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Obama 'believed he had BEATEN
Romney' in Denver debate - after
ignoring advice of top aides on
preparation

Daily Mail [UK], by Toby Harnden

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Posted By:Hooverdog, 10/9/2012 3:38:30 PM

When President Barack Obama stepped off the stage in Denver last week the 60 million Americans watching the debate against Mitt Romney already knew it had been a disaster for him. But what nobody knew, until now, was that Obama believed he had actually won. In an extraordinary insight into the events leading up to the 90 minute showdown which changed the face of the election, a Democrat close to the Obama campaign today reveals that the President also did not take his debate preparation seriously,

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 10/9/2012 3:45:28 PM     (No. 8921152)

That sounds like the Obama I have come to know.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: pensom2, 10/9/2012 3:49:47 PM     (No. 8921162)

When reading this sort of article, I always wonder what kind of Obama employee/loyalist makes a statement like that to any news reporter. It's extremely damaging to Obama to leak this kind of story, even if it's no surprise to most of us.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 10/9/2012 3:52:12 PM     (No. 8921167)

#2 - someone who wants to be perceived as "in the know" by reporters and doesn't care about the consequences of spilling inside information.

Just like the one who spilled all the info about the OBL raid.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ohioTom, 10/9/2012 3:52:37 PM     (No. 8921168)

Why would anyone expect him to take the debate seriously? He takes nothing else that the US people consider important to be serious. Such a narcissist.

My guess is he's never had any pushback in his life.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Udanja99, 10/9/2012 3:56:05 PM     (No. 8921176)

Arrogance will come back and bite you on the butt every time. Zippy better get some antibiotics for that wound on his backside. Oh, the schadenfreude!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Nimby, 10/9/2012 3:56:26 PM     (No. 8921177)

1. I don't believe this garbage some "top aide" is spewing. No one worth their salt would be saying such things.

2. Sununu was correct when he said that Obummer is LAZY

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Ruhn, 10/9/2012 3:57:08 PM     (No. 8921181)

So, on a whim, Barry decides to visit Hoover dam in lieu of debate prep. Results?

Emblematic of a man who has skated all through his academic and political life. The hubris of this empty suit is astonishing. He actually believed he won the debate?? It's only a matter of time before reality catches up with him.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Nimby, 10/9/2012 3:57:40 PM     (No. 8921182)

#4. Why would he have a push back? He is the product of affirmative action.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: rburns, 10/9/2012 3:57:54 PM     (No. 8921184)

Proof positive that he is even dumber then I thought. "The smartest man to ever walk the face of the earth"...................my behind!! hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Photoonist, 10/9/2012 3:58:52 PM     (No. 8921186)

Pothead 0bama concentrate for debate prep? I don't think that is possible. And IMO he STILL believes that he won. He also believes that all of us who think he lost are stupid and delusional so is playing along with campaign advice but believes he won nonetheless.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 10/9/2012 3:59:46 PM     (No. 8921188)

He believes a LOT of things; most of them are also wrong.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/9/2012 4:04:15 PM     (No. 8921202)

Poor judgement on full view for all Obama voters.
Obama is simply incapable.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 10/9/2012 4:04:56 PM     (No. 8921207)

Wow, man - what a drag.

/contempt off/

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Robinsolana, 10/9/2012 4:04:58 PM     (No. 8921208)

How is this like the Choom Wagon?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: NRA_Forever, 10/9/2012 4:06:51 PM     (No. 8921212)

Zero is a delusional malignant Narcissist. What else was he to believe?

His parents weren't legally married so he's not even a legitimate birth.

There's a word for folks like him. Bast_rd.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: jl80863, 10/9/2012 4:21:26 PM     (No. 8921239)

Choom does not constitute debate preparation, particulary when one is ignorant, incompetent and lazy.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Italiano, 10/9/2012 4:21:29 PM     (No. 8921240)

There are still a few adults left in the Democrat Party, or so I've heard. They are no doubt as sick of Obama as the rest of America.

Landslide.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 10/9/2012 4:25:26 PM     (No. 8921248)

Whoever shopped Obama on this one is suffering from "Look what I've done for you and this is how you repay me?" syndrome. It's usually closely followed by "Watch this!"

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Dante, 10/9/2012 4:33:13 PM     (No. 8921262)

Not a bright man, but rather a childish narcissist who has been told his entire life that whatever feeble effort he makes is brilliant.



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Reply 20 - Posted by: ocjim, 10/9/2012 4:36:34 PM     (No. 8921268)

''Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad [with pride]''.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: GhostofChesterton, 10/9/2012 4:41:21 PM     (No. 8921274)

Obama cannot win any of these debates. He does not have the capacity to retain information and pull it from his memory when he needs it. Telepromptering has caused his faculties to deteriorate. He is like most affirmative action hires. Everyone's excited to have him on board at first, then they realize he has been hired for the wrong reasons.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Kurto, 10/9/2012 4:42:51 PM     (No. 8921278)

What if he went to Hoover dam to prove he could walk on water? Everyone would see a drowning, and after resuscitation 0 would say, "I told you all I could do it."

DUH!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: turnerr, 10/9/2012 4:44:38 PM     (No. 8921281)

From the article it sounds like Obama didn't know that the Hoover Dam was near Las Vegas.

Smartest man ever, or Joe Biden's mental equal?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: MindMadeUp, 10/9/2012 4:45:02 PM     (No. 8921282)

Leftists, like Obama, live in a dream world where feelings trump facts. He feels nothing but contempt for Romney, as his face revealed during the debate. In his arrogance, he assumed everyone else shares that contempt. I would have loved to watch his puzzlement as his aids struggled to break the news to him. Notice that his first reaction was that Romney cheated in some way, "That wasn't the real Romney!" I'll bet he still believes he bested Romney, but everyone else is too stupid to see that.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: tatterdemalion, 10/9/2012 4:55:29 PM     (No. 8921305)

This article explains a lot. Obama was probably singing, "I am the Champion." in his head during the debate.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: bpl40, 10/9/2012 4:57:48 PM     (No. 8921309)

The really amusing thing here is the reason why Zippy thought he had won. Apprently his view was that his idea about the future direction of the country was superior to Romney. Liberals (thank god) never learn!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: nonsense, 10/9/2012 5:14:19 PM     (No. 8921326)

He probably believes that he already won debates #2 and #3 while wearing a Big Bird suit. Too funny... and very scary for our country.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 10/9/2012 5:16:41 PM     (No. 8921329)

Article doesn't allude to a top aide as the source but a top Democrat close to the campaign...sounds to me like someone on Kerry's team or someone responsible for debate prep and handling Kerry and Obama during it is the sourcel....CYA or push-back from attempts to throw Kerry under the bus...

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Reply 29 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 10/9/2012 5:16:56 PM     (No. 8921330)

I'll bet he's a real treat to work for...

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 10/9/2012 5:25:03 PM     (No. 8921341)

Narcissism combined with great ability can work, but narcissism and mediocrity do not go well together. The same goes for laziness. A person who is brilliant but lazy often accomplishes remarkable things - but someone who is mediocre and lazy will flop unless they are lucky or have a lot of outside help.

Obama is unlikely to have room in his head, swollen and empty though it is, for the idea that he is a person of very modest abilities. He is clearly somewhat above average in intelligence, but he is nowhere near as bright as he has been led to believe. He is certainly not smart enough to coast through a debate with someone like Mitt Romney. It is telling that his self-evaluation of his performance was that he had won the debate. He probably still believes that even though he says otherwise.

What now? Can he improve? He is still a narcissist; he is still lazy; and he is still a man of modest abilities, much too modest for the position he was given by infatuated voters who took him at his own self-estimate.

The only thing Obama has ever clearly done well is deliver prepared speeches to friendly audiences. He is a combination of a Toastmaster, a preacher, and a TV host. But it is all talk, all style, and no real substance. His political ideas are trite and stale, warmed over campus radicalism. There is no reason to suppose any amount of debate preparation can alter these things.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: DSchneider, 10/9/2012 5:28:04 PM     (No. 8921345)

Obama seems to believe in a lot of things that don't make sense in the real world. If I were Romney, I might just ask the question "Is this how he operates with foreign leaders?" Because if it is, we have already become a third world party at the top.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: seal010101, 10/9/2012 5:36:24 PM     (No. 8921350)

Der Führer schläft noch immer.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: formerlyphelps, 10/9/2012 5:36:58 PM     (No. 8921353)

“So Mr. President, how would you grade yourself on your first debate?”

“Personally, I would give myself an A- in that debate, because I admit I didn’t give a perfect performance this time. I figured anyone with a decent IQ could see thru Gov. Romney’s lies, so I didn’t waste my time embarrassing him. Not that I couldn’t have, it would have been easy. The retorts were right on the tip of my tongue, and while you probably thought I was struggling with some of my answers, I was really just trying to exercise great leadership by not descending to his level. I think people will realize this given some time. You have to get past the words in the debate and the ridiculous polls in order to truly grasp what a big loss that was for my opponent.”


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Reply 34 - Posted by: Mai Bad, 10/9/2012 5:44:41 PM     (No. 8921366)

Yo..yo...BAAAHAAAHAAA...BO, aka "stinky", been smokin weed again

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Reality, 10/9/2012 5:52:33 PM     (No. 8921386)

If he is that ignorant and delusional to think that he won that debate, he does not have the intelligence to be a dog catcher, much less the President of the United States.
Lets all get together and retire him now.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: woodsman, 10/9/2012 5:56:00 PM     (No. 8921389)

Leroy XVI and Michelle Antoinette...Debates are for little people

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Newtsche, 10/9/2012 5:57:07 PM     (No. 8921393)

This may be floated to imply there is room for discussion as to the debate's outcome. If you're sure Romney won, you lack the depth and nuance of unstupid, elite lefties. Textbook dissembly.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: oriton, 10/9/2012 6:13:12 PM     (No. 8921427)

Poster 35, he does not have the intelligence to be a dog catcher.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Flipper3, 10/9/2012 6:17:46 PM     (No. 8921433)

Just goes to show how damned stupid Obama is.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Udanja99, 10/9/2012 6:20:08 PM     (No. 8921437)

Now maybe zippy's debate prep team will work him so hard that his head will explode. He'll be so weewee'd up and anxious that he'll melt down at the podium in front of the whole world.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: michellewsc2, 10/9/2012 6:29:46 PM     (No. 8921449)

This, to me, sounds like a mop-up story. The MSM has been trying for a week to "understand" and process O's performance. And since the truth is not to their liking they now can say his "poor" performance was related to "busy schedule" and his "disdain" for Romney. The last part being a really stupid reason - disdain.
I personally think Obama did all he could do under the circumstances; and he failed to explain what he's done in the past 4 years in order to be re-elected. No amount of preparation can undo or explain, effectively, his failed leadership.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 10/9/2012 6:39:18 PM     (No. 8921468)

Yeah, he was really strutting as he exited the stage. /s

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Reply 43 - Posted by: comstock, 10/9/2012 6:43:11 PM     (No. 8921476)

"Peasants! You may lick my feet!"

The 72% who think he lost are just too dumb to appreciate his brilliance. Reform or you will be punished.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: CGardner, 10/9/2012 6:51:47 PM     (No. 8921487)

I don't think BO or the Librul Media realizes that Obama (and MOoch) became over-exposed after the first 6 months in office and that the public are genuinely fatigued at him droning on and on, but saying nothing. It certainly doesn't help that droning O is always wasting air space. One of the best things about Romney and Ryan is, that after Obama, they seem brief, to the point and fresh.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: controlfreak, 10/9/2012 6:57:53 PM     (No. 8921498)

I have a feeling that when Obama loses, he will say he really did not want a second term. That's why the rumor is floating around that perhaps Obama does not want to win, to save face when he loses.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: Poliskeptic, 10/9/2012 7:43:50 PM     (No. 8921575)

I think #33 can read Obama's mind.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: noddy, 10/9/2012 7:45:40 PM     (No. 8921577)

My Wee-Wee Board tells me that at their second debate FLOTUS will expose her arms. And for their third debate Obama will utilize socks, a la Bore Gore.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: fritzilou, 10/9/2012 8:21:13 PM     (No. 8921635)

For sure, Michelle knew that he lost; you could see it all over her face.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: JLoophole, 10/10/2012 6:13:08 AM     (No. 8922178)

He didn't know the Hoover Dam was close to Las Vegas. OK...Good thing it wasn't a geography bee, he might have done poorly.

I agree w/ the poster who said the source is probably someone close to the J F'n Kerry camp. No way do they want the blame for this hurricane Katrina of a debate ADDisaster to fall on their shoulders.

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About six in ten American voters think Barack Obama lies to the country on important matters some or most of the time, according to a Fox News poll released Wednesday. Thirty-seven percent think Obama lies “most of the time,” while another 24 percent say he lies “some of the time.” Twenty percent of voters say “only now and then” and 15 percent “never.” Click here for the poll results. President Obama has been accused by political opponents and media fact-checkers alike of telling falsehoods. Frequently cited: His repeated claim that under Obamacare “If you like your plan, you can keep


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