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After Benghazi Attack, Private
Security Hovers as an Issue

New York Times, by James Risen

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Posted By:JoniTx, 10/13/2012 6:10:27 AM

WASHINGTON — Lost amid the election-year wrangling over the militants’ attack on the United States Mission in Benghazi, Libya, is a complex back story involving growing regional resentment against heavily armed American private security contractors, increased demands on State Department resources and mounting frustration among diplomats over ever-tighter protections that they say make it more difficult to do their jobs. The Benghazi attacks, in which the United States ambassador and three other Americans were killed, comes at the end of a 10-year period in which the State Department — sending its employees into a lengthening list of war zones

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: bob913, 10/13/2012 6:26:57 AM     (No. 8929719)

Looks like a cover story for obama.


Reply 2 - Posted by: varkdriver, 10/13/2012 6:50:59 AM     (No. 8929738)

I'm sorry, but in a hostile world, you need security. I'm willing to risk 'offending' a few people in order to keep our folks alive.

Of course, as a career DOD kind of guy, I realize the State Department looks at us (and other security types) like something they just scraped off the bottom of their shoe. They only want us around when they need a ride [i.e., a non-combatant evacuation from their embassy when things go to hell]. If you don't realize, or are unwilling to accept that there are people around the world who want to see you dead or humiliated [or preferably both], then you will put yourself and others in grave danger.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Trigger2, 10/13/2012 7:01:16 AM     (No. 8929750)

The State Department needs to be hosed out with the strongest disinfectant on the market.


Reply 4 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/13/2012 7:10:22 AM     (No. 8929760)

Will we hear about sensitivity training for private contractors next?


Reply 5 - Posted by: krause, 10/13/2012 7:15:41 AM     (No. 8929764)

They are way too many lefties ensconced in the DC bureaucracies. They have, and will continue to, work against any republican president. They need to be weeded out.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Rama41, 10/13/2012 7:38:52 AM     (No. 8929805)

Private security is no more an issue than a YouTube video. (I never could picture Libyan men sitting in their moms' basements scrolling through YouTube.) The real issue is this: Was there ever an Intelligence Finding that the YouTube video had anything whatsoever to do with the Benghazi Attack? If so, who came up with it? I'll bet the answer is no. It came from the fertile minds of Axelrod,et al.
If Obama ever tells the truth, it's this: "When the 3 o'clock phone call came, I was in Hollywood. I forwarded my calls to Hillary."


Reply 7 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 10/13/2012 7:59:11 AM     (No. 8929829)

The issue is not the video. (We still have free speech rights in the United States.) The issue is the continual lips-puckering-up by Zero, Bite-Me, and Hildebeast every time the word Islam is mentioned.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: asu86pe, 10/13/2012 8:06:23 AM     (No. 8929841)

Thank you #2 for your service.

A must read with good background about some issues that still seem unquestioned.

1) Who put/ordered our Ambassador in Benghazi in the first place?

2) Why, in such a volitile area, was the Ambassador surrounded by unarmed nationals? And where are these nationals now?

3) If this is about the weapons to AQ, why did the Ambasador need to be there?

4) What is the timeline of the Ambassador's travels to this area, vs., the requests to go there and the requests for more security?

Someone needs to apologize to the GREAT FAMILY of President Richard Millhouse Nixon for being a righteous patriot!

What sort of spy on spy op's are we dealing with?


Reply 9 - Posted by: planetgeo, 10/13/2012 8:08:40 AM     (No. 8929845)

I too am "against heavily armed American private security contractors". They should be replaced with heavily armed US Marines. Armed. Lethal. And ready, willing, and able to lay waste to any jihadist foolish enough to even think about attacking any of our embassies again.

I expect President Romney to think likewise.


Reply 10 - Posted by: JimS, 10/13/2012 8:10:12 AM     (No. 8929852)

So, because of "regional resentment against heavily armed American private security contractors" Obama & Clinton decide to:
1. Disarm the security by not issuing them any ammunition, as at Cairo
2. Hire the February 11 Martyr's Brigade (Not Kidding!) --a known terrorist front group with ties to AQ--as the security company.

This is beyond naive, beyond PC, beyond incompetent.
This is criminal.


Reply 11 - Posted by: jinx, 10/13/2012 8:20:52 AM     (No. 8929869)

Do you think Ms. Hillary would ever go anywhere without her armed guard? Would Ms. Valerie Jarrett even go on vacation without her Secret Service armed guard? When Amb. Stevens asked for more security, he should have gotten armed guards. Period!


Reply 12 - Posted by: LZK, 10/13/2012 8:25:51 AM     (No. 8929881)

I was wondering how long it would be before the attack on Benghazi would be President George W. Bush's fault... Note the "10 years" inclusion in the article....

What a load of cr@p!!

LZK


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: Keekng, 10/13/2012 8:36:40 AM     (No. 8929898)

Maher has a big mouth but he is not stupid. He will probably vote for Romney.


Reply 14 - Posted by: Keekng, 10/13/2012 8:39:31 AM     (No. 8929904)

Sorry about #13....wrong thread.


Reply 15 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 10/13/2012 8:45:28 AM     (No. 8929919)

This is what I said just yesterday. The administration thinks that adequate security ''looks mean'' to Islamic society. So in seeking to appease them, we leave our own people exposed to terror attacks and horrific deaths. At least Mohammed was not offended.


Reply 16 - Posted by: Grambo, 10/13/2012 8:46:31 AM     (No. 8929923)

In the middle of all this ME mess of American soldiers murdered by “friendly” Muslims, American diplomats murdered by “liberated Libyans”, American sovereign embassies and consulates torched by al Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood thugs murdering Christians, the US Secretary of State’s right hand aide is Huma Abedin, who’s family is at the heart of the Muslim Brotherhood, and the President wears a ring with the Arab inscription, “There is no God but Allah.”

What’s wrong with this picture?


Reply 17 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 10/13/2012 8:55:00 AM     (No. 8929940)

Pitiful artile. It's Bush's fault cause he used Blackwater...not one word about the testimony of Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, the former head of a 16-member U.S. military team in Libya, which probably shoulda been triple that size for Tripoli and ditto in Benghazi...not one word about the testimony re cables to DC stating the new govt was unable to fulfill normal security agreements with the US or any other govt.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: rabbit, 10/13/2012 8:55:26 AM     (No. 8929942)

Are Obama and his henchmen stupid enough to think he can get away with blaming it on the Dept. of State? The Dept. of State works for him! If he didn't know things, it was either because he didn't attend his security briefings or he didn't ask questions when reports went up the channel to him.

I guess when you attend school in Indonesia, you miss the lesson about Truman's Presidency, "The buck stops here."


Reply 19 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 10/13/2012 8:58:47 AM     (No. 8929948)

Sorry for second post, but even the 16 member team with superior power and training to the DS agents was pulled out...


Reply 20 - Posted by: Staunch Repub, 10/13/2012 9:15:31 AM     (No. 8929978)

Cost savings tip to NYT: Reduce work effort creating content of pretzel logic that bends around the facts and instead, focus on just reporting FACTS. (idiots)


Reply 21 - Posted by: Maybeth, 10/13/2012 9:20:56 AM     (No. 8929988)

Who can forget that the hired American security company, Blackwater, was accused of murder as they acted to protect Americans in Afghanistan and Iraq in 2010.
.... Seventeen Iraqis were killed with, gulp gulp, GUNS! Oh horrors!
s/o


I guess we can assume it's since then that 'security' people are not allowed to be armed in the MidEast.
.... Common sense dictates that embassies in such nations need to be discontinued. No armed American-approved security? No ambassadors. No good will.

I recently purchased a DVD starring Tommy Lee Jones and Samuel Jackson entitled 'The Rules of Engagement.' This is not the TV comedy show. Film was made in 2000. It's today.
.... I recommend it.


Reply 22 - Posted by: angelesgift, 10/13/2012 9:33:58 AM     (No. 8930023)

To me, it's all a matter of priorities. Is it more important to keep our people safe and our reputation intact, or play to the sensitivities of the locals?

If, as a nation, we make it clear our own people are our priority, the countries have to learn to deal with it. What kind of jerk government demands that our people be vulnerable? The diplomats and their staff can work on the "sensitivity" issue - that's kind of their job, right? It's just that it's so darn hard to be sensitive when you're dead.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: sapphire, 10/13/2012 10:01:21 AM     (No. 8930100)

Why did Stevens go to Benghazi on 9/11?


Reply 24 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/13/2012 10:20:14 AM     (No. 8930150)

They outsourced our Security to locals in a war zone

This is like hiring Otto Skorzeny to guard our ammo dumps


Reply 25 - Posted by: cgood, 10/13/2012 10:46:17 AM     (No. 8930228)

You can always depend upon the MSM to ignore a story until they find a useful angle. Yesterday I heard CBS radio news do a 'fact check' on a Biden claim during the debate. They used it to report that the lack of security at Benghazi was the result of Republican budget cuts.


Reply 26 - Posted by: JonR, 10/13/2012 11:00:08 AM     (No. 8930270)

The Stae Dept is a cesspool of communists and total fools that no longer represents the interests of the United States of America; let alone the Republic for which it stands! A complete reorganization is in order for this antiAmerican group!!


Reply 27 - Posted by: mseegal, 10/13/2012 11:22:19 AM     (No. 8930323)

Cybercast News Service had this story about security in Benghazi:

"In the months leading up to the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, the US Embassy in Libya was seeking to hire two bodyguards with 'limited' English language skills at salaries of about $13,000 per year. ... The job descriptions explicitly stated that this included the 'same-sex domestic partners' of US government employees."

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-embassy-libya-sought-13000-year-bodyguards-limited-english-gave-preference-citizen

Our State Department is more interested in Chevy Volts and $100,000 charging stations in European embassies and making sure same-sex domestic partners felt welcome than protecting our consulate. Somehow I don't think this liberal agenda impressed AQIM as much as armed Marines.


Reply 28 - Posted by: Butch59, 10/13/2012 12:17:10 PM     (No. 8930423)

Perhaps it's time that we, as a nation, re-evaluate just what our embassies are supposed do do. I mean, just what is the job of an ambassador? I know that they are supposed to represent our interests in the particular area they are posted to, but just how are they supposed to do that? Is it to run around and attend cocktail parties with local dignitaries or what? What does the job entail? I'm afraid that I personally don't really know. I know about the granting of visas and things of that nature, but just what do they do? And as far as security is concerned, the state department should make it very clear to the host that whenever there situations like that in Lybia, it is our RESPONSIBILITY to provide security to our people. And if they are "offended", so be it. We really don't have to have an embassy in their country, do we.


Reply 29 - Posted by: wlit22z, 10/13/2012 12:55:31 PM     (No. 8930491)

Let's face it. The State Dept. is run by a stupid broad with no experience who flies around looking like a witch in a pant suit.

Why do the Paris and Austrian embassies get security from the marines but not a volatile place like Libya? Someone dropped the ball and they are all in CYA mode.

Hope the intelligence community doesn't let HItlery get away with it. The truth needs to come out and the State Dept. needs a wholesale housecleaning of the leftists who "don't want to irritate the host country!"


Reply 30 - Posted by: Th-Gr-Sil-Majority, 10/13/2012 3:20:01 PM     (No. 8930714)

...how about a little focus on massive amounts of weapons supplied to Lybian rebels that are unaccounted for and the CIA agents working under different job titles who were attempting to discover their whereabouts...

...I'll admit that awarding contracts based on the lowest bid is an invitation to trouble, but THIS particular story may have much uglier complications for 0bama if the truth is exposed that OUR weapons where landing in the hands of Islamic jihadists...


Reply 31 - Posted by: Jebediah, 10/13/2012 9:04:11 PM     (No. 8931192)

And this is why a newspaper we subscribed to for 20 years is not even wrap for garbage for us anymore.


Reply 32 - Posted by: TruthandJustice, 10/13/2012 11:30:32 PM     (No. 8931428)

NYT's supported Hitler too..



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