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The ‘Romney Lied’ Defense
National Review Online, by Rich Lowry

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Posted By:StormCnter, 10/9/2012 5:48:05 AM

Credit President Barack Obama’s aides with discernment. Even before the first presidential debate was over, they knew they needed to come up with an excuse, and fast. They settled on one that they haven’t stopped repeating: Mitt Romney lied his way to victory. The president would have rebutted Romney’s gross deceptions, except he was too focused on answering questions about the country’s future and too taken aback by Romney’s brazenness to answer the former governor in real time. Although once he had a day or two and his witty rejoinders

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Spidey, 10/9/2012 5:59:50 AM     (No. 8919562)

Romney is too credible to make the lie accusation stick.Romney hasn't been caught in any slam dunk proof that he's lied about anything.His tax plan is a work in progress,so people can fill in the blanks anyway they want but it's crazy to say he wants a $5 trillion tax cut for rich people while raising taxes on the middle class to pay for it. The clown that came up with this lie is a former Obama insider who's pretending to be non partisan now.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/9/2012 6:15:16 AM     (No. 8919565)

The chorus of "Romney lied" on Sunday's "news" shows was astonishing. They all had their marching orders, didn't they!

This blatant attack needs to be confronted head-on.

Romney needs to call out The Wun at the next debate on his veracity (or great lack thereof). Ask him to tell the American people the truth about....well, no need to list all the deceptions here, but we could start with that "autobiography." (And don't let the little creep get away with calling it "poetic license." This is a man who doesn't know what poetry is, any more than he knows what history is.)

Nominate as a must-read.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Judge, 10/9/2012 6:44:06 AM     (No. 8919587)

These people have no shame

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Reply 4 - Posted by: country boy, 10/9/2012 6:58:13 AM     (No. 8919592)

Obama's four years have been a chorus of lies, wrapped in deceit.

This ad should run nationally, prime time. Obama will be history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_1ZT1hwpng&feature=player_embedded

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Maybeth, 10/9/2012 7:01:58 AM     (No. 8919598)

The left's problem, that Romney has 'failed to live down to their rank caricature of him,' has created a nightmare for Obama. Republicans, and most certainly Mitt Romney, are supposed to turn the other cheek .... be nice to the president. After all, he is a black man, and that is supposed to place him ABOVE criticism.
.... John McCain bought into this, but Mitt is not going to play the race game. Obama is just a man, and that his skin is black should have matter not in the discussion of leadership, pattriotism, character, integrity and ability.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Janjan, 10/9/2012 7:05:01 AM     (No. 8919604)

The core strategy of Obama's campaign has gone up in smoke and they have no fallback. Obama not only can't run on his record, he has no declared post-election agenda. Cap and trade, climate change, amnesty for illegals, etc are all losers with the majority of Americans so the Obama camp has settled on silence. Now the 'destroy Romney' rug has been suddenly pulled out from under them and they still flailing around with 'Romney lies' meme sounding more and more like schoolyard bullies. This is the beginning of the end.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 10/9/2012 7:12:59 AM     (No. 8919615)

That's the 'Rats' greatest strength, #3, a complete lack of a sense of shame.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Hank Reardon, 10/9/2012 7:15:33 AM     (No. 8919622)

He's not black, #5. He's a Mulatto.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: planetgeo, 10/9/2012 7:23:01 AM     (No. 8919631)

The problem for the Obama apparatchiks and their MSM enablers is that the magnificent debate win by Romney in effect inoculated him from these desperate assertions. 67 million people saw Romney unfiltered. And what they saw was a decent, honest, intelligent, and competent man.

Now, no amount of Axelgrease can slime him. And the harder they try, the worse THEY look. Watch for the polls to continue to swing to Romney the more they try to slime him.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: steph_gray, 10/9/2012 7:28:43 AM     (No. 8919645)

My predictions:

Next, Ryan will wipe the floor with Biden, game, set, match. Biden will have at least 3 terrifically funny gaffes.

Then there will be traps all over set for Romney in the town hall debate but he will dodge them while continuing to look presidential - not a huge win but a comfortable one.

Then in the final debate Romney will score knockout punch after punch until the Obammunist either cries or walks off stage.

(Okay, so I can dream, but I have a good feeling it won't happen far differently from this!)

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Reply 11 - Posted by: adguy47, 10/9/2012 7:43:29 AM     (No. 8919667)

Lowry's a liar! (I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.)

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Reply 12 - Posted by: JackBurton, 10/9/2012 8:11:22 AM     (No. 8919712)

Next outing... the pResident will be in full attack mode, will do it too far, and Romney will win by looking like the nice guy that was just there to answer questions...

...whilst the pResident will come across as the petulant effeminate raver looking for a fight.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: binthere_dunthat, 10/9/2012 8:13:15 AM     (No. 8919714)

#3 Not only do they have no shame, but the crude intellect of Chicago thuggery by Axelhole has exposed itself to be on a par with the old school yard taunt - "Yah? well your mother wears army boots".

It's mind boggling to imagine that these lowlifes have been running the country for the last four years. When one sees the mess they've made, reality sets in. The nightmare we're in is proof unfortunately.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: LZK, 10/9/2012 8:24:06 AM     (No. 8919748)

Stay your course President Romney. Don't get dragged into a fight with the demorats.....

WE all know you didn't lie -- and -- WE know who lies all the time -- the liar/in/chief.....

LZK

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Arby, 10/9/2012 8:28:43 AM     (No. 8919767)

The Gorebot still has the pole position among the asses. It was the altitude.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: gartrell bibberts, 10/9/2012 8:31:05 AM     (No. 8919776)

Journalista Lives! And the media pretends to wonder why their "trustyness" has fallen.

In volume 1 of his History of WWII, Churchill explains that socialists (and other tyrants) believe that the ends justify the means.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: gaeditor, 10/9/2012 8:41:03 AM     (No. 8919800)

Eddie Haskell exposed. Finally we see it; Eddie trying to explain himself to Ward, Beaver and Wally's dad. Remember?

Eddie would start to mounth off his obvious BeeEss and the Ward would just sort of cross his arms and say "Uh, huh." and everyone would laugh. Kind of what happened at that debate. Except this time Eddie has an actual fan club of booger-eating nerds like him. Attack of the Urkels.

Now President Haskell-Urkel is trying -with his equally pathetic nerd mininions to explain to everyone why he doesn't have his homework.

It really is to that level.


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Reply 18 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 10/9/2012 9:06:02 AM     (No. 8919865)

As a sociological/psychological phenomenon it was fascinating to watch commenters on the NYT site pick up the meme almost instantly.

But what has Romney 'lied' about? Both Obama and his supporters are dreaming the impossible dream by implying that ROMNEY has been president since Jan 2009 i.e. that Romney is contradicting his record - a record that doesn't exist because it can't exist. Obviously the exact opposite is true.

It is also fascinating to watch Axelrod/Jarrett/Cutter voluntarily abandon any claim to any sort of accomplishment on the part of Obama (now that GM is faltering) and instead focus 100% on destroying the opponent. Obama has an ego but he has no pride - otherwise he might instruct his lieutenants to say something nice about him once in a while. Instead, he scorches the earth along with them. Forget about vetting - Obama is simply unworthy of any public trust.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Hank Reardon, 10/9/2012 9:08:10 AM     (No. 8919872)

I'm guessing Martin Luther King, #18. An actual black guy.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bpl40, 10/9/2012 9:11:43 AM     (No. 8919881)

By calling Romney a liar repeatedly, Zippy and his surrogates are directly attacking the intelligence of Indpendent voters who clearly saw differently. In the second debate these viewers are going to be doing a even harsher evaluation of Democrat ads against what unfolds in front of their eyes and ears. Don't they understand that? Looking at the steady string of exploded cigars in their wake, the simple answer seems to be - no.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Marzipan, 10/9/2012 9:30:28 AM     (No. 8919936)

Pro_26:4 Do not answer a fool according to his foolishness, lest you also be like him.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: RIsailor, 10/9/2012 9:43:57 AM     (No. 8919969)

Axe and company actually believe that Romney is lying. This continues to amaze me. Leftism is a strange belief system. As long as they just talk with each other and aren't called out by the press, they soldier on.

But - when called out publicly, as Cutter was recently by Burnett on CNN about Mitt's "$5 billion tax cut", she caved down to one billion, in a few seconds.


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Reply 23 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 10/9/2012 9:45:32 AM     (No. 8919976)

So what then do all these polls mean to the Democrats? People love a good liar?

This time round the ground is a little shakier for Mr. Silver Tongue. I don't think confident is a word to describe his inner teleprompter. Will the Dems even want a third debate?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: starboard, 10/9/2012 9:48:24 AM     (No. 8919987)

#10 My predictions are almost identical to yours. Furthermore,you are not dreaming.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: enuf8, 10/9/2012 9:55:56 AM     (No. 8920017)

He will have advance information about the questions and his handles hope he can memorize the answers.

We need to be more alerted to the possibility of Voter Fraud than anything else.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: jorgecito, 10/9/2012 10:04:36 AM     (No. 8920048)

#10, an on-stage meltdown by Zero (sudden "illness," perhaps?) may not be likely; but it is within the realm of possibility.

Obama is a hot-house flower who wilts easily.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: outnumberedinillinois, 10/9/2012 10:06:51 AM     (No. 8920056)

#20 is correct, it was MLK.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character

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Reply 28 - Posted by: joeyinempirestate, 10/9/2012 10:27:30 AM     (No. 8920117)

0's potential Hail Mary: Universal mortgage forgiveness; universal student loan forgiveness; payback on Libya; strike on Iran.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: fireboy, 10/9/2012 11:05:48 AM     (No. 8920233)

Like Dylan said, when you ain't got nothin, you got nothin' to lose, and these guys definitely ain't got nothin.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Deedo, 10/9/2012 11:13:30 AM     (No. 8920271)

Here's the Saturday Night Live spoof of the first debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYy9b6ND46c

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Quiet Observer, 10/9/2012 11:53:57 AM     (No. 8920406)

In all fairness, it really isn’t Obama’s fault. In any debate, battle or competition between a real, genuine, self-made American male and a lazy, metrosexual, celebrity-wanna-be, liberal, compulsive liar (yeah, I know… those last 2 are redundant); the result will always be the kind of one-sided drubbing that we witnessed last Wednesday. And the loss is often followed by a litany of baseless “excuses” by the self-absorbed loser and his “entourage” of sycophantic defenders and hanger-oners.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: stealthy, 10/9/2012 11:56:42 AM     (No. 8920417)

Mitt just needs to explain that this is why he has no bi-partisan accomplishments, they cast aspersions instead of trying to get things done.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: broken01, 10/9/2012 12:05:16 PM     (No. 8920449)

I'll sum this up this way. For months the O team who can't shoot straight and their suckups in the MSM called Romney a crook, wimp, and a murderer and basically thought they had him on the ropes. They get to the first debate and the gov. comes out swinging and Oblamo had no defense and thus went down in flames. Having no defense the O team's plugmunchers(Gibbs, Axelgrease, Soledud Obrien etc) have resulted in calling Romney a liar. The only problem with this foolish tact is that the governor is just too credible with his hitting DA WUN that this won't stick. I agree with #5 about how McLame bought into being nice to Odumbo and how Romney ain't playing that game. Number 10 I agree with your assessments wholeheartedly. It's funny how the Obamamedia is playing up the fact that Joe Biden won't put his foot in his mouth during the debate on Thrusday. About how good he did in 2008 and so on. Ryan will eat old goofball Joe's lunch without breaking a sweat.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: artsy, 10/9/2012 12:21:07 PM     (No. 8920510)

The two big lies repeated by the left are:

#1. He lied.
#2. There are no specifics on loop holes and deductions.

The first is a school yard name calling tactic. (They think we are too stupid to recognize it. The poles say otherwise.)

The second could be explained like this. If the cuts are decided in a bipartisan manner, it is more difficult for the left to squeal like stuck pigs that any cut will cause the end of the world as we know it. That is exactly why the left is continually baiting Romney and Ryan to be specific, and why it is so wise of them not to take the bait. I just think if they tactfully offer this explanation, it will kill the argument of the left for specifics.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Dthorny, 10/9/2012 12:37:51 PM     (No. 8920574)

When is letting taxpayers KEEP more of their own money mean the government has to pay for that?
When the government cuts taxes, people SPEND more resulting in MORE tax revenues to the government, more workers get hired resulting in more spending and more tax income to the government. This is what the liberals claim never works and IT HAS WORKED 100% when tried.
GW Bush, JFK, BJ Clinton, Reagan all cut taxes and revenues increased every time.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: DebiAnn, 10/9/2012 1:55:29 PM     (No. 8920896)

The best line I heard about the debates was from Herman Caine:

"a Grown up Shown up"

and the only thing a petulant child can say is "liar". That's our Child in Chief.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: dman, 10/9/2012 2:04:03 PM     (No. 8920912)

Lowry and Ldotters above are on point. However, there's another:

If NerØbama can be confused and taken aback when confronted with Romney's "lies", what will happen when he sits down with Vladimir Putin or Hu Jintao? Will he prevail when faced with their lies? Will the "flexibility" he promised Dmitry Medvedev carry him through? Will he "win" those "debates" for us? Can we get a teleprompter in the room?

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Photoonist, 10/9/2012 2:07:37 PM     (No. 8920926)

This attempted defense of 0bama via his spokesfiends and commercials was so puerile that their next strategic response will probably begin, ''I'm rubber and you're glue.......''

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Reply 39 - Posted by: ivehadit, 10/9/2012 2:11:21 PM     (No. 8920937)

I LOVE how the dems are setting themselves up for such a HUGE fall in the next debate...the president didn't show up, he was off his game, etc, etc...And they are giving away all their points before it even starts! Not to mention that the uglier obama gets the MORE it will help Mitt, LOL!

IF THEY THINK MITT WON'T BE PREPARED FOR OBAMA'S NASTIEST PERFORMANCE, THEN THEY WILL AGAIN(!) BE SHOCKED. GO MITT!!!!

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Reply 40 - Posted by: mickturn, 10/9/2012 2:27:40 PM     (No. 8920973)

Hey Obie and supporters, if you say everyone is a liar, isn't that proof positive YOU are the real liars?

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Reply 41 - Posted by: 4Justice, 10/9/2012 3:56:37 PM     (No. 8921178)

The lefties are doing that "repeat a lie over and over again until the people believe it to be true" junk. I go to lots of postings after articles and get into it with the lefties all the time. I noticed that a few days AFTER the debate is when the posters started all saying things like "I have never heard any candidate lie as much as Romney did". So, being the "terrier with a sock" that I am, I would go after each one about who the real liars are (Obama and leftists in general), exposing their tactics and telling folks that Romney has too much integrity to lie and, besides, he doesn't have to because truth is on our side! I also go on to tell them that leftists don't know economics, finance or history because if they did, they wouldn't vote Democrat unless they are part of the evil elite in power who simply want all the control and wealth for themselves. I love jumping on them and countering their posts. It is the only place where people of other viewpoints will see the truth.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Tianne, 10/9/2012 4:01:38 PM     (No. 8921192)

MSNBC is already saying that Paul Ryan is going to do nothing but 'lie' in the upcoming Ryan/Biden debate. Take note, MSM: that 'lie' thing is getting old and thinking people are more and more viewing you with distrust and disgust.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: wexfordcounty, 10/9/2012 4:14:25 PM     (No. 8921226)

Let's face it, Obama could spend this next debate doing shadow puppets, and the adoring media would still proclaim it a stunning comeback, showing a gutsy new perspective in debating.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Another_Fred, 10/9/2012 6:00:18 PM     (No. 8921398)

Even if this were true, why in the world would they want to keep repeating it? "Our guy is so clueless that if you tell him one fib, he turnings into a bowl of jello." And they think this makes him qualified to lead the West in today's world?

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Reply 45 - Posted by: lencu255, 10/9/2012 7:06:14 PM     (No. 8921514)

And why all this is happening? Because leftists have the media but conservatives don't!
I am drumming this thought: we need conservative mainstream media, like it is supposed to be in the civilized country with opposing parties. We need to forget about bias-shmias. Just have our own newspapers, especially local ones, and tv stations, owned by likes of Trump, Koch brothers or Adelson. And don't let commies penetrate them - they have enough: nyt, wapo (local newspapers reprinting their garbage) and all tv alphabets!

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Reply 46 - Posted by: DoktorFranken, 10/9/2012 7:40:00 PM     (No. 8921570)

projection (prəˈdʒɛkʃən)
— n
psychol
a. the belief, esp in children, that others share one's subjective mental life
b. (See also defense mechanism) The process of projecting one's own hidden desires and impulses

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Reply 47 - Posted by: snowcloud, 10/9/2012 10:27:20 PM     (No. 8921811)

They really do sound like school children with the "He LIED!" line. They never back it up saying what he supposedly lied about. They're just spinning their wheels.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 10/9/2012 11:13:33 PM     (No. 8921890)

Even dumber was the "Romney cheated" meme they tried to push in the aftermath of the slaughter. Romney doesn't need to dignify these silly charges by addressing them directly. He just needs to point out that once again Barry and the Rats are desperately trying to talk about anything but their indefensible record.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 10/9/2012 11:56:00 PM     (No. 8921962)

Romney has a sterling reputation as a business man. You don't get that by being a liar. He was practically idolized fro his work at the Olympics. People may not have liked his politics in MA but he basically did what he said he would do. In summation, Romney has been an honest man all his life.

Yet now, we are to believe that he has flagrantly lied to the public's face. And what proof is there? None. Just BO's assertion.

Meanwhile we have BO who has make spectacular public promises and kept none of them. The most devastating ads against BO are the ones using his own words and showing how he has failed to keep his promises. BO is a lair.

So we have a liar calling an honest man a liar. Logic neatly solves this problem for us.

The electorate KNOWS who is lying. That's why they overwhelmingly thought Romney won the debate. Romney was convincing and BO was not. Romney was truthful and BO was not. And all the whining by liberals will not change that outcome in the public's perception and they know it. That's why they are going nuts.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: Pinchem, 10/10/2012 12:53:30 AM     (No. 8922018)

Democrats Were Raised By Women Described By Bill Maher.


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Reply 51 - Posted by: annie xango, 10/10/2012 1:15:18 AM     (No. 8922042)

#35 Ryan will have to settle for eating Biden's dinner.. Sarah already ate his lunch!!

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Neurosurgeon Ben Carson says the White House wanted him to apologize for “offending” President Obama after he famously delivered a conservative message at the National Prayer Breakfast last year. Carson, the former director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital, recalls the events surrounding his 2013 speech in his new book, One Nation: What We Can All Do To Save America’s Future. The Daily Caller obtained an advance copy of the book, which is set for release May 20. “He did not appear to be hostile or angry,” Carson writes of Obama, “but within a matter of minutes after the conclusion of

Megyn Kelly and the
Sandberg Head Shaker

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American Thinker, by Richard F. Miniter    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/15/2014 9:16:05 AM     Post Reply
Megyn Kelly’s "Kelly File" is a great news show. She’s incisive, informed and customarily handles the toughest guest with aplomb. But her lengthy interview of Facebook C.O.O. Sheryl Sandberg about her second book in the Lean In series Lean In: For Graduates was a head shaker. Amazing that she of all people allowed Sandberg to restring the same old, same old, shamed, and shopworn feminist myths about women and girls and then jangle it in front of her viewing audience like something new out of the box. Indeed Kelly all but genuflected in front of this woman. Kept her on thru

Why You Should Be Sympathetic
Toward Cliven Bundy

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Powerline, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
Posted By: Toledo- 4/15/2014 8:40:58 AM     Post Reply
On Saturday, I wrote about the standoff at Bundy Ranch. That post drew a remarkable amount of traffic, even though, as I wrote then, I had not quite decided what to make of the story. Since then, I have continued to study the facts and have drawn some conclusions. Here they are. First, it must be admitted that legally, Bundy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. The Bureau of Land Management has been charging him grazing fees since the early 1990s, which he has refused to pay. Further, BLM has issued orders limiting the area on which Bundy’s cows can

Has Rush Limbaugh Finally
Reached the End Of The Road?

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Forbes Magazine, by Rick Ungar    Original Article
Posted By: EveningStar- 4/16/2014 7:24:05 PM     Post Reply
Like him or hate him, there is no disputing that Rush Limbaugh’s very special brand of mixing right-wing politics with his flare for entertainment has produced one of the most successful radio programs in the medium’s long history. Whatever the burning political question of the day, millions of Americans have relished the opportunity to tune into Rush’s program, knowing that he would quickly take that hot potato, throw a few gallons of verbal kerosene into the mix and elevate the matter into a five alarm fire with a just a few well-chosen words spoken in the style only Rush Limbaugh could

Biden Tells Boston Bombing
Survivors, ´It Was Worth It´ (Video)

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Breitbart´s Instablog, by Debra Heine    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 9:28:18 PM     Post Reply
Less than a minute into his speech at the Boston marathon bombing memorial on Tuesday, Vice President Joe Biden went tragically off script and told the crowd of Boston bombing survivors that "it was worth it." After expressing how impressed he was with the tribute, he said somberly, "let me say to those ´quote survivors,´ my God, you have survived and you have soared. It was worth it. I mean this sincerely - just to hear each of you speak. You´re truly, truly inspiring." The audience sat in stunned silence until Biden declared, "I´ve never heard anything so beautiful than

Casual marijuana use linked with
brain abnormalities, study finds

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Fox News, by Loren Grush    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 6:12:53 PM     Post Reply
Casual marijuana use may come with some not-so-casual side effects. For the first time ever, researchers at Northwestern University have analyzed the relationship between casual use of marijuana and brain changes – and found that young adults who used cannabis just once or twice a week showed significant abnormalities in two important brain structures. The study’s findings, to be published Wednesday in the Journal of Neuroscience, are similar to those of past research linking chronic, long-term marijuana use with mental illness and changes in brain development. Dr. Hans Breiter, co-senior study author, said he was inspired to look at the effects of casual

Which Actor Portrays The
Best James Bond?

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American Spectator, by Jonah Goldberg and Taki Theodoracopulos    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/16/2014 11:20:22 AM     Post Reply
Look, everyone loves Sean Connery, particularly Sean Connery. That’s why he plays Sean Connery in every movie he’s in. People love that Scottish brogue so much, they don’t mind that he has it when he plays Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez, an immortal Spaniard in Highlander. The guy even won an Oscar for playing an Irish cop with a Scottish accent. Talk about sexist double standards: Meryl Streep has to master foreign dialects to get her golden statuettes. Connery just has to show up on time. In economics you devalue a currency by printing too much of it. In film you


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