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U.S. Election 2012: Joe Biden
to play ‘hardball’ against
Paul Ryan in VP debate

Associated Press, by Matthew Daly

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Posted By:Photoonist, 10/10/2012 2:56:31 PM

Washington - Four years ago, Joe Biden was careful not to appear overly aggressive in his vice presidential debate with Sarah Palin, then a newcomer to the national stage. Now, as he prepares to debate Paul Ryan, a 14-year House veteran and the top Republican budget writer, Biden is less concerned about looking like a bully. “He won’t have to worry about pulling punches,” said former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, who played Palin in debate preparations in 2008 but is not involved this year. “He can go after policy and raise issues with a number of deliberate deceptions that the

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He's going to try. And LIE. But he and 0bama already did this and failed miserably during White House - Congressional meetings. Maybe Biden will resort to a little reminiscing and weeping if he gets a sign that he is losing badly. He's been known to do that too.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: mitzi, 10/10/2012 3:01:31 PM     (No. 8923542)

He can play all the hardball he wants. But - he throws like a girl!!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: GOPinTN, 10/10/2012 3:04:57 PM     (No. 8923552)

If they bring a hardball,
you bring a bat.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 10/10/2012 3:05:38 PM     (No. 8923554)

The DemocRAT approach:

Lie. Twist. Answer a question that wasn't asked. Feign outrage. Interrupt - repeatedly. Put words in the opponent's mouth. Lie. Repeat the lie. Interrupt.

Sound familiar?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: reilly, 10/10/2012 3:05:46 PM     (No. 8923556)


You mean the guy with the $1 trillion tax increase that "buried" the middle class the last four years?


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Reply 5 - Posted by: taytay52, 10/10/2012 3:08:03 PM     (No. 8923558)



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Reply 6 - Posted by: taytay52, 10/10/2012 3:08:37 PM     (No. 8923560)

I'm sure he will try to play hardball, but he will have to extract his own foot from his mouth to do so!

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Reply 7 - Posted by: MindMadeUp, 10/10/2012 3:08:37 PM     (No. 8923559)

Well, duh. That's like saying a cornered rat will try hard to bite you.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: bifgroovey, 10/10/2012 3:09:16 PM     (No. 8923563)

"The number-one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S, jobs." --Joe Biden



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Reply 9 - Posted by: tobias, 10/10/2012 3:09:57 PM     (No. 8923567)

You mean they are going to send Urkels senile uncle in to fix things? Be afraid Paul, be very afraid

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Reply 10 - Posted by: ronnietheK, 10/10/2012 3:10:30 PM     (No. 8923568)

Make my day!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Nimby, 10/10/2012 3:11:32 PM     (No. 8923570)

The 3-letter word- BALL

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Stlouislaxbros dad, 10/10/2012 3:12:51 PM     (No. 8923576)

Make Biden discuss the tiny tiny percentage of his money that he gives to charities.

He is one of the cheapest men alive with his own money...but he wants to use yours to do his idea of good things.



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Reply 13 - Posted by: doublesharp, 10/10/2012 3:14:40 PM     (No. 8923578)

Stand up Chuck.....

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Reply 14 - Posted by: rubberneck, 10/10/2012 3:16:17 PM     (No. 8923583)

Sounds like this debate is going to be a big effin' deal, huh? (Quoting Joe the Statesman)

He should be less concerned about looking like a bully, and more concerned about looking like a fruitcake. (Jay Leno said the GOP has enlisted Gary Busey to play the role of Biden, as Ryan prepares.)

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Reply 15 - Posted by: bifgroovey, 10/10/2012 3:16:18 PM     (No. 8923584)

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
–Joe Biden, referring to Barack Obama at the beginning of the 2008 Democratic primary campaign, Jan. 31, 2007

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Reply 16 - Posted by: mitzi, 10/10/2012 3:18:33 PM     (No. 8923588)

Can you just imagine the condition Joe is going to be in after being locked up with his debate coaches for six days?

The guy's going to be slap-happy

1. Dazed, silly, or incoherent from or as if from blows to the head; punch-drunk.


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Reply 17 - Posted by: bpl40, 10/10/2012 3:19:24 PM     (No. 8923591)

Jokes apart, there is serious indications that Joe Plugs might be suffering from the beginnings of senility - well may be it HAS advanced beyond that. Just like the Denver confrontation, we are unnecessarily concerned. Ryan will eat him alive.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: hammondb3, 10/10/2012 3:33:38 PM     (No. 8923619)

I still think they could have taken a chunk out of the deficit if they had made this a PPV event.

Shoot, make it a tag-team. Biden/Maher vs. Ryan/Miller. 14.95



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Reply 19 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/10/2012 3:37:16 PM     (No. 8923633)

Seriously, what was the nature of his brain ailment several years ago?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 10/10/2012 3:51:03 PM     (No. 8923676)

Joe's brain ailment impaired the part of his brain pertaining to socialization His debate handlers are hoping to imprint those lost skills over the part of his brain that lusts after Ukrainian women.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/07/21/biden-talks-about-ukraines-churches-and-beautiful-women/

Other than that, the debate prep doesn't go much beyond relearning the names and capitals of the 57 states and maybe the last few countries he has had to visit.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: troutgreen, 10/10/2012 3:58:50 PM     (No. 8923692)

1st Rule of Hardball : Don't pitch if you can't catch.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: varjo, 10/10/2012 4:03:22 PM     (No. 8923699)

It took 6 days to prep Biden because he wasn't sure what previous debate speeches he was going to plagarize.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: save America, 10/10/2012 4:05:41 PM     (No. 8923703)

Granholm said Joe can raise issues with "deliberate deceptions ".This is the problem.We have had enough deliberate deceptions from this White House.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Blue Hen1, 10/10/2012 4:14:42 PM     (No. 8923725)

How come the image i have of Biden is the one with the ice cream cone to the middle of the forehead

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Reply 25 - Posted by: mickturn, 10/10/2012 4:21:19 PM     (No. 8923742)

So this means that good ole Joe will create at lest 50 GAFFE's in the debate for Ryan to jump all over?

I count on Joe to come across as a condesending bully and Ryan to shove it down his throat!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: TexasHillCountry, 10/10/2012 4:56:43 PM     (No. 8923840)

Joe reminds me of the very old men I have seen whose wives have died leaving them alone. Lots of spots missed while shaving---if they even bother. Sorely in need of a haircut. Dried egg yolk on their shirts. Collar points unbuttoned. Food stains in their laps. Shoes unpolished and run down at the heels. They do speak, but their hearts are no longer in making it through this world so they end up talking about stuff only they understand. Those men are worthy of our compassion and attention.

VaPid Joe has intentionally remained well past his "good thru" date and deserves only our ridicule and contempt.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/10/2012 5:00:25 PM     (No. 8923851)

He'll be mean alright, he has been "drying out" for a week now.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: zbogwan2, 10/10/2012 5:15:49 PM     (No. 8923891)

Ryan should make the debate about the Obama Administrations failed record. Romney already answered Obama at least 3 times on where he stood on taxes. Ryan doesn't have to repeat what Romney more than clarified in his debate with Obama.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Former lurker, 10/10/2012 5:22:21 PM     (No. 8923907)

Joe Biden is a very nasty man........and sneaky. His favorite technique is to dishonestly humiliate someone in a public setting where they can't respond properly (Senate confirmation hearings) and then go up to his victim afterwards with "no hard feelings" and his s**t eating grin. Don't turn your back on him Paul"

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Reply 30 - Posted by: bumbleshorts, 10/10/2012 6:53:37 PM     (No. 8924088)

Not sure joe has the required equiptment for the job.

Seriously, debating joe is just cruel. It's like making fun of people with disabilities, and I'm not sure but I think it's illegal.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: mitzi, 10/10/2012 6:58:15 PM     (No. 8924092)

Sheriff Joe was in charge of watching where the stimulus money went, I'd love to hear a report on the success (?) of the stimulus and those shovel ready projects that were funded.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 10/10/2012 7:01:59 PM     (No. 8924104)

If Ryan's worried about Joe's style of meanness couched in phony politeness, he could neutralize it by speaking to Plugs the way one speaks to an elderly dementia patient. That way he'll play up Plugs' tendency to make gaffes without seeming "mean". A nice touch would be offering Plugs help to find his way home after the debate.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: uno, 10/10/2012 7:12:10 PM     (No. 8924123)

Hardball or fungo practice - you be the judge.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: jfirebrand, 10/10/2012 7:51:33 PM     (No. 8924213)

Remember that Joe has been used as a hit-man in Senate confirmation hearings for decades. He will say or do anything. Luckily, Ryan knows what he knows so well, and explains it so well, he will charm the audience as he guts Joe like a fish.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Stopstoreload, 10/10/2012 9:02:21 PM     (No. 8924333)

It is a little known fact that Biden invented a soft drink and named it Six-Up.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 10/11/2012 10:34:06 AM     (No. 8925482)

Its been evident for a long time that Mr Ryan is one of the most intelligent individuals that have even been in Congress. He has more knowledge in his little finger than Mr Biden has in his whole body. Good-ole-Joe isn't with the boys for a night out. He is in a debate with a man with the facts.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: broken01, 10/11/2012 11:59:02 AM     (No. 8925778)

All I have to say is remember when Sarah Palin made BFD Biden look like a complete fool on TV during their debate back in 08. With Ryan it is going to be 100 times worst. Mr Ryan will have a very big bat for Crazy Joe's hardball.

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