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Warren calls for ‘full-blown
conversation about reparations’

Politico, by Alex Thompson

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 3/18/2019 11:48:33 PM

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) gave her most detailed answer to date on the question of reparations for black Americans as a means of addressing centuries of slavery and legal discrimination. In a CNN town hall on Monday night in Jackson, Miss., Warren became the first 2020 presidential candidate serving in the Senate to endorse a House bill that would create a commission to study reparation proposals. “I love the idea of this congressional commission,” she said at Jackson State, a historically black university. “I believe it’s time to start the national, full-blown conversation about reparations.” The bill

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Any nutty idea is on the front burner for Lizzie. How about a refund on the abysmal ´Great Society´ programs?

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: MDConservative, 3/18/2019 11:58:17 PM     (No. 11935049)

These conversations should begin with full-blown negotiations with the British, Spanish and a few African governments. They can pay for establishing and profiting from the North American slavery business. Then we can have the "full-blown" conversation about how much my family is due from these funds for their service in the Union army to emancipate.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: leonardo, 3/19/2019 12:01:52 AM     (No. 11935051)

Since Democrats have a monopoly on collective guilt, it should be simple enough for EACH of them to open their checkbook and write a large check for reparations.
Rest assured that 1 or 2 checks will NOT be enough.
Many, many Americans are immigrants and had ZERO connection to any slavery and as such need no "´conversation." Also, any present-day slaveholders in America should consider reparations. And put a few bucks aside and send them to the Fund-Me website for the Mass Senator´s psychiatric expenses.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Ben Around, 3/19/2019 12:03:41 AM     (No. 11935053)


Just what we need is another government commission to generate more hot air to contribute to climate change.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: panther361, 3/19/2019 12:06:42 AM     (No. 11935055)

I´m beggining to tire of people such as this. She is about as original as a steel beer can. Come on lady, if we must bear your inane dialogue at least have an idea already.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 3/19/2019 12:07:40 AM     (No. 11935057)

Reparations? Over 600,000 died in the Civil War. Paid in Full.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Curious1, 3/19/2019 12:08:44 AM     (No. 11935058)

Gues the colege professor never heard of Liberia or the civilmmwar. Or welfare. Or affirmative action. More than enough has been paid. It´s time to stop.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: droopydog, 3/19/2019 12:37:51 AM     (No. 11935065)

I pay severe reparations every April 15th and all it has done is re-enslave generations Americans. Now I feel a combination of guilt and anger.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Amereagle-redux, 3/19/2019 12:44:03 AM     (No. 11935066)

My great great great grandfather — a Union soldier — was gravely injured and held at Andersonville Prison Camp by the Confederacy.

Does my family get a “credit” for the blood and treasure it took to end slavery?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Pchristopher, 3/19/2019 1:06:01 AM     (No. 11935069)

Allow me to translate for those not up on their DCSpeak: A ´National Conversation on Reparations´ translates to ´Let´s Talk About How We Can Further Criminalize White People Who Have More Than 2 Cents in Their Pockets´....and mind you, this is coming from the whitest white woman there is.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 3/19/2019 1:52:00 AM     (No. 11935078)

Very good point, # 9. When leftists talk about "conversation" or "dialogue" what they really mean is "Give us, your self-appointed moral superiors, a foot in the door to lecture and browbeat you into submission!"


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Reply 11 - Posted by: zeldafitzg, 3/19/2019 2:07:48 AM     (No. 11935080)

They are asserting one more time their belief that blacks can´t compete on a level playing field.

I didn´t have anyone fighting for the North, but if I had, I would be furious over this. (Just color my family Confederate. And yes, we did have some slave holders---just read my 6th great grandfather´s will tonight that passed slaves, specific by name, to his heirs. And of course it *named* his heirs, which was what I was after anyway.) Slavery was unfortunate to all those it touched, both slaves and masters. The Irish were being starved by the English; in the 18th century they might have jumped at the opportunity to work as free laborers in America. But I digress.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: spoonfulofsugar, 3/19/2019 2:26:19 AM     (No. 11935085)

I think those of us who sent our kids to college should demand reparations from colleges. After all the have alumni with money let´s take it from them and share it.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Pepper Tree, 3/19/2019 2:27:05 AM     (No. 11935086)

When is some ambitious network airhead holding a microphone going to ask the blonde bullfrog if.she is trying to out-pander Beeto the fake Mexican?
Yeah, I know, but wouldn’t it be fun to watch Lizzy have a Nancy Pelosi moment?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: spoonfulofsugar, 3/19/2019 2:29:49 AM     (No. 11935087)

Before the civil war only dems owned slaves. Who should pay for reparations? I guess the dems and those blacks who owned them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blJKdNr5VSU

3000 blacks owned 12,000 slaves "So what do the actual numbers of black slave owners and their slaves tell us? In 1830, the year most carefully studied by Carter G. Woodson, about 13.7 percent (319,599) of the black population was free. Of these, 3,776 free Negroes owned 12,907 slaves, out of a total of 2,009,043 slaves owned in the entire United States, so the numbers of slaves owned by black people"

https://www.theroot.com/did-black-people-own-slaves-1790895436


Kamala Harris´ family were slave owners in Jamaica.

https://medium.com/@politicspeach/kamala-harris-jamaican-family-were-slave-owners-her-policies-as-ag-were-no-different-neverkamala-55eb89beef72

Look it up.


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Reply 15 - Posted by: trapper, 3/19/2019 2:30:18 AM     (No. 11935088)

How about Warren be forced to pay reparations to everyone she stepped in front of in school and job applications by falsely claiming to be American Indian and entitled to special consideration?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: JediJerry, 3/19/2019 2:51:26 AM     (No. 11935094)

Slavery was a legal global business until it was ended by the civil war. Thanks Abe. So why pay reparations for something that wasn’t illegal. How about giving everyone reparations for wasting tax dollars.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Dirtyjersey, 3/19/2019 4:31:05 AM     (No. 11935127)

I agree, Spain and Portugal need to pay up. Oh wait, that’s not what you meant? /sarc

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Reply 18 - Posted by: strike3, 3/19/2019 5:24:31 AM     (No. 11935140)

What percent Black is Lizzie again? Surely she wants to include herself in the receiving end of reparations. Also, if a generation of Blacks is going to receive a check but have never seen a slave, how far into the future are we expected to pay, Stardate 3050 or some such, or is this a perpetual democrat program like affirmative action? She needs to explain herself a little better before I vote for her.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 3/19/2019 6:24:02 AM     (No. 11935161)

Will fake Indians get reparations, too?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: M2, 3/19/2019 6:25:11 AM     (No. 11935164)

We have been giving black people reparations for 50 years. We have given them preferred status in college entrance, loans, business positions, employment, and housing. With few exceptions, it hasn’t helped them improve their status as a group. So why do more of what doesn’t work?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: chance_232, 3/19/2019 6:26:08 AM     (No. 11935165)

NO..... just no. Full stop, end of "conversation".

There is nothing further to discuss.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: janjan, 3/19/2019 7:12:09 AM     (No. 11935190)

This is campaign pandering and there will never be a serious attempt to pay anybody reparations. The logistics of trying to require proof of entitlement would be impossible. The real point here is that in order to survive as a party Democrats have no choice but to offer free stuff paid for by others.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: franq, 3/19/2019 7:29:29 AM     (No. 11935211)

Love Kurt Schlicter´s definition. Paraphrasing. Reparations are "...the notion that people who never owned slaves owe money to people who never were slaves..."

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Reply 24 - Posted by: HistoryBuff, 3/19/2019 7:32:36 AM     (No. 11935219)

Why go after the descendants of the people who bought your ancestors, and not go after the descendants of the people who sold them?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Sunhan65, 3/19/2019 8:03:31 AM     (No. 11935269)

Sorry, when I saw the headline, I thought this article was about how Kamala Harris was appointed by Willie Brown.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Cartcart, 3/19/2019 8:15:48 AM     (No. 11935289)

For a good beginning, let her bring forth ten slaves and then let’s find ten slave owners to make them pay. If there are none, the argument is over.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Watlines, 3/19/2019 8:32:49 AM     (No. 11935309)

There´s not one Democrat presidential contender, or wannabe, that inspires confidence.

I´m not sure how any of them can top Warren´s vacuous reparations scheme, but some are is trying.

They would be the green new dealers who could destroy America if we let them try.

Let´s not, please. Adults need to run our country.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: jacksin5, 3/19/2019 10:40:16 AM     (No. 11935475)

The Dems love to trumpet that we are a "Nation of Immigrants" so, exactly who are you planning to bill for this?

My Grandparent emigrated from England at the turn of the 20th century, so I´m out.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Virtudawg, 3/19/2019 11:22:01 AM     (No. 11935534)

Here´s my thinking about reparations:

(1) The Civil War, 14th Amendment, Reconstruction, the massive "Great Society" social welfare program, etc. have already paid for slavery. There is not a single person alive today from that era that would legitimately be eligible for reparations.

(2) However, we have the Jim Crow era, which was perpetuated by DEMOCRATS, with their military arm, the Ku Klux Klan. And, there are many people still alive who were negatively impacted by this racist set of policies by DEMOCRATS.

(3) Therefore, I think that the DEMOCRATIC Party should pay reparations to any person affected -- and still alive -- by the Jim Crow laws of the South. This to me seems a reasonable case for reparations.

(4) Ball´s in your court, Dims.


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Reply 30 - Posted by: dvc, 3/19/2019 1:35:25 PM     (No. 11935724)

No, is the only answer.

There are NO people alive who have any first hand knowledge of this, and any claims otherwise are lies.

All of us have had some problems in our past generations, and we are what we are by our own efforts and often with help of our parent´s efforts.

The last slave would have had to been born in 1863 or so (and would never have any memory of being a slave) and would have died at least half a century ago. Almost all actual adult slaves would have died at least a century ago. Likely the closest relations out there are great-grand parents, most will be more distant. Few people ever meet any great grandparents.

For comparison, the last Civil War veteran, a 106 year old who served as a drummer boy, died 63 years ago. This is the most extreme case.

Give this BS a rest.

But then, I am using facts and logic....which are inapplicable to a lot of folks, they cannot grasp either.

Gimmme, gimme, gimme. Any excuse.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: rochow, 3/19/2019 2:25:53 PM     (No. 11935799)

Warren, remember Johnson? He signed in the great society program.... enough already! Why don´t you ask the African families why they sold their kin??? Or the Portuguese who discovered a lucrative ´business´?? It was greed for the bead that did the deed!
Warren, just go away, you aging AOC!

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Reply 32 - Posted by: saguni, 3/19/2019 4:30:01 PM     (No. 11935955)

I am sick and tired of the "George Orwell´s 1984" misuse of language. From the etymology (history of a word) dictionary, reparations means:

An "act of repairing or mending" is attested from c. 1400. Reparations "compensation for war damaged owed by the aggressor".

No "American" nor even colonist ever sailed to Africa and captured a single slave. A few...some indicate that less than 10% of southerners owned even one slave...made the legal purchase of "merchandise" offered at auction. There was a global market, and the terms of trade with Great Briton (which at the time "ruled" over the colonies) practically required the use of slave labor to meet production contracts.

This country began the abolitionist movement, and as posted above many Americans died to free the slaves during the Civil War. More people have immigrated into the country after the Civil War than were living here before then.

Another thing you don´t see mentioned is that from 1865 to 1960, every town of any size had a segregated thriving black middle/upper class, with merchants, doctors and lawyers. In that time:

Fewer black than white couples had their first child within a year of marriage.
More black than white families attended church together throughout their lives.
Fewer black than white students dropped out of school before graduating.
Fewer black than white marriages ended in divorce.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 3/20/2019 2:16:13 AM     (No. 11936347)

My ancestors fought to free the slaves. Their descendants owe me. Where do I collect my check?

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Faithfully, 3/20/2019 10:10:35 AM     (No. 11936696)

Again, another distraction to play out the clock until the next election.

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