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VP debates can kill
political careers

CNN, by Julian Zelizer

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Posted By:Photoonist, 10/8/2012 4:21:37 PM

Thursday's vice presidential debate will not receive nearly as much attention as the battles between Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama. After all, the debates between the vice presidential candidates are a bit like watching AAA baseball. Right now, most voters are focused on the people running for the highest office in the land. Nevertheless, vice presidential debates have a colorful history. Although they don't do much to affect the results of the actual campaign, they can have an effect on the future of a candidate's career regardless of whether the ticket wins or loses. (Snip) In 1976, Sen. Bob

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I get the ''hidden''message in this article. Ryan had better not be too nasty on poor Joe Biden because that might ruin Ryan's political career. The leftist press whores might write about that ''mean smart Republican policy wonk.'' I don't know how Biden can even imagine running for president in 2016 when he's profoundly failed more than once and today often doesn't even know where he is standing.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 10/8/2012 4:26:20 PM     (No. 8918702)

That whole, long article mostly just to take a shot a Sarah.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 10/8/2012 4:27:04 PM     (No. 8918703)

Slow Joe's dismal performance against the media-demonized Sarah Palin should have ended his career.

OTOH, maybe it did.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: killerbee, 10/8/2012 4:32:45 PM     (No. 8918715)

And Joe Biden is the nicest man in the world! He's like the best grandpa everyone never had. If Ryan doesn't go easy on him, he's being really mean to your grandpa!

I think I've got the narrative.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: 901AtTheRiver, 10/8/2012 4:34:51 PM     (No. 8918719)

Here's marching orders for Ryan: Let 'er rip. No holds barred.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: octrojan, 10/8/2012 4:37:52 PM     (No. 8918730)

Silly article. Palin cleaned the floor with Biden. McCain was the dead weight on that ticket.

Quayle was picked because GHWB wanted a young, handsome guy to balance his age and "out-of-touchness." GHWB was behind with women with he picked Quayle. I don't get the appeal but Dan Q did his job, raising GHWB's share of the women vote. Remind me again--who won that election?

Ford was never going to win post-Watergate. Once again, Dole did his job as hatchet man.

The only part that is correct here is Cheney's destruction of My Little Pony...



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Reply 6 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 10/8/2012 4:44:11 PM     (No. 8918743)

FTA: ''With Vice President Joe Biden possibly considering a run for the presidency in 2016...''

Is this serious??? That clown couldn't run a lemonade stand. Who would HE choose for VP, Alfred E. Neuman? Even the media couldn't help Bite-Me.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/8/2012 4:59:21 PM     (No. 8918771)

Never forget that Obama CHOSE this ignoramus to be VP. ONE heartbeat away from President. He ain't your grandpa.
He is a viscious,lieing phony rich white man pretending to be a "coaltown" man.
Did I mention he is stupid too?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Quigley, 10/8/2012 5:24:59 PM     (No. 8918818)

I was ok with the article. I am a Palin fan but I am interest in the critique in this article. I am such a Palin fan I would not be capable of watching objectively in 2008. It would be interesting to watch again now.

All i remember about the debate was that stupid admitted the invasion of Iraq was legal under international law. I had been having a big argument with a coworker who said it wasn't so biden's statement that it was legal was gratifying.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 10/8/2012 5:28:09 PM     (No. 8918829)

0bama picked him so when they were together in a room he wouldn't be the dumbest person there. That said, I think you would have to be stupid to play second fiddle to an Empty Chair.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: thefield, 10/8/2012 5:32:17 PM     (No. 8918837)

I had heard somewhere Palin did win but Joe was covered my the L(ie)SM.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: DoggerelPundit, 10/8/2012 5:43:10 PM     (No. 8918859)

"After all, the debates between the vice presidential candidates are a bit like watching AAA baseball. Right now, most voters are focused on the people running for the highest office in the land. Nevertheless, vice presidential debates have a colorful history. Although they don't do much to affect the results of the actual campaign,..."

Right. And everything will happen as before, so mote it be!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Starlifter Nav, 10/8/2012 5:47:42 PM     (No. 8918868)

I'd be honored to travel the same road so such a good and worthy a man as Paul Ryan has traveled before me..

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Starlifter Nav, 10/8/2012 5:49:10 PM     (No. 8918871)

Doh! Nothing like a dumb typo to kill your message.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Sunhan65, 10/8/2012 5:59:00 PM     (No. 8918889)

FTA: "...both Ryan and Biden will need to be careful not to act in ways that undercut their ability to run for the presidency four years from now."

Uh, why, exactly, would Vice-President Ryan be running for the presidency in four years? Just goes to show how deeply idiotic presumption runs at Princeton University and CNN.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Safari Man, 10/8/2012 6:08:03 PM     (No. 8918895)

Biden looks like warmed over dead. He'll be lucky if he's ambulatory in 4 years.


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Reply 16 - Posted by: sinic, 10/8/2012 6:23:46 PM     (No. 8918913)

"After all, the debates between the vice presidential candidates are a bit like watching AAA baseball."
Not true...this one's gonna have more entertainment value for your hard earned dollar than any comedy that's currently on tv. I'll guarantee that Plugs sticks his foot in his mouth every other answer. I'm looking forward to laughing as hard as I did in the uncut Blazing Saddles!


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Reply 17 - Posted by: noddy, 10/8/2012 6:29:51 PM     (No. 8918920)

I'm with #16. This debate is going to be Entertainment!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: jorgecito, 10/8/2012 6:31:14 PM     (No. 8918922)

This writer is full of it. Sarah Palin wiped the floor with Joe Biden during the VP debate of 2008.

And now this little CNN scribbler is just brimming with CW (conventional wisdom) about the upcoming Ryan-Biden match.

Funny thing about CW. Sometimes it proves 100% wrong -- as it was in its predictions about the first Romney-Obama Remember how every pundit & reporter was instructing us that "debates never make much difference"?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 10/8/2012 6:39:13 PM     (No. 8918933)

Let's see, Bob Dole ran for President several times after 1976 and was finally the Republican nominee in 1996. Where he did as poorly in the general election as the primary voters in previous years had expected. Dan Quayle, please name the VP to a single term President who went on to have much of a political career after that? For that matter, name me the VP candidate on a losing ticket where that was not the high water mark of their political career?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: woodsman, 10/8/2012 9:40:25 PM     (No. 8919207)

Agree...this isn't AAA baseball...it's more like basketball with Ryan playing the role of a Harlem Globetrotter

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