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Topic: Palin predicts media will declare Obama winner |
Palin predicts media will declare Obama winner
Washington Post, by Erik Wemple
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Posted By:MissMolly, 10/4/2012 5:49:37 AM
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| In a chat with Neil Cavuto of Fox Business Network, Sarah Palin issues a prediction right after last night’s debate. “Ninety percent of the liberal media — the lamestream media — they’re going to say, of course, that Barack Obama won the debate.” Though Palin is generally crafty enough to make highly squishy statements about stuff, this one is slightly fact-checkable. Running down just a few of the institutions commonly associated with media mainstreamness, we discover that perhaps Palin needs to recalibrate just a touch:
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Comments: I assume she didn't watch it, or if she watched it, didn't understand it.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
skedaddle, 10/4/2012 5:54:02 AM (No. 8908673)
To be honest I thought the media would also declare 0bama the winner because that's what they've been doing his whole term, regardless of any evidence to the contrary. I'm still shocked and cautious at the left medias reaction to 0bama's predictable performance last night.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
fireman28, 10/4/2012 5:55:23 AM (No. 8908677)
I'm sure our Sarah undestood the debate quite well, no matter what OP thinks.
As my wife said, "If Obummer had won, the whole first hour of little Georgie on GMA would have been about it."
They gave Mitt about 4 minutes. And Chrissy Mathews meltdown is precious. LOL
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Cannon, 10/4/2012 5:57:09 AM (No. 8908682)
I'm a Sarah Palin fan but I think she got this one wrong. Comments from, of all people, Maddow, Matthews, Carville, and Maher bear that out.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
jeffreyabigail, 10/4/2012 6:00:34 AM (No. 8908690)
Go away. Please. The term "lamestream media" if for talk show hosts, not for a former governor and VP candidate. Grow up. Or get a talk show.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
MisterDickens, 10/4/2012 6:01:46 AM (No. 8908693)
"See, see!" cried the Wimple. "We're not biased toward obama".
Maybe this morning after their boy was found on the battlefield with his arms, legs and head cut off.
But... you just wait a day or two. All the king's horses and all the king's men WILL put Humpty Dumpty together again.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
oriton, 10/4/2012 6:02:21 AM (No. 8908696)
That was my assumption as well. However, it was hard to see how they could declare obama the winner and get away with it this time. Romney was great! Palin is very conservative and she's still skeptical about President Romney and might have a good reason for that. We shall see, but Romney any given day over obit.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
fireman28, 10/4/2012 6:03:30 AM (No. 8908700)
Before you post, note that Palin talked to Cavuto. His show comes on at 4 pm. She made the commend hours before the debate.
And yes, the LSM is giving the win to Romney, but read the usual snarky paragraphs.
Now the hope Obummer will come back and do better.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
JAN, 10/4/2012 6:04:03 AM (No. 8908704)
Sarah, wake up and smell the coffee.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
hoosiergirl71, 10/4/2012 6:05:37 AM (No. 8908715)
She can be given some slack for this opinion, as we all expected lies and spin in Obama's favor. That it didn't happen is a clear indication of just how soundly Romney cleaned his clock!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
chillijilli, 10/4/2012 6:10:42 AM (No. 8908729)
She should be pointing out that the MEDIA is responsible for Obama's poor performance. Since they chose to coddle him for the past 4 yrs, Obama has no experience answering questions or deflecting challenges. Gotta love it---Obama done in by the adoring sycophants!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
bobgray2, 10/4/2012 6:12:26 AM (No. 8908737)
Give the media a day or two for the shock to wear off and for them to get their marching orders from the 0bama camp. I figure by the weekend, they will have figured out a way of making 0bama seem like the winner.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Judith, 10/4/2012 6:14:47 AM (No. 8908740)
Listening to talk radio (what's left of it, anyway)up here in MA, I'm amazed at how many people are now calling in saying "Sarah was right". And then enumerating the MANY times Gov. Palin was correct, if shocking, in what she said. The entire country thought that no matter what happened last night, it would be spun to a great obama victory. Because that is ALL that we have had since the great (sarcasm)speech of 2004. I think one of two things will happen. Something really nasty will emerge from Chicago, and/or in the days to come, the chris matthews of this world will re-write history. I'm pretty sure, poster, that Gov. Palin did understand what was said last night and what happened. She is a pretty smart woman.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Susannah, 10/4/2012 6:15:59 AM (No. 8908746)
The kindest thing the Boston Globe could say about Obama this morning was that he was "cautious." One of their columnists said it was a knockout for Romney; another said that "an ineffective Obama falls flat."
Palin appears to be trying to minimize anything Romney does. That kind of petty spitefulness is unbecoming, to say the least.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Robinsolana, 10/4/2012 6:17:06 AM (No. 8908751)
Sarah Palin makes a mistake. And the 'lamestream' media has their headline for the day. Sarah is still living inside their heads rent free.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
spincut, 10/4/2012 6:19:40 AM (No. 8908754)
Proving once again that Sarah Palin makes liberal's heads explode, not matter how long she's been NOT RUNNING FOR ANYTHING. It's a wondrous thing, and I hope if somehow Romney beats the mainstream media and becomes president, he'll appoint her to something very high profile so the MSM will stay distracted. And crazy.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Brittany, 10/4/2012 6:20:13 AM (No. 8908757)
Believe it or not, McClatchy newpapers did not declare Romney the winner at least for the first paragraphs. I didn't read beyond that. Loved the fact that Lehrer let the candidates really talk. Liberals unhappy that he didn't ask loaded questions? Liberal caller on C-Span: But they didn't talk about social issues such as (you fill in the dots). No, you dummy, it was on the economy. All logic lost on left.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
StormCnter, 10/4/2012 6:20:19 AM (No. 8908758)
"In a chat with Neil Cavuto of Fox Business Network, Sarah Palin issues a prediction right after last night’s debate."
It appears, #7, that you are mistaken about Palin's timing.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
adguy47, 10/4/2012 6:26:17 AM (No. 8908776)
Considering all the damage Palin has done to the Republican party, I wish she'd please shut up and go off to cheer Bristol on "Dancing with the Stars" or Todd on whatever reality show he is on these days. Every time she opens her mouth on TV, any independents who are watching are reminded she and Romney are from the same party, and he loses votes. I disagree with the poster who said s/he wishes Romney would appoint her to some position when he wins. So far Romney has handled this "maverick" perfectly, avoiding her like the plague.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
iamtinman, 10/4/2012 6:28:40 AM (No. 8908781)
Erik, Erik! Have you forgotten what rhetoric is? What Sarah meant was that the left will reflexively declare the president the winner even though she doesn't. Judging from what I have seen so far she is correct. It's early times so that may change as the media absorbs the fallout.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
thenightowl, 10/4/2012 6:29:26 AM (No. 8908785)
Sarah Palin is apparently living rent free in some republican heads too. Some comments here prove it.
The truth is that the msm spin hasn't had a chance to get its talking points together--yet. They will. Orchestrated news takes time.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
leesum, 10/4/2012 6:30:18 AM (No. 8908787)
Well there go the Shara haters again. Maybe she did not get this right, but the fact checking the Washington Post lists all the liberal media that proclaimed Romney the winner. Even in error she succeeds.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
joew9, 10/4/2012 6:30:48 AM (No. 8908789)
Give the MSM time people! Romney slam dunked Obama so badly that MSM can't help but say Romney was the winner. However, in a few days someone in the media will come up with a twisted logic that Obama didn't do that bad. A few days later it will be expanded. A few push polls later and they will even be declaring Obama the winner of this debate. Just give them some time.
Here, I'll give it a start.
"You know, Romney won but he used such aggressive tactics that he turned off many of the voters. Our polls have shown that a majority of the people don't like Romney's aggressive approach. Obama's inability to debate well is a net plus for him because people like his compassion. Romney may have initially been pronounced the winner but you know Obama is the one who gained the most from that debate because people have decided that this is the kind of leader they want. What a disaster that debate has turned out to be for Romney."
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
tren9, 10/4/2012 6:32:05 AM (No. 8908795)
Palin did a seven-minute chat with Cavuto and it was very substantive. The little puff about the lamestream media took 5 seconds and is still arguably true. This whole WaPo idiot article missed that as well as a few posters here. So her comment was a bit overstated. So what. I'll translate for the not-so-brite. The media is still in the tank for Zero. Does anyone argue with that?
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Teleologicus, 10/4/2012 6:32:42 AM (No. 8908799)
Our rejoicing should not cause us to let down our guard, for all that the debate was like an exploding cigar for the media. They haven't had time to get their stories straight. They are not going to take this lying down. They will be back - like the monsters in horror movies that arise again and attack after they are thought to have been killed.
The story -narrative, if one prefers- has yet to be constructed to explain what happened last night. Leftists are still wiping the remains of the cigar off their faces, Their ears are still ringing. They remain dazed, disoriented, not quite sure what happened to them. This won't last long. They will be back, and with a vengeance.
But how? What line of attack to take now? It certainly seems that their Icarus has fallen to earth, blasted out of the sky by a combination of his own hubris and Mitt Romney's obviously superior intellect.
It will be interesting to see how they try to wriggle out of this predicament. The stock responses of racism and class warfare will be difficult to use here. Blaming the moderator can only carry the load so far. Perhaps it was an aberration, a momentary lapse due to fatigue from overwork?
The ante has been logarithmically raised for the next debate. One can be confident Leftist heads are huddled, emails and phone lines are buzzing, emergency meetings are being scheduled to develop and implement plan B.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Pluperfect, 10/4/2012 6:34:28 AM (No. 8908807)
Why can't she bring herself to praise Romney? She has yet to fully endorse him and for some apparently selfish reason, is reserving her option to snipe at him.
No, President Romney will have no need of any service the former demi-gov might offer.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Malia2012, 10/4/2012 6:44:35 AM (No. 8908830)
I wish everyone on OUR side, including Sarah Palin would STOP talking about obama and concentrate on what Mitt Romney is doing. I agree with #4, #8, and #25. IMO, who CARES what the demonrats OR the "media" is going to do to exact revenge against Mitt Romney? He can take care of himself. Enough with the wringing of hands and whining about "unfairness" of the "media". Let them bring it on!
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
rael, 10/4/2012 6:52:11 AM (No. 8908852)
Apparently the post hasn't seen this morning's news.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
BoeufRiver, 10/4/2012 6:54:55 AM (No. 8908861)
Why, oh why, do so many give Sarah so little credit? How can the lying propagandists prop up o's dismal performance after Sarah predicts they will? Sarah lives in their heads and they would say anything rather than allow Sarah to be right in any way; even so far as not burnishing o's dunking in the manure pile.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Italiano, 10/4/2012 6:58:14 AM (No. 8908873)
Face it, Obama could have walked to the podium, sang "Basketball Jones," lit a cigarette and left, and certain elements would have declared him the winner. The only complaint you're going to hear will be Mitt's lack of "specifics," from the same clowns who were satisfied with specifics like Hope and Change and Yes We Can in 2008.
It was a bigger blowout than Reagan in 1980.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
lakerman1, 10/4/2012 6:58:18 AM (No. 8908874)
I watched Barack's traveling press secretary, a young woman who appeared to be dressed for halloween, and she said that the U.S. doesn't need an attack dog as president. I have no idea what the basis of her comment was. And I also saw the rev.al last night as he tried to come up with any positive for obama, and the rev said that because romney was so specific, joe biden would use that against ryan. (the rev apparently was talking about income tax policy.) Old Joe will be completely confused by the numbers if he tries to attack ryan on income tax policy.)
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
killerbee, 10/4/2012 6:59:23 AM (No. 8908879)
By the end of the week the dishonest "fact checks" will have turned the outcome of the debate into an Obama "win". Palin is correct.
Wemple is just pouting because she called him on it before it could really get going.
OP, Palin knows the media's MO. Personal feelings aside, she's nailed this one.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
King of all trolls, 10/4/2012 7:00:33 AM (No. 8908882)
Has Palin even endorsed Romney?
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
ZurichMike, 10/4/2012 7:05:15 AM (No. 8908898)
Well, if you believe the polls, about 40% of those watching thought Obama won. Huh?
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
starboard, 10/4/2012 7:07:14 AM (No. 8908910)
Sarah was on Hannity last night and was very complimentary of Mitt and the debate.
#26 I agree. We should stop listening to the other side. Instead we should be shouting from the rooftops that our guy is the clear winner and the leader this country needs. We need to be louder and drown out the rats on the other side.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
gator, 10/4/2012 7:13:24 AM (No. 8908933)
Go back to sleep 8, the coffee won’t help you. Sarah said what we all know to be true. If it had not been such a disaster for 0, the media would have certainly done exactly what she said they would do. However, since the clock cleaning was so completely thorough, it will take the media a few days to convince Americans they didn’t really see what they saw.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
Feebie, 10/4/2012 7:16:34 AM (No. 8908944)
It's not clear to me that the OP really "understands it".
I figured everyone would call it for Obama too. Conditioning? It was a safe assumption - especially if asked to comment right after the debate.
I was shocked to find out LATER that they were actually declaring this one an Obama victory.
Jeesh. Some people just LOOOVVEE attacking way Palin too much.....It's, uh, kinda weird.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
FlatCityGirl, 10/4/2012 7:17:50 AM (No. 8908954)
The past is always a predictor of the future. Why wouldn't she predict that the LSM would declare 0b@$tard the winner? The problem was, 0bit was soooooooooo very bad, the LSM couldn't declare him the winner without totally giving away the farm.
The LSM is up on their hind legs, declaring there is no bias. If they had declared 0bit the winner, every knee-pad JournoLister would have had to concede bias.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
losgatos, 10/4/2012 7:21:31 AM (No. 8908972)
Had Obama been only slightly less stunningly awful the media would have declared him the winner. As it was they could only make excuses for him.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
JimS, 10/4/2012 7:22:45 AM (No. 8908978)
OP... Did it ever occur to you that Sarah was the smartest one on this? By her prediction that the media would, unfairly and with great bias, declare Obama to be the winner of the debate, she virtually assured that they would not--that they would call it right. I am convinced that the media's pride would not let them follow Sarah's prediction, and they would call the debate right if just to spite Sarah.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
bobgray2, 10/4/2012 7:32:53 AM (No. 8909022)
Sarah did an interview with Hannity after the debate and was very exuberant with her praise of Romney's performance. I think within the next couple of days, she will be proven correct (yet again) in her prediction of the dem spin machines attempt to turn a Romney win into 0bama's. Note, she didn't say they would succeed, but that they would try.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
coyote56, 10/4/2012 7:35:30 AM (No. 8909034)
#4 & #13 you are the snarky ones. You can always tell a Palin article by the number of posts like the 60,000 who lined up to see her during the 2008 election. Some are correct - just wait until the "lamestream" begins throwing roses in a few days to their annointed one. Later in the evening Palin gave a very good report on Romney - she loves our Republic & still sounds like a typical American patriot.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
LadyVet, 10/4/2012 7:38:16 AM (No. 8909043)
Agree that her remarks were a challenge to the likes of Georgie Boy.
Re #26, Why can't she bring herself to praise Romney? She has yet to fully endorse him...
Maybe it's because he sounded like a big government Republican while he was beating Obama up last night.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
philemon1967, 10/4/2012 7:38:58 AM (No. 8909047)
While I do not fully agree with Sarah Palin that the media will declare Obama winner, I understand why she says it.
You must understand that at this point, Sarah is NOT seeking the presidency but is trying to be a good wingman in the service of the republicans. What she is doing is to highlight the biasness of the media ahead of time before it actually occurs.
The fact that people like Matthews and Maher sound doleful, does not mean that they will not eventually somehow try to spin this as an Obama winner after the second debate if Obama does better. I think they have to sound a little negative at this point because Obama came across really badly compared to Romney last night and if they were to try to spin it this early after the debate, people would still remember and would correctly view them as sycophants. The leftist media is going to wait until this debate goes into the memory hole and then the spin will begin.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
bigken2, 10/4/2012 7:43:26 AM (No. 8909058)
sara was right if there had been any way they would have said 0 was the winner they would have but this was so bad they were in shock the empty chair showed up if obumer doesnot turn this around fast they will turn on him like jacles
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
Teleologicus, 10/4/2012 8:00:28 AM (No. 8909119)
Al Gore has made the first stab at explaining what happened last night. It seems that Obama was a victim of altitude sickness. This supports the widely held theory that Gore is insane, perhaps because he lost the presidency to GWB of all people.
Altitude sickness. Not enough oxygen to the brain. Sure. That explains everything.
I am waiting to see who will be the first to play the race card on last night's Obama debacle. It's bound to come. Rich white bully beats up struggling black intellectual and social activist? Too crude. What, then?
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
TrueBlueWfan, 10/4/2012 8:05:09 AM (No. 8909130)
I saw Palin on Hannity late last night and she was extremely happy with Romney and praised him. She was simply saying she thought the msm would do what they have always done - protect their boy - and some have tried. It is just that this train wreck was too big and too live on TV even for them to try to cover up.
I also heard her tell Hannity that she thinks Chicago will strike back. Of that, I'm sure. I will not be surprised if some kind of invented emergency arises that takes all this off the front page or maybe takes the next debate off the front page.
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw, 10/4/2012 8:09:30 AM (No. 8909138)
I see this WP story as proof she is correct. Why does the WP feel this is aven news? Because it changes the subject so they don't have to lie about the debate in this space.
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
msjena, 10/4/2012 8:20:59 AM (No. 8909164)
Good golly, the haters like to find a cloud in every silver lining, don't they. Sarah is absolutely right about the media. They declared Sloppy Joe Biden the winner after she wiped the floor with him. The difference here is that expectations were never that high for Joe. But this debate exposed O for the lightweight he is. Even his media supporters couldn't deny it.
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
Persecutor2, 10/4/2012 8:42:10 AM (No. 8909225)
Well, I think Wemple made a correct statement--she may need to re-calibrate a little--but just a little! Lehrer is already catching flak from the lames for the way he moderated. And they rea already making excuses for 0--he pulled his punches, Romney played fast and loose with the facts, blah, blah, blah. Sarah was right in kind, just not in degree--and even that might change in a couple of days, as others have suggested.BTW, I do agree with a prior poster--Palin should ditch phrases like "lamestream media", it isn't becoming to someone in her position...
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Obama: ´If Catholics Have Their Schools and Buildings and Protestants Have Theirs ... That Encourages Division´
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Cybercast News Service, by Terence P. Jeffrey
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Posted By: JoniTx- 6/19/2013 3:46:48 PM
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Likening religious schools to segregation--a racist system that forced blacks to attend different schools and use different facilities than whites in the American South--President Barack Obama told a town hall meeting for youth in Belfast, Northern Ireland on Monday that there should not be Catholic and Protestant schools because such schools cause division. "Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of jobs and opportunity--symbols of history that are a source of pride for some and pain for others--these are not tangential to peace; they’re essential to it,"
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G8: Barack Obama looks like a president going through the motions
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Telegraph [UK], by Alex Spillius
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Posted By: JoniTx- 6/19/2013 4:58:06 AM
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Listening to Barack Obama give his speech in Belfast on Monday, it was hard not to stifle a yawn. I kept waiting for the part when he would say something interesting, but, about three quarters of the way through, realised it wasn’t going to come. Judging from television pictures some of his young audience felt the same, after the initial rush of euphoria of receiving the rock star president in their midst had passed. This is not surprising, for we had already heard this number about the inspirational role of the Northern Ireland peace process and the Emerald Isle’s
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Obama: You Can´t Fathom ´Complexities´ of Syria Policy ´If You Haven´t Been in Situation Room´
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Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper
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Posted By: Desert Fox- 6/18/2013 5:30:04 PM
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Charlie Rose last night asked President Obama his new Syria policy. The president first objected to it being called a new policy. "I´m not sure you can characterize this as a new policy. This is consistent with the policy that I´ve had throughout," he said. Obama then explained the goal is regional stability, and especially in Syria. "Really, what we´re trying to do is take sides against extremists of all sorts and in favor of people who are in favor of moderation, tolerance, representative government, and over the long-term, stability and prosperity for the people of Syria," said Obama.
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The IRS Immigration Fraud Scandal
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American Spectator, by Jeffrey Lord
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Posted By: KarenJ1- 6/18/2013 10:37:24 AM
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Marco Rubio. Paul Ryan. The IRS. Illegal immigration. And fraud to the tune of billions.. Now there’s a combustible mix. Let’s start with the IRS, illegal immigration and fraud. We’ll come back in a minute to Senator Rubio and Congressman Ryan. For those who came in late, a year before the IRS scandals burst onto the scene in early May of 2013, an alert investigative reporter for WTHR-Indianapolis (Channel 13), Bob Segall by name, produced a stunning piece of journalism. Segall’s video report is found here and we will quote from his story for the basics.
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