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Obama’s Libya statements
become ludicrous

Washington Post, by Jennifer Rubin

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 10/10/2012 7:46:35 PM

Bring on the racks of “pants on fire” fact checks. Unload an army of Pinocchios to debunk the most egregious of the many untruths we’ve heard since the 9-11-2012 attack in Libya. In what is surely the most jaw-dropping of the many fudges, misrepresentations and outright lies by the Obama administration in handling the Libya attack that killed four Americans, we now hear from the State Department that it never linked the attack and death of four Americans in Libya to the anti-Muslim movie. I bet this comes as a bit of a surprise since you saw U.S. officials say just that for days.

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Did they really think the truth would never bubble to the surface?

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Frank G, 10/10/2012 8:12:25 PM     (No. 8924245)

The (demo)rats are jumping ship.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: lakerman1, 10/10/2012 8:29:07 PM     (No. 8924262)

One of the most surprising facts to come out today was that in Libya, as well as many other countries, our own security people are not allowed to carry guns, because that would violate the laws of the host country. (I believe Charlene Lamb, undersecretary of something or other, said that.)
So we have to hire citizens of the host countries to do the guarding. And I suppose that's adequate in England, or France, or Holland, but certainly not in a country full of filthy islamofascist terrorist pigs.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Northcross, 10/10/2012 8:33:54 PM     (No. 8924273)

Pretty tough stuff from WaPo. I wonder if anyone is listening.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/10/2012 8:34:48 PM     (No. 8924275)

I do not know HOW Americans can be so calm when it is plainly proven that this administration LIES to us.
My sympathy and apology goes out to the families of the 4 murdered Americans that was covered up to save the arses of worthless, useless people such as Hillary, Obama and Rice. They have blood on their hands, and it is dripping down their chins as they play a game of politics.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: trapper, 10/10/2012 8:45:53 PM     (No. 8924296)

Quoting the AP report in the article: "The State Department says it never concluded that an attack that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya was simply a protest gone awry..."


Quoting Danielle Pletka in the article: "And lying about the lie pushes the State Department into the realm of farce.”

But they are NOT lying about the lie. Remarkably, the State Department is finally telling us the TRUTH about the lie. You just have to keep the negatives and the double negatives straight. Their obfuscation lies in their leaving unsaid the second half of the confession.

Properly articulated, what State is saying goes like this: We NEVER concluded that the attack that killed Ambassador Stevens was a protest gone awry, and when we told you that we DID conclude that, we were lying to you.

The question then becomes: what was the lie intended to cover up? Security lapses aren't a big enough issue to justify all this. Cover for that would have been easily enough accomplished by sacrificeing some low level security people. No. This was bigger. Much bigger. Big enough for the President and the Sec State to lie to the American people, and stick with it for a week. It bought time.

I still say they knew about the demonstrations beforehand, were going to link them to American evangelicals via the Florida minister, and cap it with Obama's speech at the UN for some foreign policy bump before the debates. But alqueda's attack out of the blue messed it all up. Sure it's nutsy stuff, but look at their laughable reactions to Obama's debate fiasco. He thought he won. Look at the cockamamie campaign they are running. It's outrageous enough to be true.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: janylou, 10/10/2012 9:02:54 PM     (No. 8924335)

#2, I have a child who is an MP in Korea where they patrol the streets and aren't allowed to carry fire arms because of that incident back in January. That too can be laid at Shrill's doorstep.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: veritas, 10/10/2012 9:02:58 PM     (No. 8924336)

We're being w-a-a-a-y-y too hard on 'em.

In places like that, how can anyone tell a apart a riot, a wedding, a grand opening sale at Achmed's, a revolution, a counter-revolution, Friday prayers, a terrorist attack, or the shutting-down of a girl's school?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: usingthebean, 10/10/2012 9:19:42 PM     (No. 8924355)

Couldn't agree more #5. There is explained agenda that has not surfaced as of yet. Haul the UN shill Rice in front of Rep. Gowdy and turn him loose. Then insist Issa depose Madame Sec.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: janylou, 10/10/2012 9:30:43 PM     (No. 8924371)

Do anyone else notice that as serious a matter as this is that only about half of the dims showed up at the hearings today?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 10/10/2012 9:33:15 PM     (No. 8924375)

The fleas of a thousand camels have begun to infest Obaba's armpits in the form of media attacks, and from the erstwhile friendly media sources usually attached to Obama's backside, at that.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: rocket scientist, 10/10/2012 10:16:00 PM     (No. 8924453)

I remember saying when the "video explanation" for the attack on our embassy in Libya first came out it would be looked back upon in the same way we look back on the "Koran being flushed down the toilet in Gitmo" story - as phony as a three dollar bill. We all know that both Hillary and Øbama are shameless phonies and liars so the phony storyline they came up with was as predictable as rain.
Now I know what Rush means when he says he knows these people better than they know themselves. These people are self-deluded and so predictable. Øbama has become a caricature of himself as pResident, the same way Keith Olbermann became a caricature of himself as a newsman on MSNBC. Both Øbama and Keith are infantile. Keith was fired from his job. Let's do the same for Øbama this November.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: JimS, 10/11/2012 7:18:57 AM     (No. 8924929)

Missing in all the Libya lies and noise is the question:

WHAT were Amb Stevens and retired SEALS (now private contractors to US) doing in Benghazi?

I believe the answer was that they were trying to negotiate for the return of the arms that Obama gave the Libyan rebels during the overthrow of Khadaffi. These arms are now in A-Q and other terrorists' hands.

Barry's Libyan Fast & Furious Caper.
Further, I strongly suspect that the weapons used to kill the 4 Americans were made in the USA.

Find proof of that, and then get out the pitchforks and tar and feathers for Choom Boy.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Trigger2, 10/11/2012 7:28:11 AM     (No. 8924949)

I watched and listened to the Hildebeast being adamant the the Libyan fiasco was strictly on account of the video.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: planetgeo, 10/11/2012 7:36:40 AM     (No. 8924962)

OP, yes, they really did think they could keep the truth from bubbling to the surface because they control the bubble machine (MSM).

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Reply 15 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 10/11/2012 7:51:05 AM     (No. 8925006)

I am so grateful for Rep. Darrell Issa, R-California for bringing things out of the darkness into the light. He takes seriously the responsibility of oversight of the executive branch and the balancing of powers.
Too many of our politicians only concern themselves with retaining their power and influence by winning their next election. Issa is actually applying his power and influence on behalf of the people who elected him. I also send a big thank you to his district in California for sending a man such as this at this critical time in history.
#7 thanks for making me laugh this morning while reading about such a serious topic.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: coldoc, 10/11/2012 7:52:29 AM     (No. 8925011)

I think we're gonna' need a bigger jail.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/11/2012 7:52:41 AM     (No. 8925013)

I liked Rep. Gowdy's parsing of the phrase "in fact" -- used to blithely by "Dr." Rice. Said he didn't know what it meant in diplomatic circles, but in the law, "in fact" means it is a fact, and it's not subject to equivocation.

She is another Affirmative Action charlatan, in way over her head.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Grambo, 10/11/2012 8:10:54 AM     (No. 8925056)

The Democrats claimed that it was OK for a President to lie to the country about sex because everyone lies about sex. But everyone does not lie about Americans being murdered by our enemies. No, this time there is no excuse.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: LZK, 10/11/2012 8:14:45 AM     (No. 8925066)

Yeah -- yeah -- yeah -- so what's new????

obama is a liar and everyone knows it....

LZK

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Reply 20 - Posted by: JAN, 10/11/2012 8:23:41 AM     (No. 8925084)

According to Debbie Blabbermouth, it's fake but accurate.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: beat the press, 10/11/2012 8:23:50 AM     (No. 8925085)

Obama/Jarret's Achilles heel is that they thought they could superimpose the Chicago way on the national stage. In Chicago there is NO opposition anywhere to check the corruption and the criminal activity embedded in the local government. President Kardashian is just naive, stupid, and arrogant enough to believe he could co-op the entire federal bureaucracy to lie down and bend to his will because, you know, he's the "One".

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Arby, 10/11/2012 8:31:26 AM     (No. 8925108)

Playing fast and furious with the truth is nothing new to this administration, but this time it's so crystal clear that perhaps even the sheeple will sit up and take notice.

Kudos to Bret: keep that timeline a 'comin.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: jmsdpm, 10/11/2012 8:57:06 AM     (No. 8925188)

I think everybody should keep their eyes on Turkey and Syria as Amb. Stevens met with the Turkish Amb. In Benghazi the morning of 9/11/12. Maybe a proxy war between the US and Russia? Just wondering.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: LadyVet, 10/11/2012 9:12:35 AM     (No. 8925220)

#24 has an interesting post.

Someone else also suggested that the video story was concocted to use during a handy crisis to justify the new rules/ Executive order on controlling the internet.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Maybeth, 10/11/2012 9:15:54 AM     (No. 8925226)

Near the end of this article, Leon Panetta publicly scolds Hillary Clinton, although he only refers to 'the State Department.' The Clintons will not appreciate his questions.
.... Wonder what he is doing here. Covering his own butt?
Most likely.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Judith, 10/11/2012 9:21:05 AM     (No. 8925239)

So, what are the "news" people saying? That the testimony by two of the witnesses, was just bad? Or they were too nice? Or that the other two (the two who actually were in Libya and knew about the security situation)were lying? Which old canard will zero trot out?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: SnowQueen, 10/11/2012 9:32:03 AM     (No. 8925265)

Maybe it was the altitude.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/11/2012 9:32:19 AM     (No. 8925268)

There is a method to his madness. Yes it is madness. Obama has been showing more of his Muslim side lately. His speech to the United Nations was a clear indication of his thinking. "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Pretty clear to me.

He then took the picture of the Christian YouTube video producer, in chains and under guard, and waved it at the Muslim world in solidarity. He also had a bloated Hillary appear on Arabic TV to make a groveling apology to the Muslim masses.

This may get interesting. Americans are no longer lions in their eyes. We're in retreat and our dhimmitude is becoming apparent.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 10/11/2012 10:03:08 AM     (No. 8925353)

I for one will be very happy with Hillary out of that position. Never had confidence in the so called smartest woman in the world, Visually, she looks fat, dumpy, depressed, speaks like a robot winding down, and gives the impression of poor hygiene.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: DSchneider, 10/11/2012 10:31:50 AM     (No. 8925474)

Time to bring up Fast & Furious again. There won't be a sympathetic press this time.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/11/2012 10:46:04 AM     (No. 8925522)

Doesn't matter.

Ya'll keep missing the point.

Google YOUTUBE - then - "Caught on Tape! I was Paid To Vote For Obama"

That specific title.


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Reply 32 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 10/11/2012 11:41:50 AM     (No. 8925725)

This is a mutiny by part of the career bureaucracy. Political concerns trumped security concerns and one of their own- a career diplomat- got assassinated as a result. A Big Lie was then told to protect Obama's claims about Al Qaeda being a spent force. A lot of the career types at State and across the rest of the intelligence community are now refusing to go along with that lie for both professional and personal reasons. Like would you be willing to ever accept foreign assignment again with these fools supposedly covering your back?

As was noted above. Washington DC isn't Chicago where Democrat hacks rule in perpetuity. There is only so much blame the politicians can lay on the bureaucracy.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: jackie, 10/11/2012 11:47:14 AM     (No. 8925742)

I was surprised by Dennis Kucinich when he was questioning. Dems were not treated kindly. I am worried about the missiles to take down aircraft that are in that country...
The blackman in the WH is toast. I keep calling him the blackman because I have been reminded he is by the libs. Don't want to slight him

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Reply 34 - Posted by: peterfleming, 10/11/2012 12:11:35 PM     (No. 8925811)

It makes it a lot easier just to think of all these destructive Beltway rats as communists. End of story.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Marzon, 10/11/2012 12:55:44 PM     (No. 8925909)

Ok, Tin foil hat time...

I have been wondering if the original plan was hatched with the cooperation of the leaders of the Libyan faction Zippy wants to control the country. The plan being to allow an attack on the consulate which was supposed to result in the capture of the ambassador and his aides. Then Zippy would act all macho and do something dramatic in cooperation with said Libyan leaders to gain the release of the hostages. Presto! Obama gets a big foriegn policy success just in time for the election and the Libyan faction he favors demonstrate they are in control and gain power, prestige, and probably aid money. The press would run with stories of the Obama's strong and brilliant foriegn policy skills all the way to the election. But the plan fell apart when A.Q. infiltrated the attackers and either deliberatly killed our guys or the off duty seals who weren't part of the script made it into a real fight that ended in with their deaths. As usual, Zippy had a scapegoat ready in the form of the film, which had been around for months. This would explain why Zippy wasn't even remotely concerned when first informed of the attack and why they went straight to the film excuse when things went bad. Ambassador Stevens was just a pawn.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 10/11/2012 2:20:08 PM     (No. 8926120)

Marzon....your theory does answer several pesky details.

At the hearings yesterday they argued the merits of six or twelve or eighteen security agents at the outpost but they never really addressed the question of how there came to be ZERO....except for the unexpected Seals.

The thick plottens !

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Reply 37 - Posted by: DebiAnn, 10/11/2012 4:43:10 PM     (No. 8926538)

I'd like to know what happened to the diary? That went away very quickly. It was my understanding that he mailed it to his family and told them to turn it over to the media if he didn't survive 9/11. Too bad they didn't give it to FOX instead of CNN.

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