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Topic: Poll: Biden takes debate
over Ryan, uncommitted
voters say |
Poll: Biden takes debate
over Ryan, uncommitted
voters say
CBS News, by Staff*
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Original Article
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Posted By:BuckeyeRon, 10/12/2012 12:02:34 AM
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| Fifty percent of uncommitted voters who tuned into Thursday night's vice presidential debate in Danville, Ky., said they see Vice President Joe Biden as the winner over Mitt Romney's GOP running mate Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., according to an instant poll taken by CBS News. Of the 431 polled immediately following the debate, 31 percent deemed Ryan the winner, and 19 percent said they felt it was a tie. Party-wise it's a switch from last week's presidential debate, which uncommitted voters handed easily to Romney over President Obama. Both Biden and Ryan gained ground on relatability and knowledge.
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Comments:
Hogwash....
[Analysis by Sarah Dutton, Jennifer De Pinto, Anthony Salvanto, Fred Backus and Lindsey Boerma]
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Shells, 10/12/2012 12:08:10 AM (No. 8927271)
CBS staff wrote this... I'm guessing last Friday.
Thanks for playing, tools.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Bubbasuncle, 10/12/2012 12:11:28 AM (No. 8927278)
Funny CNN is calling it 48 for Ryan 44 for Bite Me.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Photoonist, 10/12/2012 12:11:28 AM (No. 8927279)
''This CBS News poll was conducted online using GfK's web-enabled KnowledgePanel?, a probability-based panel designed to be representative of the U.S. population'' - article. Like all programs, such as global warming: GIGO. If CBS can't get the right people to give them the poll results they want they simply will manufacture them.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
chance_232, 10/12/2012 12:14:46 AM (No. 8927288)
This is my opinion.
Biden didnt win any votes and I doubt that he moved the needle on the undecideds. I believe that this debate performance was a deliberate tactic to shore up the democrat BASE. The left is giddy. The right and independents are just disgusted.
I believe that this was all about lifting the moral of the base. That and Biden really is bat crap crazy.
I didnt personally dislike Biden until today. Today, I see Biden as a mean, petty jackass.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
tren9, 10/12/2012 12:17:01 AM (No. 8927294)
The CBS poll was of 'undecideds' which is defined by CBS as 'respondents who say they have not made up their minds or say that they might still change their minds.'
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
janylou, 10/12/2012 12:24:07 AM (No. 8927310)
It sure didn't influence any of Luntz's focus group.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
King of all trolls, 10/12/2012 12:25:05 AM (No. 8927313)
Ryan did not appear to me to be ready to be President.
Biden was boorish, condescending, arrogant. He was a characture of the beltway elitist, career politician. An arrogant, petty, and painfully ignorant man who demands that we continue to trust him.
worst of all was the borderline retarded chick moderator, who did a horrible job (affirmative action strikes again). there was no clarity to the contrasts, no substantive discussion to this debate. It was just another shouting match, leaping wontonly from false media narrative to false media narrative -- like what you can hear on any cable news network, anytime. I've never seen a more dreadful debate.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Janjan, 10/12/2012 12:28:33 AM (No. 8927329)
An 'instant poll' by CBS really means they polled each other. Hopelessly flailing around for a way to win back their credibility-obviously unaware that they lost it completely around mid-1992.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Constitutional, 10/12/2012 12:37:07 AM (No. 8927351)
CBS polls are taken around the newsroom watercooler and by phoning friends and immediate family. Pure garbage.
The story of the night is not what democrats thought, not what conservatives thought, it's what middlegrounders thought:
And I for one, no matter what ANY polls say, cannot believe that anyone watching (who did not already have a strong party affiliation) would think anything other than "That pushy grinning freak Biden looks like the Joker without his clown makeup on".
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
G-Tom, 10/12/2012 12:59:59 AM (No. 8927395)
Who believes ANYTHING SEE BS says?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Bla Bla, 10/12/2012 1:31:16 AM (No. 8927427)
Greta quoted an NBC poll that had Biden in the 30%s & Ryan at around 60%. Frank Lutz's roomful of ditzes even admitted Ryan was slightly more clear than Biden. They all complained no one explained anything to them. The problem is, while the Wonk gave exact numbers & plans, the Drama King talked over him & obfuscated every chance he got. They don't know who's lying, & couldn't keep up with the numbers. Research would do wonders for these people! Just realizing that Biden voted for the "war on a credit card" right along withRyan would do wonders for them.
What with laughing & interrupting constantly, he amazingly still had time to blame Romney & Ryan for everything bad that's ever happened during their administration. Off debate cameras, it's Bush half the time. His name-dropping of Netanyahu didn't get past me, either.
Bottom line: Biden looked rude, condescending & out of touch as he laughed at serious topics, and stuck in old-school mode when talking about troop deadlines & draw-downs. Ryan looked smart, respectful & determined with a plan in hand.
Do you want B&O or R&R people?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Charactercounts, 10/12/2012 3:30:30 AM (No. 8927494)
#11, I agree with your analysis.
It's terrifying to think that Obama and Biden are our current leaders, along with Reid. It doesn't get much scarier than that.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Muguy, 10/12/2012 4:06:52 AM (No. 8927510)
Circle the wagons!!
The hapless Bite Me needs our help!!
The smiling and rude VP can't decide if he is happy or sad--I guess that is what you get when Axlerod and company brain wash you for nearly a week.
Did he have too many energy drinks??
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
ROLFnader, 10/12/2012 7:37:59 AM (No. 8927683)
Here, let me fix that headline for ya , SeeBS="Biden Attempts To Take Over Debate".
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
mickturn, 10/12/2012 10:05:16 AM (No. 8928038)
Well I see SEEBS is up to their tired old bias.
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