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Friendly fire killed Border
Patrol agent, sources tell NBC News

NBC News, by Pete Williams

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Posted By:thudlike, 10/5/2012 11:47:18 PM

Investigators are preparing to announce that the death of Border Patrol Agent Nicholas Ivie in Arizona earlier this week was the result of friendly fire -- accidental gunfire from another agent who responded to the same scene, state and federal officials told NBC News on Friday. The conclusion is based on an analysis of the ballistics, the lack of evidence of other criminals in the area at the time, and other factors, the sources said. The FBI released a statement later on Friday confirming that preliminary evidence showed friendly fire was to blame in the shootings.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: thelmalou, 10/5/2012 11:51:09 PM     (No. 8913354)

:heavysigh: I'm so sorry. For all involved, and their families.


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Reply 2 - Posted by: horacer, 10/5/2012 11:59:42 PM     (No. 8913361)

This is very sad. These agents risk so much every time they go out.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: stonepony, 10/6/2012 12:14:08 AM     (No. 8913375)

Is this the same FBI that put a former VA Marine in a mental hospital?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: coldoc, 10/6/2012 12:23:06 AM     (No. 8913391)

And we can now believe everything these people tell us because...........?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: danu, 10/6/2012 12:51:31 AM     (No. 8913424)

''Preliminary evidence''...does that translate to: wait 3 wks til its safe to walk in, walk out--after everyone else has stomped all over the evidence--then fly home...?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: LAW428, 10/6/2012 1:35:30 AM     (No. 8913446)

Really, how can we trust this to be the truth? Is this another manipulation of the news and an outright lie?

The problem now is, we can never trust an untrustworthy media to give us anything but a fudging of the facts to fit a political agenda.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: kenecarroll, 10/6/2012 1:48:04 AM     (No. 8913458)

Hey NBC...friendly fire, FRIENDLY FIRE! Ha! No such thing. Seems to me the only friendly fire that we are seeing (if you can call it friendly fire) is the fire coming from these George Soros funded news agencies. In case you idiots in the MSM haven't learned, seems like the closer the United States gets to falling into 3rd world status, the more stepped up these ATTACKS on out citizens and agents get. There is a feeding frenzy going on right now from all the animals from outside our borders AND inside. Friendly Fire????? I don't think so NBC.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 10/6/2012 1:48:48 AM     (No. 8913460)

Lemme tell ya, friends, they ain't nothin' friendly about 'friendly fire'. All that scrap metal flying back and forth really doesn't much care who or what it hits.

A big part of infantry training is learning how not to shoot yourself or your buddies.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Twiggy, 10/6/2012 1:50:02 AM     (No. 8913462)

I'm not buying it. They probably found the gun was from Fast & furious and don't want to reveal it. I don't believe anything this admin. comes out with.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 10/6/2012 2:07:27 AM     (No. 8913473)

Believe n-o-t-h-i-n-g from the Obama Regime. Lying is their stock in trade. I wouldn`t put it past them to blame it on friendly fire just to avoid having to deal with the drug cartels.

Obama needs the illegal criminal alien vote in November to steal the election from Romney so drumming up more animosity at this late stage between Mexico and the US won`t fly with Obama.

This is just another in a long series of `man-caused disasters`.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: TXknitter, 10/6/2012 2:43:02 AM     (No. 8913497)

Six, 9 and 10 are right on as far as I am concerned. We have been lied to constantly with respect to US-Mexico border issues. Obama is being allowed to use every seat of power in the government to fashion the version of "truth" that helps his reelection.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Trigger2, 10/6/2012 2:46:41 AM     (No. 8913502)

There you have it. Now the FBI is lying saying a fast & furious gun was 'friendly fire'.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Spidey, 10/6/2012 3:47:18 AM     (No. 8913525)

A ballistic test should be all you need, not a lack of other suspects being around. They reported to a scene of some sort,so there must have been some shady characters in the area.There's something fishy about this whole story.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: geoguy, 10/6/2012 6:08:30 AM     (No. 8913578)

I don't understand. Lack of criminals in the area?

How does that work? So, a firefight happens, I would assume with the criminals, then what? The criminals leave yet the agents keep firing away? At that time, one of our agents hits another agent? I've never been in a firefight, so I don't know what to think. However, with all the lies and cover up associated with Fast and Furious I don't know what to believe any more.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: JAN, 10/6/2012 7:00:22 AM     (No. 8913634)

If this had be leaked to NBC it doesn't pass the smell test.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 10/6/2012 7:15:21 AM     (No. 8913659)

We'll have to wait til after the election to get the truth. If Oblamer wins (God forbid) we'll NEVER hear the truth.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Lone Star Csar, 10/6/2012 8:20:33 AM     (No. 8913757)

Agree with those saying it doesn't pass the smell test. If there were no unfriendlies, what were all these agents responding to? It should be very easy to figure out who did the shooting, if it was an agent. This agent was in a group of three on horseback. Do they mean that the unwounded agent shot at the other two he rode out with, knowing they were in proximity, and not being sure of his target? Or do they mean that another agent altogether was responding to the same report, did not know other agents were in the vicinity, and shot at three uniformed agents on horseback because that's what border perps usually look like.

Either federal training is so deficient as to be negligent, or we are being given more of the same mushroom treatment we've been receiving for at least 4 years.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 10/6/2012 8:42:36 AM     (No. 8913801)

You can't believe anything reported by NBC. This is to help Zero.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: BarryNo, 10/6/2012 8:47:54 AM     (No. 8913812)

Under any circumstances,this would be a tragedy.

And it is, but one can't help but wonder if it's also another lie - that they were killed by a 'Fast and Furious' gun, or that they were silenced because they discovered something or knew something that Obama and Company couldn't allow to come out in the campaign season.

I rarely trust governments. But this is the first one in my life that I remember fearing.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 10/6/2012 9:43:04 AM     (No. 8913934)

"Either federal training is so deficient as to be negligent, or we are being given more of the same mushroom treatment we've been receiving for at least 4 years"

Another armchair gunfighter, I see...

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bighambone, 10/6/2012 11:17:49 AM     (No. 8914107)

It's too early to come to any conclusion on this incident. Let's wait and allow law enforcement to present their findings that will, with all the public scrutiny and the other thousands of border patrol agents watching, have to be based upon physical evidence, and testimony from the surviving agents.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Japanorama, 10/6/2012 3:22:37 PM     (No. 8914548)

Saints preserve us from such friends.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: mitzi, 10/6/2012 3:27:32 PM     (No. 8914555)

Fire from your friendly "fast and furious" weapon?

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