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White House: Obama and Biden
were never aware of requests
for more Benghazi security

Foreign Policy, by Josh Rogin

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Posted By:abuela10, 10/12/2012 11:35:59 AM

Vice President Joseph Biden speaks only for himself and President Barack Obama, and neither man was aware that U.S. officials in Libya had asked the State Department for more security before the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, a top White House official told The Cable. Biden has come under fire for saying at Thursday night's debate, "We weren't told they wanted more security. We did not know they wanted more security there." The Cable asked Deputy National Security Advisor for Communications Ben Rhodes whether Biden was speaking for the entire Obama administration,

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: civilservant, 10/12/2012 11:37:55 AM     (No. 8928265)

Proof of the Uhhhbama's administrations disengagement and lack of leadership regarding ANYTHING not relating to the Wan's er-election.

If true(And I doubt it is) it is far far worse than lying about it.


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Reply 2 - Posted by: mitzi, 10/12/2012 11:38:12 AM     (No. 8928266)

So both the president and vice president have been totally out of touch with what's going on regarding the terrorist situation around the world?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: pgvoisin, 10/12/2012 11:38:32 AM     (No. 8928269)

Lies?
Incompetence?

Does it matter?

Romney/Ryan!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: mitzi, 10/12/2012 11:40:12 AM     (No. 8928277)

Is that because Obama didn't attend his daily briefings?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: devnull, 10/12/2012 11:42:04 AM     (No. 8928282)

Under the bus goes PIAPS.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Grady, 10/12/2012 11:46:05 AM     (No. 8928290)

I thought it was stated that Obama read a daily briefing
and that he is among the most sophisticated consumers of intelligence on the planet.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: MissMann, 10/12/2012 11:47:35 AM     (No. 8928300)

Really? This is their defense for the horrifying lack of security in Benghazi????

Another example of a lack of executive experience in either of these Jokers (and I can now use that term literally!). No executive would EVER trot out such a lame excuse.

Unfortunately, most Americans sense this and will be completely underwhelmed by this latest example of incompetence from the most powerful leaders of the free world.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: VinGoombatz, 10/12/2012 11:48:39 AM     (No. 8928305)

Biden=brilliant in international/defense affairs,
Zippy=just genius all around

= 4 dead in Benghazi

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Garage Logician, 10/12/2012 11:50:39 AM     (No. 8928310)

Hillary, care to comment?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: skedaddle, 10/12/2012 11:50:42 AM     (No. 8928311)

Is there anything that B0 is aware of?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Nimby, 10/12/2012 11:52:31 AM     (No. 8928314)

This is what happens when you skip the security briefings in the morning, MORONS!!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Garage Logician, 10/12/2012 11:54:44 AM     (No. 8928323)

#11, it's in a PDB folder under a stack of High Times magazines in Obama's Choom Room.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Pros7767, 10/12/2012 11:55:39 AM     (No. 8928326)

That's because they were too busy fundraising with the rich and famous or appearing on "The View".

This administration has got to go Nov. 6th.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: bmw50, 10/12/2012 11:55:54 AM     (No. 8928327)

OH, but that doesn't stop these two losers for spouting off things they know nothing about, does it???

Speak with enough authority and you can fool most of the people.


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Reply 15 - Posted by: fhancock, 10/12/2012 11:57:58 AM     (No. 8928331)

You are either a pack of liars or you are incompetent buffoons...either way you need to be fired...soon

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Leonardo, 10/12/2012 12:04:54 PM     (No. 8928350)

When you have a community organizer and a 1950's windbag politician leading the nation, Americans are in danger. Whoever thought that Obama could learn to lead the free world intone or 2 terms has enabled our ambassador's murder.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: killerbee, 10/12/2012 12:07:11 PM     (No. 8928359)

Maybe because they don't attend security briefings? Of course, I doubt it got out of the State Dept. in the first place. But, guess what, Obama (and media puppets) ... the State Dept. is part of YOUR administration. They represent your leadership.

Suck on that.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 10/12/2012 12:08:28 PM     (No. 8928363)

Precisely #4. When the CEO of a company is on vacation 11 months a year it`s kind of hard to know what`s going on below deck.

Obama/Biden declared war on America in 2009. They both expected a few casualties along the way, or as Barack states, `a few bumps in the road`.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Freeloader, 10/12/2012 12:12:48 PM     (No. 8928378)

It's a national tragedy neither of these "yardbirds" ever served in our nation's armed forces.

As any newly commissioned second lieutenant or ensign knows from their very first day..."A commander is responsible for everything his/her unit does or fails to do."

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Reply 20 - Posted by: alynnmcw, 10/12/2012 12:13:47 PM     (No. 8928380)

so then the defense for not doing your job is you weren't doing your job?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: paulfromTexas, 10/12/2012 12:17:36 PM     (No. 8928398)

Maybe the Obamians should shout their lies louder, because we do not believe them.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: mustang flyer, 10/12/2012 12:18:10 PM     (No. 8928399)

Is it surprising that the country is spinning out of control? The President and the Vice-President didn't know that an AMERICAN EMBASSY was asking for protection on Sept 11 Anniversary...who does Clinton, the Secretary of State work for? I thought it was for the President... he makes the policy...so Hillary should have been on the horn with him ASAP! Just like in Fast and Furious, Holder was not aware that HIS department was allowing weapons to be smuggled into ANOTHER COUNTRY and he was not aware what HIS department was doing...do these Obamacrats really think the American people are that stupid??? Other than the 47% that don't give a flip???

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Reply 23 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 10/12/2012 12:19:44 PM     (No. 8928402)

Several times Biden bragged about what he didn't know, he didn't get what Ryan was saying.

Ryan missed a HUGE opportunity to point that out, each time.

"I believe you didn't know, Joe, and now the ambassador is dead, so how do you feel about not knowing?"

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Knotwyrkin, 10/12/2012 12:23:34 PM     (No. 8928412)

I have never really accepted COMPLETE IGNORANCE as an excuse.


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Reply 25 - Posted by: Polecat49, 10/12/2012 12:24:43 PM     (No. 8928414)

This is about the lamest excuse I have ever heard. zero and biteme are president and vp, AND, they admit they don't give a damn what is going when 13th century thugs kill and maim Americans.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Hazymac, 10/12/2012 12:24:58 PM     (No. 8928416)

Liars, damned liars, and the Obama-Biden White House

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Reply 27 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 10/12/2012 12:25:24 PM     (No. 8928417)

Once again, the buck stops somewhere short of the Oval Office.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 10/12/2012 12:25:57 PM     (No. 8928419)

So, the Administration's defense against charges that they were negligent in the Libya situation is to claim that they are incompetent?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: The Architect, 10/12/2012 12:29:41 PM     (No. 8928425)

FTA - ""Our ambassador in Paris has a marine detachment guarding him, shouldn't we have a Marine detachment guarding our ambassador in Benghazi?," Ryan said."

"According to the U.S. Embassy Paris website, there is a Marine Security Guard Detachment in the embassy, but they are there primarily to protect classified information and are not part of the ambassador's personal security detail."

A distinction without a difference. I have been to the American Consulate in Paris. They damn sure do have Marine guards at the entrance gate and at the doors as well. If that is not security, I don't know what is.



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Reply 30 - Posted by: JoniTx, 10/12/2012 12:31:09 PM     (No. 8928430)

Does anyone know why the news networks, and C-Span, no longer carry the Jay Carney Press briefings?

I saw a brief clip on Fox News earlier, where he was completely flummoxed on the Benghazi security question. Would be great to see it happen live, as we did when President Bush was in office.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: oriton, 10/12/2012 12:31:17 PM     (No. 8928431)

Well, they should have been aware considering the previous attacks, and shame on them IF they weren't.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: mindyourbubble, 10/12/2012 12:33:23 PM     (No. 8928434)

So BHO and JB are gonna do the "We knew nothing polka". Did neither of them attend the briefings? If not where were they? Did anyone try to contact them with the needs?? Who tried? Something isn't rotten in Denmark but it stinks to high office in the WH.
So is Boehner going to have the fortitude to begin hearings on this? Any need for an impeachment??? Anybody...you better believe there is or at least some resignations. Even if it has to be done after the election and BHO wins.

The Al Kyda(?) guys are on the constant look out for a US out post without securety and will surely go after it and as in this case kill any and all associated with it.

May be this why BHO scooted off to Vegas to evade (in legal sense ) any thing to do with this White HOuse fiasco.

Issa go get em...

ABO November 6 2012

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Reply 33 - Posted by: wtm, 10/12/2012 12:33:49 PM     (No. 8928435)

#10,
Yes,
The golf course, Basketball, and Vacations !!

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Golden, 10/12/2012 12:34:04 PM     (No. 8928437)

This is what happens when you miss security briefings and go golfing instead.


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Reply 35 - Posted by: leftcoastmom, 10/12/2012 12:40:30 PM     (No. 8928455)

Bull

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Davids918, 10/12/2012 12:41:52 PM     (No. 8928459)

They just keep digging this hole, and showing they don't treat the job as serious.



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Reply 37 - Posted by: janjan, 10/12/2012 12:49:14 PM     (No. 8928479)

Biden was deliberately misleading. The embassy wasn't calling him. They were contacting the State Dept. and Biden knows it. These people truely make me sick.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: formerlyphelps, 10/12/2012 12:54:01 PM     (No. 8928493)

Had same reaction as #29 – to split these hairs any finer you would need some pretty complex nanotechnology.

Hint, Joe: The American people aren’t interested in your explanation as to why you are incompetent. Somehow 0-bama is sooooo savvy that he put the noose on Osama single-handedly, but doesn’t know when our embassies are being threatened by terrorists on the anniversary of 9/11? Then he compounds the problem by blaming a YouTube video for weeks, including in front of the world at the UN? We agree that you are stupid and incompetent, but how does that demonstrate you are better suited for the job?


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Reply 39 - Posted by: formerlyphelps, 10/12/2012 1:01:33 PM     (No. 8928511)

Sorry…
AND FURTHERMORE, if your defense is that there was a communication breakdown within the Executive Branch that led to the murder of 4 US citizens on US soil, what are you proposing to do about it?

We are done with your excuses. Now, 30+ days later, we’re still wondering what the response from the US will be - other than jailing the maker of a YouTube video and threatening free speech. Not interested in “We’ll make sure they are brought to justice!” Let’s see it.


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Reply 40 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 10/12/2012 1:02:45 PM     (No. 8928514)

This is disingenuous and childish. "Nobody told me" is no defense. The buck stops at the top - or used to, before Obama. Obama inaugurated the "It was broken when I picked it up" excuse, which is equally childish. The president is responsible for a foreign policy that consciously and deliberately downplayed security in Benghazi. This was not some oversight, some tragic mistake resulting from a memo that lost its way. State was simply trying to carry out the misguided policy of the administration. Rather than owning up to their wrong-headed policy, Obama et al. are shoving anybody and everybody under the bus to protect their own hides. It would serve the White House right if all the career Federal bureaucrats began copying them on all memos and decisions in every department of the U.S. government, just to protect themselves from the "Nobody told us" excuse in the future.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: John21, 10/12/2012 1:04:41 PM     (No. 8928522)

Which begs the question

Is this administration so out of touch with its own state department?

Or

How does the administration monitor the activities being done under their authority?

or

Is this administratiom so disconnected from the actions of its agencies that a fifedom environment has been created.

or

The total incompetence of this administration now on open display is the norm action?

I realize that the White House has not except responsibilty for any government action by any agency since before 2008.

That is the Chicago Way

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Reply 42 - Posted by: jinx, 10/12/2012 1:24:12 PM     (No. 8928572)

Hillary knew or should have known. She was trying to cover her own rear end and now she is going under the bus. It also shows why Obama should have been going to Intelligence meetings every day instead of lining up fundraisers, going to the gym every morning, listening to Valerie, and playing golf. He is lazy and not doing the job we are paying him to do. He's fired!

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Reply 43 - Posted by: CEP, 10/12/2012 1:28:20 PM     (No. 8928581)

Maybe they should have attended those intelligence meetings that they are having weekly, instead of playing golf?

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Grateful, 10/12/2012 1:50:36 PM     (No. 8928632)

Well, of course it depends on the definition of "told"

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Reply 45 - Posted by: JimS, 10/12/2012 1:56:52 PM     (No. 8928649)

I don't think Willard will take kindly to having PIAPS thrown under the bus by the same nitwit who called him a racist in 2008.
Should get interesting
Watch for more leaks from State.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: mackrand, 10/12/2012 2:00:30 PM     (No. 8928658)

#40, I did that once or twice at a major Aerospace firm. It is very effective but one doesn't want to do it all the time. I had a particularly sticky problem that was getting stonewalled by my management. I replied and copied the president. The next day the problem was fixed and there were numerable people asking why they didn't have a chance to fix the problem before I copied the president. I ignored them.

Sometimes you have to notify the top before you get results. In this case with Obama and Biden, they are telling the world that they didn't know the security status on one of the worlds flaming and boiling hotspots!

A severe breakdown that only the President is responsible for. Libya, Syria, and Iran are where the Third World War may start and Obama went golfing and putzing around in Las Vegas instead of keeping himself informed!

After four years he doesn't know how to do that and for that we have to let him go.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: wlit22z, 10/12/2012 2:02:40 PM     (No. 8928660)

If their mouths are open, they are lying.

I would not believe anything that the administration of the Mulatto Kid publicized or printed. They are habitual liars, don't take responsibility for not doing their jobs, and are just plain incompetent.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: The Architect, 10/12/2012 2:47:32 PM     (No. 8928768)

Either Zippy and Biden are outright lying to the American people, or they're completely incompetent failures at executive management. Either way, these are not individuals who should be granted four more years to do the same thing.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 10/13/2012 11:50:37 AM     (No. 8930371)

That story is not believable. There had been as many as 12 previous incursions. To me, the real story is why officials in the State Dept and the "Intelligence Community" are not speaking out against the President and VP's claims. What are they scared of ? Congratulations to the two men that did speak up. But they are not getting support from their own or other agencies; This Administration is a cesspool of corruption, fraud, harassment, lies, lack of transparency, and you can keep on going. This is arguable the most vile Administration in History kept under wraps by the MSM. One only need look at the VP's debate decorum to see
what has crawled into the leadership of the u>S>

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Reply 50 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/15/2012 10:41:58 AM     (No. 8934189)

Either way is bad for them.

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Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Barack Obama and the politics of lies
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Washington Examiner [DC], by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/20/2014 5:45:25 AM     Post Reply
That was quite a victory dance President Obama did Thursday while claiming Obamacare is “working” because eight million people have now supposedly signed up for the health care program. He even indulged in some less-than-subtle mockery of Republicans - and by extension the majority of Americans who have disapproved of Obamacare since before it became law. "The repeal debate is and should be over,” Obama said, taking a dig at Republicans who are “going through, you know, the stages of grief … anger and denial and all that stuff …” But a president who is viewed by most Americans as less


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