304)

Why not regard each student as an INDIVIDUAL (rather than a member of a racial group)?

And shouldn't the GOAL be to have 100% (rather than 90% or whatever) of all the students achieving the set standard?


Reply 40 - Posted by: JonBoy54, 10/14/2012 1:07:42 PM     (No. 8932375)

Somewhere the shade of Margaret Sanger is smiling...


Reply 41 - Posted by: wlit22z, 10/14/2012 1:25:43 PM     (No. 8932416)

Just more Affirmative Action running amok and finally admitting that blacks are inferior to other races. We all knew that years ago but the liberal lefties didn't want to admit it.

I don't think they should be allowed to graduate with lower scores on tests and lower grades. They'll never make it in school or jobs if they don't come up to snuff with the rest of the students. If that is called racism, so be it. It's fact and it's true.


Reply 42 - Posted by: KTWO, 10/14/2012 1:28:15 PM     (No. 8932420)

Step away from the craziness of Race for a moment. These are not really wants or desires, they are targets. IOW the numbers the board thinks it may be possible to reach starting from now.

The only real number is 2018. Far enough in the future that no one will be responsible for anything soon. They like it that way.

The numbers don't represent some intent to keep 10% of Asians or 26% of blacks from reaching a standard. Or define groups as inferior v. superior.

Now back to Crazy. The plans are still a bad idea. We know it is only an educator's bureaucratic fantasy created by and for the benefit of themselves.

i.e. the same people who have created and ran the previous failed plans for decades.

Now it will go to federal court where the DoEd. teaching unions, civil rights groups, and judges will file, appeal, and shuffle papers for a year or two. Exactly the same way education - especially in southern states - has been run for fifty years. And with no better results.


Reply 43 - Posted by: mc squared, 10/14/2012 1:31:27 PM     (No. 8932429)

#16; will asians, blacks and whites with a 4.0 GPA all be equally capable?


Reply 44 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 10/14/2012 1:52:11 PM     (No. 8932480)

I guess we can surmise the graduation rate of people with degree`s in African Studies will necessarily increase.....


Reply 45 - Posted by: disasterman, 10/14/2012 3:27:50 PM     (No. 8932701)

#33 I work in a nuclear plant in Florida. Several of our best operators both in the control room and in the field are black, but the again there is zero affirmative action when it comes to an NRC exam.


Reply 46 - Posted by: mollybob, 10/14/2012 4:05:07 PM     (No. 8932808)

This entire matter rests on the "nature or nurture" question. I come down firmly on the "nurture" side of this one. There are large swaths of the African-American community with such a high level of dysfunction that their kids are lucky to come out alive, much less reading and writing. Until the bleeping race hustlers ge booted by their own for the shameless exploitation they've practiced just to get rich, and until courageous men of color speak the truth and advocate for their own lost generations, nothing will change.


Reply 47 - Posted by: bob913, 10/14/2012 5:04:28 PM     (No. 8932893)

Liberals/democrats do not believe people are people. They divide people into groups so they can pit one group against another.

Shows they are still racists as they lower the 'standards' to keep em dumb down so they vote democrat.


Reply 48 - Posted by: radrelic, 10/14/2012 5:28:30 PM     (No. 8932949)

How about black politicians. Should they be spotted a few points?

As if culturally we weren't enculturated to expect less and demand less? When is deference patronizing?


Reply 49 - Posted by: jerseyden, 10/14/2012 6:06:41 PM     (No. 8933007)

RE #6 Please don't to Colin powell in the same category as C.Rice. Rice earned everything she got. Powell has admitted he was an AA project.



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