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Production of electric
vehicles has twice the
global warming potential
of fossil fuel powered cars

Tuscon Citizen (AZ), by Jonathan DuHamel

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Posted By:Scottyboy, 10/6/2012 7:22:23 PM

A new Norwegian study, “Comparative Environmental Life Cycle Assessment of Conventional and Electric Vehicles” published in the Journal of Industrial Ecology (full paper here) found that the “use phase” of electric vehicles (EVs) “powered by the present European electricity mix offers a 10% to 24% decrease in global warming potential (GWP) relative to conventional diesel or gasoline vehicles assuming lifetimes of 150,000 km. However, EVs exhibit the potential for significant increases in human toxicity, freshwater eco-toxicity, freshwater eutrophication, and metal depletion impacts, largely emanating from the vehicle supply chain.” The authors call that “problem shifting.”

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I love the sound of enviromentalist-wacko head's exploding in the morning...

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 10/6/2012 7:43:50 PM     (No. 8914938)

I know that, most sensible people know that, how's come the greenies and the EPA
know it. Let them whine and swing and suffer.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 10/6/2012 7:47:12 PM     (No. 8914947)

Progressives are equally immune to the opinions of their adversaries and scientific observations.

Only the DOGMA matters.

And the DOGMA is: Humans are a cancer on the planet.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/6/2012 8:05:58 PM     (No. 8914966)

I am to the point of desiring less studies, especially the European variety conducted by unnamed researchers.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: JHSMom02, 10/6/2012 8:06:08 PM     (No. 8914968)

Okay, so the Envirowackos want to shut down coal plants, they don't want to drill for domestic oil or natural gas, they don't want to build nuclear plants in their back yards, and they don't want to build hydro-electric plants that might endanger an obscure creature, but they want to plug their electric cars into a wall socket to charge its battery. Do I have that right? Hey wackos, where do you think the electricity comes from that charges the battery in your environmentally friendly cars? Oh, and btw, the manufacture of said environmentally friendly cars does more damage to the environment then traditionally manufactured cars. Sigh! You can't fix stupid.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 10/6/2012 8:10:34 PM     (No. 8914971)

Hybrid cars make about as much sense as powering your sailboat by running a fan to blow wind into the sails, a long-time cartoon favorite.

Still, it is *barely* possible that in crowded urban environments, where you're waiting at lights a lot of time or crawling along under 15mph on jammed freeways, a hybrid can at least break even by shifting the pollution to another place and time.

Of course what would *really* make sense in those situations is an all-electric car, about 1,000 pounds, with about a 50 mile range and a top speed below 80mph, just a safety cage and a small motor and battery. Nobody wants that, nobody is offering that, and nothing much larger than that makes much sense, when you run the numbers.



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Reply 6 - Posted by: sanjuro, 10/6/2012 8:44:00 PM     (No. 8915001)

Electricity comes from the earth. Plug the car into the ground and the energy of the earth will charge it immediately. There is no need for electric plants, that is the great mystery of why green energy is the future.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: chance_232, 10/6/2012 8:47:23 PM     (No. 8915003)

The beauty of so called "green" electric vehicles is that you get your pollution up front.

Now about the battery disposal.............

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Reply 8 - Posted by: philsner, 10/6/2012 11:09:07 PM     (No. 8915177)

Global warming is a liberal hoax.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 10/6/2012 11:29:28 PM     (No. 8915195)

#6.....

I had a power-gen tech (in Iraq) who swore up and down that the reason we "Grounded" all of our generators was because they would run out of electrons if they weren't plugged into the ground.

They eventually took him off in a crazy suit.

But....where DO those fresh new electrons come from ???

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Reply 10 - Posted by: coldoc, 10/7/2012 1:01:03 AM     (No. 8915250)

Well #9. Its very simple -all plants and animals are endowed by gaia with electrons. Every time those stinkin' humans force electrons onto wires to power their incandescent lightbulbs, they are forever removed from nature. I know this is so, because an OWS guy? told me.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Trigger2, 10/7/2012 6:03:29 AM     (No. 8915328)

All these eco-terrorists need to be deported to the middle of the Sahara so they can fully enjoy no electricity, no cars, no nothing.

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