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Pew Poll: Mitt Romney Storms
Into The Lead Over Obama

Business Insider, by Brett LoGiurato

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Posted By:Maryland_Patriot, 10/8/2012 8:24:40 PM

In a shocking one-month swing, Mitt Romney stormed into the lead over President Barack Obama in a new Pew Research poll conducted after Romney's consensus victory in the first presidential debate. The poll finds a 11-point swing among likely voters. In Pew's last poll, conducted in the middle of September, Obama led Romney 51-43 among likely voters. Now, Romney leads 49-46. The shift is due to Romney shoring up key areas of strength among likely voters and improving his overall image, much of which can be attributed to his strang debate performance. Sixty-six percent of voters thought

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Sfacheem, 10/8/2012 8:32:28 PM     (No. 8919103)

FTA: "The poll sampled 36 percent Republicans, 31 percent Democrats and 30 percent Independents. It's notable because most polls over the past two years have found higher samples of Democrats, leading to recent charges of bias and so-called "unskewing" of results."

Not sure what they're trying to say here.



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Reply 2 - Posted by: Paglia guy, 10/8/2012 8:39:24 PM     (No. 8919111)

Yabba dabba doo!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: chance_232, 10/8/2012 8:46:32 PM     (No. 8919129)

"Not sure what they're trying to say here."

Easy.......... In a week or two they either correctly sample dems'reps or over sample dems and then declare Obama the "Comeback Kid"

NEVER trust the liberals..........

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Reply 4 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 10/8/2012 9:18:53 PM     (No. 8919170)

It's simple: We've got problems that require adult leadership. We've got a man in Mitt Romney who has accomplished things in life. Barry, on the other hand, has been praised and promoted all his life for voting "present". Besides, Americans aren't really all that into Marxist ideology.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: lil dotty, 10/8/2012 10:21:03 PM     (No. 8919263)

Ride 'em cowboy He ha Stay on that bronco. Thank you Lord!! The bamster's going down ...
low. BHO how about an on air breakdown? That would be worth the price of a ticket *exactly 4 bits each* Gov. praying for you, Sir

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Reply 6 - Posted by: thegare, 10/8/2012 10:25:40 PM     (No. 8919272)

If the sample was as number one states, then Mitt is behind in Michigan......no way Michigan has more Pubies then Dems.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 10/9/2012 7:23:37 AM     (No. 8919633)

We've got a month to go, folks.

Pray and work, work and pray.

The Dems are not going to go down gracefully --as we can see from the "Romney Lied" meme. Dems will lie, cheat, steal, and if necessary, murder.

Pray and work, work and pray.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: RIsailor, 10/9/2012 7:31:40 AM     (No. 8919649)

I've always been kinda suspicious of Pew as liberal organization, probably cuz Andy Kohut their survey expert is often on the PBS News Hour.

Now that they are reporting how well Mitt is doing in their poll, I checked them out in Wikipedia.

This quote from the late Joseph N. Pew, Jr. (founder of Sunoco and creator of the $5 billion trust) - calling Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal -"a gigantic scheme to raze U.S. businesses to a dead level and debase the citizenry into a mass of ballot-casting serf" is making me a new believer in Pew surveys.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: Jebediah, 10/9/2012 7:49:31 AM     (No. 8919676)

Do not get overconfident here!!!!!!!-----Romney is still running, in general, an underwhelming campaign, passing by opportunity after opportunity to do quick response ads to some of the more egregious Obama comments and betting it all on the debates (which I hope will be fine but the PRESS WON'T THINK SO) and the hope that that that same Press will cover things like the military speech. BUT NEVER underestimate the vicious, nasty Chicago stuff that the Obama campaign will be putting out---we have just seen the tip of the iceberg...we will see the dead and illegals vote, foreigners contribute big bucks, the sweeping under the rug of anything iffy, like BenGazi and Fast & Furious and the WARN law......and the MSM will cover for the man. They may have been stunned by the lst debate, but they are still there, as partisan as ever.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Hermoine, 10/9/2012 7:52:37 AM     (No. 8919684)

#8 -- Don't be fooled by the fact that the Pew Foundation was originally created by a common-sense, successful, conservative-minded businessman. So were Ford, MacArthur and many other large, influential foundations. Sadly, many of their children and grand-children were 60's counterculture lefties who now sit on the boards and direct funds to leftist organizations. David Horowitz's book, The New Leviathan, details this nicely: http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Leviathan-Money-Machine-ebook/dp/B006OHIXK2

Now, regarding those polls...perhaps they seem to have swung so wildly because they were never correct in the first place. Romney has been much, much closer to Obama all along, but now, because they skewed them so far to their favor a month ago, they are having to eat crow because it appears that Romney has just completely overtaken him.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Maybeth, 10/9/2012 7:56:44 AM     (No. 8919688)


The polls say?
Interesting, this change.

Although it's true that Obama's dim-witted debate performance was the evening's highlight, I believe that the on-going LIES have finally caught up with the president, his henchmen and the Old Media.
.... This anti-America bunch has been outed as dishonest manipulators intent on the destruction of our United States Constitution and the freedoms which separate America from nations ruled by oppressive despots.

The exit polls showed that Hugo Chavez lost the election.
Ooops.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Grambo, 10/9/2012 8:10:12 AM     (No. 8919709)

Polls are too easily manipulated to be worth the trouble of reading. A count of bumper stickers or yard signs would be far more illuminating.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: suziesuburbanite, 10/9/2012 8:14:43 AM     (No. 8919722)

It's amazing what competence on display will do

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Reply 14 - Posted by: LZK, 10/9/2012 8:16:49 AM     (No. 8919730)

The "polling" is driving me crazy.....

Every media outlet and consultant is tied to "polls" -- whether good or bad....

Look -- the only poll that counts is November 6th....

Yesterday a poster said something I can identify with as a Chicago citizen. It doesn't matter "who" votes -- only WHO counts the votes. Here in Illinois obama has won already because speaker madigan and lisa madigan and rahm emanuel and our governor all counted the votes with the help of the SIEU thugs.... Yes it's been decided already who will win and the votes have been lined up to accommodate that result.

Welcome to business done the Chicago way....

LZK

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Reply 15 - Posted by: bnrmusa, 10/9/2012 8:24:55 AM     (No. 8919751)

#6, many of those democrats have sparkly bass boats and pickup trucks. They are ripe for the picking.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: My 2 Cents, 10/9/2012 8:40:15 AM     (No. 8919796)

What a wonderful October surprise.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: JAN, 10/9/2012 8:41:43 AM     (No. 8919804)

Have the men in white coats come to take tingles away?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bpl40, 10/9/2012 8:44:38 AM     (No. 8919811)

#3 may have a point. This is the first poll we have seen which has sampled more Republicans - may be deliberately over sampled. This does smell like a trap. After the second dabate the sampling will go back to 'normal' and Zippy will loudly be procalimed to be the come back kid. But Mitt on the other hand also will come more prepared and knowledgeable about his opponent's weaknesses. It could backfire on these guys.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: raspberry, 10/9/2012 8:46:59 AM     (No. 8919816)

#10 is correct. View this with caution.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bobgray2, 10/9/2012 8:51:45 AM     (No. 8919825)

Sounds like they are trying to turn 0bama into the underdog in this race, despite his being an incumbent president. Going for that sympathy vote, because probably 5% of the electorate are suckers for that kind of thing.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: gusman, 10/9/2012 8:53:17 AM     (No. 8919828)

#1 for the first time you are seeing a poll based on the 2010 election model, basically all the polls prior are using over sampling of Dems and under sampling of Repubs. You will see more accurate polls in the weeks before the election because polling companies DO NOT want to miss the results big time as it will severely hurt their reputation and will lose business.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: chillijilli, 10/9/2012 8:59:29 AM     (No. 8919842)

What would be so hard about Pew (or any of the others) using CONSISTENT oversampling in their polls? If they choose to oversample Demos by +4, fine---then just report the oversampling up front but then *keep* oversampling +4 Demos in all future polls.
Apparently, they are more interested in manipulating poll numbers and thereby manipulating the news than they are in providing solid factual data for comparison purposes.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Tina Marie M, 10/9/2012 9:00:25 AM     (No. 8919844)

Prayers do get answered! Keep on storming Heaven with them!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: rustycfc, 10/9/2012 9:05:06 AM     (No. 8919859)

solong barry and go join your gang in chicago.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: awen, 10/9/2012 9:27:01 AM     (No. 8919924)

I do not trust polls good or bad. There is always an agenda. Guaranteed, if the polls slant towards Romney, the MSM will be trumpeting the "come-back kid" meme for Obama when they go back to their over sampling of Democrats SOP.



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Reply 26 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 10/9/2012 9:32:59 AM     (No. 8919944)

It seems to me I heard pundits say before the debates, "Debates don't matter much these days, people are pretty well dug in." Well, I guess they've been excavated.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: joeyinempirestate, 10/9/2012 9:40:24 AM     (No. 8919960)

The new template: 0 rebounds in Debate #2, thus cancelling out all of Mitt's gains from Debate #1...it's a ballgame again! dead even!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/9/2012 9:45:40 AM     (No. 8919978)

KNOW PEW

n 1957, J Howard Pew, founder of Sunoco, created the J. Howard Pew Freedom Trust with his $1 billion estate trust with instructions that it use its funds to "acquaint the American people" with "the evils of bureaucracy," "the values of the free market," and "the paralyzing effects of government controls on lives and activities of people," to "inform our people of the struggle, persecution, hardship, sacrifice and death by which freedom of the individual was won" and to educate them about how "Socialism, Welfare statism [and] Fascism . . . are but devices by which government seizes the ownership or control of the tools of production." In accordance with those wishes, the Freedom Trust funded mostly libertarian and conservative activities, as long as its board consisted of Pew family members and friends.

Think that's still Pew today?
Think someone got in there and twisted J Howard's clearly stated estate instructions to fortress the Left?

Dang right it happened. NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING FROM PEW.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: gwmcclintok, 10/9/2012 9:46:38 AM     (No. 8919981)

I am not in the least concerned about the election....it will be a landslide. I am concerned right now about the three weeks leading up to the election. These totalitarians are not going to just fade away. Something is up I feel. Every morning I get up going to Drudge to see if the 'it' has hit.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: andyboy, 10/9/2012 10:12:39 AM     (No. 8920075)

Although R+5 seems a little too good to be true, it does illustrate how much impact sampling has on the poll result.

On the other hand, if Romney really does have a huge lead among independents, that is very significant indeed.



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Reply 31 - Posted by: Deedo, 10/9/2012 10:56:17 AM     (No. 8920205)

First, I love it when the Good Guy "Storms" into the lead!

Second, I think that R+5 might still be oversampling Democrats this time around.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: rexhandsom, 10/9/2012 11:23:18 AM     (No. 8920307)

Hollly Poop .... I stumbled into a ROOM OF PARANOID Republicans or next week's SNL show

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Butch59, 10/9/2012 11:41:39 AM     (No. 8920364)

#21 has already said what I was going to. I have little on no faith in all of these "polls" simply because they have, for the most part, an agenda of their own. However, as the election gets closer and closer, they will attempt to poll in a more even handed way because they don't want to have their results so far out of reality on election day. That would cost them a lot of business. After all, selling their product is how they make money.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: sgmode, 10/9/2012 11:53:23 AM     (No. 8920402)

Just voted today in Akron,Ohio all Republican...felt great!
A few observations: It was a mad house and took me 50 min.
There were alot of AA (Africa Americans) voters.They were Bused in.
Our turn out is critcial!

I had to fill out 2 sheets,on both it asked for your DL# or last 4 digits of SS#. Officials check it to see if they match, one AA bro was called out on it... that was reasuring.
I will go to my polling place in Nov. to see if it is recorded that I voted early.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Udanja99, 10/9/2012 12:16:17 PM     (No. 8920493)

Perhaps this poll actually reflects the real percentage breakdowns of republicans, damnocrats and indies in the country. In that case, the results would be right on target.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Conservativegirl, 10/9/2012 12:23:53 PM     (No. 8920526)

I suspect that the truth between this and the pollsters that are in the bag for Zero, is in between. Although, the lefty polls have been more over on their side. I think if we at least cosider Dems and Pubs to be an equal percentage, it's probably R-47 and O-45.


Girl's Hubby

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Reply 37 - Posted by: dman, 10/9/2012 2:10:35 PM     (No. 8920935)

At this point I take all polls with skepticism. Romney must press ahead on offense, block and tackle, take advantage of what opportunities present themselves, and not pay too much attention to the scoreboard.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: nevernaught, 10/9/2012 2:34:56 PM     (No. 8920998)

A better summary would be 'The poll sampled 36 percent Republicans, 31 percent Democrats and 30 percent Independents', however the cemetery vote isn't in yet.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: thecatalyst, 10/9/2012 2:58:49 PM     (No. 8921043)

Here is my prediction: Romney wins big in November. The Obamas begin a television career next year--most likely with a liberal talk show. They may be defeated, but they will never go away silently.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 10/9/2012 3:06:52 PM     (No. 8921059)

Sample ratios mean EVERYTHING in these polls and the truth is, no one really knows what the correct portions of Republicans, dems, and Independents are. Any poll that uses the 2008 ratios is worthless. We can almost guarantee that there are NOT as many dems as 2008 and probably a lot more Independents. I could argue that most interesting aspect of a poll is the trend established when using consistent rations over time. That's why Rasmussen is useful, not for their absolute numbers but the trend toward Romney. Whatever the voter mix actually is, Romney has gained a lot of strength.

My person view is that BO is too massively liberal and incompetent to have the kind of support claimed. His debate performance showed no intellectual power. He was programmed with his talking points and he stuck to them, even when Romney denied them. Of course the liberal take is that Romney lied instead of that BO was wrong. What has BO done that gives us any confidence in him for the future? He TOLD us he can't work with Republicans. That's why he has taken all these unilateral actions. So what will change in the future that will allow him to get things done? Will all the Republicans just vanish? He probably wishes they would.

I cannot believe that a majority of the electorate is dumb enough to accept BO's record of abject failure and gullible enough to think he will do any better in the next 4 years. I have more faith in the American people than that. If my faith is misplaced, the Country is doomed anyway.

Romney is clearly a FAR better choice, strongly successful in business, politics, and the in betweens of the Olympics. I believe most people can see that.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 10/9/2012 4:17:33 PM     (No. 8921231)

"This is a B.. F....... D...!'
- Joe Bite-me

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Reply 42 - Posted by: fairplay, 10/9/2012 6:59:02 PM     (No. 8921502)

Romney can't be worse than Obama.

Give Romney a chance!

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Reply 43 - Posted by: msts, 10/9/2012 9:55:29 PM     (No. 8921769)

Make a few assumptions. Assume that the two parties are equally split. It doesn't matter how split, say 40% each with 20% as Independents. At 78%, that puts Romney up 56 - 44. If polls being run from MI, PA and OH show Romney in "striking distance" amonth before the election, and being reported as such, not as "Obama ahead", this shows internal data has Romney ahead in those states. All the numbers are shown as close to get the Dem voters out because it must be shown in their internal data that the base is de-energized and not likely to come out. I think a romp by Romney with lots of "But I don't know anyone who voted for Mitt" conversations afterwards.
From my lips to God's ears.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 10/9/2012 10:05:32 PM     (No. 8921784)

I was polled for the first time today by a recording who asked a lot of personal questions.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 10/10/2012 12:10:39 AM     (No. 8921984)

I have to believe that the people who turned out in 2010 to give the democrats their shellacking have not disappeared. Someone said recently that 40 million people claim affiliation or sympathy with the Tea Party.

They aren't going to vote for Obama next month.

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

´America´s royal baby´: How Chelsea´s first
child could give Hillary Clinton a boost in
the polls if she runs for president in 2016

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Jessica Jerreat    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/19/2014 7:12:10 PM     Post Reply
For Hillary Clinton, having her own baby grandchild to kiss on the campaign trail, could be one of the biggest boosts to her possible presidential election campaign. Although the former Secretary of State and First Lady has not said if she will run in 2016, the arrival of her first grandchild will soften her image, analysts have said. While Chelsea only revealed her pregnancy on Thursday, supporters of her mother have already started cooing over a possible baby in the White House. With the Clintons having a near-royal status in the U.S., the announcement of a new arrival due this fall has sent

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too


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